Disaster Manchester nightlife videos: Women 'feel unsafe' after being secretly filmed - the virgin police vs. THE GIGACHAD COVERT CAMERAMAN

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-68826423

Women in the north-west of England say they feel unsafe after videos taken of them on nights out without their knowledge have gained millions of views on social media and attracted a slew of misogynistic comments.

Police say they are now actively trying to catch the person making the videos.

They are asking anyone who has been filmed to come forward.

Meg, 23, from Manchester, was a victim of the disturbing social trend.

The make up artist and TikTok influencer said she was filmed on a night out in Manchester. She said she did not realise she had been filmed until she was sent a link to the video.

"I didn't see him, I didn't know I was being recorded," she said.

"I can't believe I've been targeted in that way. He looked at me and thought 'yeah, I'll video them'."


Meg said she was filmed while walking along Deansgate with two women she did not know. She had noticed they were being harassed by a group of men and offered to walk with them.

"I just walked with them to get a taxi, so we were all together," she said.

"I just ended up having a little conversation with them."

The video of Meg was posted later that night by a stranger.

It is one of dozens uploaded daily to platforms like TikTok, YouTube and Instagram, usually on the same night they are filmed.

The clips, which are often titled "Manchester nightlife" or "Liverpool nightlife", have racked up millions of views along with an abundance of misogynistic comments.

"I have no words really other than it just made me feel a bit sick," she said.

"It's just not nice at all, and obviously not just in a selfish way, but also towards the other women. A lot of them will be really, really young girls, maybe even underage girls not knowing that they were being recorded.

"There's videos of girls like falling over and having their underwear on show and stuff. And then being posted online like that, something really needs to be done about it."

Greater Manchester Police (GMP) says it is actively working to catch the people making the videos.

Officers are being briefed on the situation ahead of their shifts.

GMP said although it is not illegal to film people in public, if the action is causing distress or harassment it could be considered criminal.

PCs Ellison and Seu from GMP said it could be difficult to spot people filming due to the technology they use.

"A lot of people speak to their phone as they're walking past," PC Ellison said.

"We don't know if they're videoing or not as they're going up the street. So it can be quite hard to get that one."

PC Seu said one woman had approached him about being filmed.

"She said he had like little Ray Ban glasses and at the corner was a camera that flashed red," he said.

Ch Insp Stephen Wiggins of GMP's City of Manchester central district urged anyone who has been filmed or featured in the videos to come forward.

"We are very much up against it if we don't get that intelligence, that information, coming from the actual victims and communities themselves," he said.

"We have intervened recently on a number of occasions where we had males acting suspiciously in the city centre.

"So our plea from our organisation is that people ring us if they see any suspicious behaviour in the city centre and will make sure that will be there."

Stephen Wiggins
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Chief Inspector Stephen Wiggins said GMP was trying to catch the people making the videos
Charlotte, from Trafford Rape Crisis, is calling on social media platforms to shut the accounts down.

She said the victim-blaming nature of the comments made it harder for people who had experienced sexual violence to come forward.

"It absolutely is a direct causal link to sexual violence," she said.

"These sorts of victim-blaming commentaries introduce another level of shame.

"That becomes a barrier to women accessing the support."

TikTok and YouTube said they had removed a number of videos and accounts relating to this content for violating the guidelines.

A TikTok spokesperson said: "Misogyny is prohibited on TikTok. Any content found to violate these guidelines will be removed."

For Meg, the day the accounts are shut down cannot come soon enough.

"They shouldn't be allowed to be posted online without consent.

"These videos are creating almost a danger of violence towards women.

"The video that was took of me was posted on the same night. So if I was still out that night and that video was posted, that creates some sort of danger of violence I believe."

 

[Abimelech]

What kind of life have you lived where you haven't gone out to a bar or a nightclub and got drunk with your friends at least once? If you think that's an abnormal experience then I legitimately feel sorry for you.

The fact that certain cultures assume drunken stupidity is mandatory is what you might want to feel sorry for.

But setting aside your wild assumptions about my social life, I reiterate the fact that drunken people falling down in public are highly likely to be laughed at and if the Muslim aspect is the real issue here, then your argument would be better served to focus on that rather than trying to morally justify intoxicated indiscretions in public places.

