r/fuckcars / Not Just Bikes / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design

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BulkForceFive said:
Imagine how hard it must be for her to dig the bike seat out of her ass after every ride. That shit is INSIDE her.
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Son, we have engineered horrors beyond your comprehension.

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Amerisharts are the fattest people the world has ever seen and we have the engineering and scientific know how to go even fatter.
 
Lemon-Lime Turpentine said:
Inspired this:
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That's basically the line of thinking eco-terrorists use, that whatever damage caused is okay because it contributes to the greater good of the planet, or whatever.

Destroying a Section 8 apartment complex would make me a terrorist and murderer. If I didn't have a conscience about destruction of life and property, I could just as easily convince myself that this would be a net good for society.

I get the feeling that most of these urbanists are "ends justify the means" types.
 
Xarpho's Return said:
If I didn't have a conscience about destruction of life and property, I could just as easily convince myself that this would be a net good for society.
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Once you believe the "carbon dioxide is pollution" bullshit any death is a net gain for the world. It's literally batshit.

They should unironically suck-start a 1950s Buick and reduce the total carbon footprint.
 
Meriasek said:
Obviously, if you cycle you will live in perfect fitness up to a much higher age. Look at the Netherlands (tm) where all the old people cycle, which is good because they're fit and healthy and we'll ignore how Jason explains the Netherland accident statistics with that.
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before but Jason has literally made exactly that argument and used his own carbrained father as an example.

 
Jason comments on an article about a Dutch woman who moved to Dallas, Texas:
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What do you miss about the Netherlands?​

“Apart from my friends and family, of course, but also the distances. Everything here is big and quite far away. I just miss being able to jump on my bike and go somewhere. Here you have to do everything by car. Everything in the Netherlands is really very small, you don’t really notice that when you live there yourself.”
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Now, judging by that excerpt, you’d assume that she hates the US and is homesick. Well, you’d be wrong:

What is the biggest difference between America and the Netherlands?​

"I do a lot, but I still feel much less busy here than in the Netherlands. I think that's because people here are much more concerned with what's happening now and not with what's yet to come. But it could also be because the days start very early here, so you can get the most out of your day.

It's very hot here, about 35 degrees, so people here get up around 4:30 in the morning, because it's not that warm yet. Life starts very early here. For example, my children have to be at school at 7 o'clock.

I think the Netherlands is a real consensus country, because everything is focused on the long term and we want to discuss a lot and plan everything. In America, it's much more about the now. People like to talk about their successes here, but that also promotes being the best version of yourself. I think that's a very positive attitude. And when I think here that I want to go out for dinner with a friend in the evening, the answer is almost always 'yes', because there is not so much planning. That really gives a feeling of freedom and I think that is the biggest difference with the Netherlands."
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What is life in America like for your children?​

“My children were only 4 and 5 years old when we came here. And in their young lives, they have already traveled a lot and have been to America many times. So when we came here, nothing was unfamiliar to them. There was also no language barrier, because English is their native language. In the Netherlands, we always spoke English at home and they went to an English primary school. They also learn Dutch from me and Arabic from my husband. We are raising them multilingually.

My son and daughter actually like it here. The classes are a lot smaller here than in the Netherlands, with about fifteen children. As a result, they get a lot more attention from their teacher and they like that. People often say that it takes about six months for small children to realize that something has changed, but for them it happened very quickly, fortunately.”
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Of course, Jason didn’t notice her positive comments, but since he got both the city she moved to and her gender wrong, he probably didn’t even read the article.
 
Well its rather sweet story all and all with naturally her getting used to the fact the state she moved to absolutely dwarfing Netherlands but in the end enjoying how Americans will just go for things in the now rather than think "how will this effect us in a week, month, year, etc.....". Always love when Euros can truly grasp how massive America is and perhaps why the car became dominant as opposed to public transit, especially passenger rail.
 
Kyria the Great said:
Always love when Euros can truly grasp how massive America is
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I think her original comment was meant to reflect that- as in her not being aware how big everything is in America (in day-to-day situations, not while being a tourist) and not being angry at that fact. Jason, in his typical manipulative manner, was trying to spin it to hurr murika big and LE BAD instead of treating it as a neutral comment on how your typical everyday experiences may vary between countries.
 
Apple Porcupine said:
I'm not sure if this has been brought up before but Jason has literally made exactly that argument and used his own carbrained father as an example.
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He's pretty vague about the nature of what this leg surgery was for. Would exercise necessarily prevented it? Was it caused by over use like working construction? I think he's being obtuse for this reason. Also exercise bikes have settings where you can put them on the lowest setting so they have almost no resistance designed for seniors. Perhaps that's why he has to use it instead of being able to ride a bike in the park like other seniors do.
 