 

[Spiny Rumples]

I think it's rude to film people without their consent. Especially if they are filmed without knowing, they should be informed and given the option to be censored/have the clip deleted by the person filming. You never know if someone's in the witness protection program or something.

 

[JohnnyG]

"There's videos of girls like falling over and having their underwear on show and stuff. And then being posted online like that, something really needs to be done about it."

Building the world's most dystopian police state to protect the same people who voted to import the people they now want protection from is an insane take. Just like the rich Prog women shocked they're being assaulted by the diversity they demanded never be arrested, charged, or jailed for their crimes, these women are finally starting to face the costs of the Luxury Beliefs they've forced on everyone else for years.

When they start voting to have a border and jail actual criminals again, I'll be right there in support. But as long as it remains "muh patriarchy keeps me from being a drunken slag with no consequences" while ignoring who the actual danger is, I'll shrug and avoid the lot of them as they deserve each other.

 

[AssignedEva]

A good time is going to a restaurant for dinner, gathering for holidays, and having a barbecue in your backyard.
Who the fuck likes being drunk? Throwing up everywhere, making a scene, doing shit, and crying about whatever feelings they've been bottling up. I've done enough tard wrangling to know other people don't want to tard wrangle.

That's my idea of a good time too, but going clubbing and getting drunk (or going barhopping and getting drunk) with friends on a night out was a lot of my good times in my early 20s (and to a lesser extent, a bit beyond). It's pretty standard for British youth. There's an emerging generational divide now partially due to the increasing rise of social media, and partially because young people can't afford a night out anymore. You could have a heavy night out on £10 (with change!) not that long ago, now £10 wouldn't even cover two drinks in many places. There's a difference between that and getting too drunk to function, which is no fun for anyone. If you think young people going to nightclubs must inherently be throwing up, making a scene and crying it sounds like you or your friends just weren't people who knew how to have a good time without getting wasted.

I think a lot of stuff around these videos are just different cultural expectations. They seem to be partially made to shame the "degeneracy" of modern society, and sure there's some girls wearing dental floss who've gotten way too drunk and are rolling around in the street with no shame, but a lot of these girls are just showing a bit of skin and having a nice time with their mates:

Maybe these girls would be scandalously dressed if they were going to a bar in Salt Lake City, but in a Northern English city? That's just how young women dress on a night out (even when it's freezing). These outfits would once have been viewed similarly:

 

[DumbDude43]

This article doesn't really go into detail on this aspect of it, but a lot of the people who consume this content are Muslim men who are directing their ire towards the "dirty kuffar slags". They watch these videos because they see white women being free to act like this and they hate them for it. It's not even really an incel thing, more of a third worlder hating white people thing.

those dirty kuffar slags are by far the biggest supporters and defenders of those third worlders being in their country in the first place
seems to me like they're simply getting what they asked for

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

What kind of life have you lived where you haven't gone out to a bar or a nightclub and got drunk with your friends at least once? If you think that's an abnormal experience then I legitimately feel sorry for you.

Niggers.
If you're an adrenaline junky in the US then night clubs would be perfect for you. Once you notice the nigger moment, you don't stop noticing because they're arguing for hours on end and a lot of the times they do eventually reach into their fanny packs and shoot up the place because they suck at aiming.

 

[whatever I feel like]

I reject the premise these women deserve to be shamed for doing this in the first place. Have you never had a drunken night out on the town with your mates? Because that says more about you than it says about these women.

I've never ended up ass up in a pile of snow with my underwear showing while out at the bar. A decade or so ago this sort of shit used to be regular tabloid fodder.

Edit: Lol, watched one video. Yeah, the camera people aren't even trying to hide it anymore.

 

[Otterly]

MORE DRUNKEN BRITISH SLAGS (PICS)' from AR15.com was first published in 2010.

Even the mainstream press has articles like this. Here’s this year’s Aintree article from the DM. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...Revellers-early-start-Best-Dressed-prize.html
Lots of ‘lovely ladies all got up’ text paired with photos showing girls dressed terribly and falling over drunk. They run the same article every year.
British townie culture IS booze based, that’s just how it is. Most young people have staggered down the high street with their mates at one point or another. Laughing about it afterwards isn’t as bad a having some dude take pics to wank over later, but British girls flashing their knickers on a night out is a tale as old as time. Uk pub culture is nothing like USA type clubs, it’s a beast all of its own. The lads also provide much amusement, this springs to mind:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13327373/Four-Lads-Jeans-recreate-photo-sent-internet-new-looks-4-years-later.html

even when it's freezing).

It’s a northern thing. We have antifreeze for blood. Who among us has not walked home mildly tipsy in snow in high heels as a young ‘un? Wouldnt do it these days, mind.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

"Local British slags go out in public drunk and dressed like whores, upset that men document it, post it online, and call them drunken whorish slags"

Why is every day "women refuse to be accountable for their actions" day?

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

The entire premise of this website is to film unwitting people going about their day and having fun, and not laughing at the drivel they themselves film and post?

You must not be paying attention...

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

A good time is going to a restaurant for dinner, gathering for holidays, and having a barbecue in your backyard.
Who the fuck likes being drunk? Throwing up everywhere, making a scene, doing shit, and crying about whatever feelings they've been bottling up. I've done enough tard wrangling to know other people don't want to tard wrangle.

Lord forbid I have some sense of decency, huh?

Agreed

Being a puking degenerate is dumb and being one into your mid 20s and later should be shamed

 

[Abimelech]

When they start voting to have a border and jail actual criminals again, I'll be right there in support. But as long as it remains "muh patriarchy keeps me from being a drunken slag with no consequences" while ignoring who the actual danger is, I'll shrug and avoid the lot of them as they deserve each other.

^THIS^ Yes!

these videos are just different cultural expectations. They seem to be partially made to shame the "degeneracy" of modern society,

in a Northern English city? That's just how young women dress on a night out (even when it's freezing).

This seems to be the only real argument some people are offering for why these girls shouldn't be mocked: They are British, therefore it's okay.

I'm not buying it. This argument is suspiciously similar to the leftist talking point that we must "tolerate" other cultures for "diversity!" Just because a certain behavior is common in British culture doesn't mean it should be defended as moral or appropriate. Unless you also think that a borderline police state that hates freedom of speech and the right to bear arms is something to defend? You got a loicense for wearing only a bra and a leather skirt in public, mate? See the magistrate at half bong past queens time!

Frankly, the longer this conversation goes on, the more I want to side with the Muslims on this one.

those dirty kuffar slags are by far the biggest supporters and defenders of those third worlders being in their country in the first place
seems to me like they're simply getting what they asked for

Which once again brings us back to the real heart of the matter.

If brit bong land can't be bothered to defend their values or their border, then they have no real right to object when Muslims show up and mock them for dressing like the chick with the big hooters in final fantasy.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

The lads also provide much amusement, this springs to mind:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...to-sent-internet-new-looks-4-years-later.html

One of my go to's for those sort of daft images of people in seasonally unsuitable attire is Wigan's Boxing Day stuff, since people tend to go for a night out in fancy dress.

Articles like this one telling me it's wrong to post a photo of Willy Man online and laugh at him are shameful.



And since you mentioned attire unsuitable to the time of year.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/gallery/wigans-legendary-boxing-day-fancy-22569388

 

[Dysnomia]

GMP said although it is not illegal to film people in public, if the action is causing distress or harassment it could be considered criminal.

Filming people and sending them a link to the video is stalker material. Whoever this is needs to be arrested before they dismember someone with a knoife they don't even have the proper English loicense for.

Okay, if that's the case then the author of the article needs to quit being a woketard and call it out. Don't be afraid to say it's illegal Muslim immigrants if that's whose doing the deed.

This is what I'm thinking. The filmers are migrants. In their own country they can't even talk to women they aren't related to. So when they get to western countries they are blown away by bare ankles and flowing hair. It's sensory overload and they just can't take it.

It could also be Africans. African men, are in my experience, the most socially inept and inappropriate men I have ever met. Again, I think a lot of it is fostered by the various cultures they came from and the wow factor of western civilization. They seem to view a lot of white women on the same level as a prostitute. I've been followed and asked all kinds of inappropriate questions by African men. And I dress pretty modest. So it's not my clothing. It's the fact that I'm a white western woman.

Not true, see the phenomenon of girls making videos of random guys in gyms to mock them online.

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It's a problem when this happens to anyone given how perverted and disgusting society has become. No man or woman should be secretly filmed by some sicko. But most of the men filmed are not in the same danger as women. All it takes is one guy to go too far. If he's sending the videos to victims' phones it's only a matter of time before it gets even more dangerous.