The Jewel of the Nile said:
I think her original comment was meant to reflect that- as in her not being aware how big everything is in America (in day-to-day situations, not while being a tourist) and not being angry at that fact. Jason, in his typical manipulative manner, was trying to spin it to hurr murika big and LE BAD instead of treating it as a neutral comment on how your typical everyday experiences may vary between countries.
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Noting that something is big or small is not necessarily a bad thing. A "small grocery store" could refer to something like Trader Joe's or some other yuppie urban outlet, or one of those backwoods grocery stores found in tiny towns. One of them would be embraced by an urbanist with open arms, one of them is clearly signs of a backwards people.
 
Xarpho's Return said:
One of them would be embraced by an urbanist with open arms, one of them is clearly signs of a backwards people.
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What's interesting is that for both foreigners and rural rednecks is that the smaller grocery store is not a Trader Joe's style urban "vee know vat you vant and you vill buy it" type place, but in fact is much more like a minature Walmart, with one item of each category.

In fact, the rural stores I know are often mostly literally Walmart resellers - they make the multi-hundred mile trip into town weekly and stock up at Walmart, and resell in their store for somewhat more. Sure, you won't get a selection of fifty types of pasta and sauce, but you'll have a red sauce and spaghetti noodles, some wire, and some cat food. More than enough to tide you over until your monthly trip in.
 
Xarpho's Return said:
Noting that something is big or small is not necessarily a bad thing. A "small grocery store" could refer to something like Trader Joe's or some other yuppie urban outlet, or one of those backwoods grocery stores found in tiny towns. One of them would be embraced by an urbanist with open arms, one of them is clearly signs of a backwards people.
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Some of those tiny town grocery stores have wonderful cheese selections.
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With apologies to Baker, CA.
 
Maybe call this a random deep thought, but I've been thinking about their rational behind why they believe urbanism will make them happy and solve their problems. I think this has to do with them seeing the Netherlands and Europe by extension as exotic. To them they're already unhappy back home maybe because of the state of their lives, having no prospects being young and not being able to afford anything. If you feel unhappy you start to just look around you. And the most common thing people see in their day to day lives are cars. So that mentally gets attributed to their grievances with the modern world. Which is probably what happened to Jason while working at ATI being stuck in traffic for most of his adult life feeling like he's been robbed.

To some degree you could say we spend a portion of our lives stuck in traffic, but then we also spend it standing in line or sitting on the toilet as well. Truly I do think that if these some of guys moved to somewhere they're forced to bike or take the train and the novelty of riding a bike becomes mundane again they'll start to attribute their frustrations to these things instead. "I hate the train, I spend a quarter of my life stuck around people who smell bad and barely get anywhere because there's always a delay".
 
Yamamura said:
Maybe call this a random deep thought, but I've been thinking about their rational behind why they believe urbanism will make them happy and solve their problems. I think this has to do with them seeing the Netherlands and Europe by extension as exotic. To them they're already unhappy back home maybe because of the state of their lives, having no prospects being young and not being able to afford anything. If you feel unhappy you start to just look around you. And the most common thing people see in their day to day lives are cars. So that mentally gets attributed to their grievances with the modern world. Which is probably what happened to Jason while working at ATI being stuck in traffic for most of his adult life feeling like he's been robbed.

To some degree you could say we spend a portion of our lives stuck in traffic, but then we also spend it standing in line or sitting on the toilet as well. Truly I do think that if these some of guys moved to somewhere they're forced to bike or take the train and the novelty of riding a bike becomes mundane again they'll start to attribute their frustrations to these things instead. "I hate the train, I spend a quarter of my life stuck around people who smell bad and barely get anywhere because there's always a delay".
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Another person has stated a possible reason that they never outgrew their college years, when most of what they needed was within walking distance away.
 
Markass the Worst said:
r/fuckcars constantly push this narrative that the world will laugh at America's cars and lack of high speed rail when Los Angeles hosts the Olympics. Yet what happens when the Olympics is hosted in such a HSR dependent country? Whoops!
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Xarpho's Return said:
I admit I checked /r/fuckcars for France and its HSR issues but one of the front-page issues was a minor issue that some Trump supporters parked illegally at a Dunkin' and got towed.
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I'm a little late but they did post about the Paris Olympics and trains:
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Rent free:
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Surprisingly most of the comments point out that the meme is dumb because Los Angeles has a metro system:
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