 

[AssignedEva]

I'm not buying it. This argument is suspiciously similar to the leftist talking point that we must "tolerate" other cultures for "diversity!" Just because a certain behavior is common in British culture doesn't mean it should be defended as moral or appropriate. Unless you also think that a borderline police state that hates freedom of speech and the right to bear arms is something to defend? You got a loicense for wearing only a bra and a leather skirt in public, mate? See the magistrate at half bong past queens time!

It's not so much I think British people are immune to criticism (far from it), it's more that I think we all tend to see what we're used to as normal and things that deviate from that as weird - and since people mistakenly perceive the UK and the US to be quite similar culturally, the differences between both places can seem more strange to Americans.
Much like how you feel negatively about many aspects of British culture, I have similar opinions about certain aspects about American culture. I suspect that a certain joyless Puritan streak that exists in parts of American culture (especially outside of the big cities) is what's motivating your pearl clutching over young women wearing short bodycon dresses for a night out.

 

[dick brain]

TikTok influencer said she was filmed

In other words, "I want everyone to look at me but only when I can curate my image."

Desire for fame is a neurosis, if being filmed really bothers you put infrared LEDs on a hat and maybe don't participate in the culture that incentivizes this behavior.

 

[Abimelech]

If it's illegal immigrants (and particularly Muslims looking to enforce their own ideology) then sure, I understand the outrage.

If it's "sickos" who have some dangerous or perverted agenda, then I also agree they should be hunted down and introduced face first to the wood chipper (in Minecraft*).

But there are a lot of brit bongs in this thread going "aw but getting drunk and acting like morons is OUR CULTURE! YOU GOTTA RESPECT OUR CULTURE! You puritanical AMERICANS just don't get it!!1"

And I'm just like, if this is your culture, maybe you really need to sit down and think about your life for awhile...? I sure as hell wouldn't be bragging that my culture involved borderline nudity, public intoxication and debauchery. And I particularly wouldn't be bragging about it while my police were more interested in interrogating people for their Facebook posts than in keeping women safe on the streets.

The implication being made here is that British people focusing their efforts on defending drunken depravity MIGHT be connected to the fact that their country is slowly being taken over by a police state which is more effective at punishing thought crime than preventing actual violence. Just a thought!

If he's sending the videos to victims' phones it's only a matter of time before it gets even more dangerous.

I didn't see anything about the victims getting the videos sent directly to them. My understanding was they saw them posted online on sites like YouTube and TikTok.

 

[Atlas Sneezed]

I reject the premise these women deserve to be shamed for doing this in the first place. Have you never had a drunken night out on the town with your mates? Because that says more about you than it says about these women.

No I haven't. I've been out but never shitfaced drunk (or drunk at all, I hate alcohol), vomiting on the street or generally making a mess out of myself. It's called self respect, and these broads should learn a little about that.

Shame is good, it's the regulator of bad behaviour in society

 

[GunCar Gary]

Lord forbid I have some sense of decency, huh?

on one hand the idea that everyone who goes out to drink at a pub is a rowdy vomiting heathen is autistic to the maxx. on the other hand it's very telling that all the women featured in this story were filmed, fully clothed, on public streets where you have no expectation of privacy (in CCTV land, no less), and their complaint is about having the wrong kind of attention for the way that they're dressed

"It's just not nice at all, and obviously not just in a selfish way, but also towards the other women. A lot of them will be really, really young girls, maybe even underage girls not knowing that they were being recorded.

"There's videos of girls like falling over and having their underwear on show and stuff. And then being posted online like that, something really needs to be done about it."

this is obvious blame deflection by a woman who thinks if she falls back on the "call men that were mean to her pedophiles and perverts" trick that she'll get the government to protect her from negative attention. and now i'm grumpy

if you don't want your underwear to be visible if you fall down on a public street put on less revealing clothing. if you don't want random people on the internet calling you a whore don't dress like a whore

 

[AssignedEva]

The implication being made here is that British people focusing their efforts on defending drunken depravity MIGHT be connected to the fact that their country is slowly being taken over by a police state which is more effective at punishing thought crime than preventing actual violence. Just a thought!

There's also the thought that you might just be a reactionary idiot.