Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Jotch]

I'm sure "inexcusable negligence" is locked and loaded in Hardin's word processor of choice.

I bet he has macros for entire template paragraphs. He just types in :ieneg: to get a full 100 word legal mad-lib.

 

[RodgerDodger]

That's the ultimate question. Will Russ be so blinded by his retarded beliefs that we won't go or will see the reality of his situation and show up? We get to learn how precisely retarded Greer truly is.

That and similar questions have been a large reason why I find this thread so interesting. I will point out that once he realized he couldn't handle the case after the 10th rulings he decided to try and rehire his old lawyers. In that instance he didn't let his magical thinking cloud his judgement. He did pick the stupidest possible option while still realizing he couldn't handle it himself however.

I lean towards showing up. Just because he can never turn down a chance to let him explain. But he will show up at least 30 minutes late, just as the Judge is about to move on, with a lame assed excuse.

 

[Betonhaus]

Right now the vote is showing odds of 2:1 that Greer will not call in.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

I lean towards showing up. Just because he can never turn down a chance to let him explain. But he will show up at least 30 minutes late, just as the Judge is about to move on, with a lame assed excuse.

I'm kind of leaning that way myself, because we've ample proof that his "strategy" for Utah was to ignore everything after requesting his stay in the hopes that he could get lightning to strike twice and his lolyers would ride back in to save him (they won't), and then when it failed complain that he thought a stay was automatic. He had worked premeditatedly on a document explaining how he made a mistake, the very existence of which meant he knew it was a mistake.

However, he may gamble on Florida not being able to just immediately close this shit for non-response (if the court could imagine a good excuse, they have to wait until Russ doesn't provide that excuse, like he got hit by a bus). If he's this kind of dumbass, he will skip the call, Hardin will make the inevitable motion, and Russ will finally reply to that. In utah, of course.

 

[GloriousScarf]

I think he will call but there is also a high chance of him screwing up the time due to the timezone difference between NV and FL.

 

[Betonhaus]

I think he will call but there is also a high chance of him screwing up the time due to the timezone difference between NV and FL.

It will be impossible to determine if him failing to call is intentional or unintentional, especially as he will definitely have an excuse prepared.

 

[Shakespeare]

He'll call in. He's just been slapped in the face with a reminder of what happens when you ignore the court, I doubt that he'll make the same mistake so soon after. Even Greer isn't that much of a retard.

 

[Jeb Bush]

As far as Joshes actions go, he has already:

1) Went on a diet
2) Started planning to move back to the U.S.
3) Moved the lawsuit to his home state

Not to alog, but Hardin might be trying to get this case and the harmful precedent dismissed, by giving Greer the (not)date, he failed to get out of the Taylor Swift lawsuit.

 

[DavidS877]

I think he will call but there is also a high chance of him screwing up the time due to the timezone difference between NV and FL.

One thing that makes it more funny is that Florida time and Pensacola time are different. So he could try calling in at Florida time and it be the wrong time.
But if he does that I think he'd just be an hour early.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The true Hallmark of a lolcow is doing the same stupid thing over and over again no matter how many times it blows up in their face. I'm leaning towards him ignoring the Call in.

 

[Google.com]

He should just go full Sovereign citizen and refuse to acknowledge the legal authority of Florida and the states existence.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

One thing that makes it more funny is that Florida time and Pensacola time are different. So he could try calling in at Florida time and it be the wrong time.
But if he does that I think he'd just be an hour early.

Huh learn something new everyday. 14 states have multiple timezones, but Florida's may be one of the most pronounced (many of the states are either obviously fuckoff huge like Texas and Alaska, or only have a small sliver that shares a timezone with the metro area just across the border, like Indiana or Oregon.

https://www.time-zones-map.com

(Gotta forever love florida cucking GA from having a gulf coast port, and almost cucking alabama)

 

[JustTheFaxcts]

He should just go full Sovereign citizen and refuse to acknowledge the legal authority of Florida and the states existence.

Florida is essentially America's dick anyway, and since the US is trooning out it's transphobic to even acknowledge that it hasn't been lopped off yet. Therefore the case must go back to Utah and Russ awarded a date with Null in Taylor Swift drag.

 

[Bogliacci]

I’m pretty sure Russ is getting the emails, he’s just ignoring the Florida ones

I can hear him justifying himself now

"I refuse to acknowledge the bias ruling against me because of my disability, florida is a state that is supporting terrorists"

 

[Kosher Salt]

Huh learn something new everyday. 14 states have multiple timezones, but Florida's may be one of the most pronounced (many of the states are either obviously fuckoff huge like Texas and Alaska, or only have a small sliver that shares a timezone with the metro area just across the border, like Indiana or Oregon.

https://www.time-zones-map.com

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(Gotta forever love florida cucking GA from having a gulf coast port, and almost cucking alabama)

time.gov is my go-to for US-based time zones, since it displays the current local time for each zone (which is handy if you're trying to remember which direction the time changes).

 

[Harvey Danger]

Cross-posting a bit from the Acerthorn lawsuit against KF, which is relying on Greer's lolsuit in a circlejerk of bad lolcow reasoning. Hardin filed a motion saying Acerthorn filed suit in West Virginia to avoid filing in his home state of Arkansas, where he is already labelled a vexatious litigant. Acerthorn defends his choice of venue by saying Lolcow LLC exists in WV, not AR. Then he calls out Greer for suing Kiwi Farms, a website, incorrectly and losing the venue transfer:





Russ, when you're getting dunked on by Acerthorn, it's time to pack it in and give up. The turkey gobbler can't even spell "website" correctly, but he managed to sue the right entity without letting the error stand for 3 years.

 

[Napoleon III]

It will be impossible to determine if him failing to call is intentional or unintentional, especially as he will definitely have an excuse prepared.

I think he will be let off if he doesn't show up though it will open the door for Hardin to be more aggressive. The judge if Greer doesn't show up will let him off the hook just this once and then wack him at the next available screw up.

This is something I have noticed having followed a like a dozen or so cases. So again I'm not anything close to an expert but I have noticed this pattern.

Judges tend to be nicer and let some things through that they shouldn't for the side that is going to and eventually does lose. I think Judges figure out who is going to win beforehand for something like 95% of cases and then they give the loser more lenience to protect their impartiality. If their impartiality and fairness is questioned they can point to how lenient they were to the loser. Basically this is a complicated case of ass-covering.

This is not me saying cases are rigged I just think judges and their clerks can usually figure out who has the strongest case beforehand and the actual trial is usually a bit of theatre that also keeps lawyers somewhat honest so they can't just make up everything.

This is also why I don't find the specifics of this scheduling conference interesting and worth visiting in person. The only interesting bits will be big enough we will find out if whether we are there or not.

The true Hallmark of a lolcow is doing the same stupid thing over and over again no matter how many times it blows up in their face. I'm leaning towards him ignoring the Call in.

I think you can make convincing arguments for both sides.

But I still think Greer will show up.

Then he calls out Greer for suing Kiwi Farms, a website, incorrectly and losing the venue transfer:

Acerthorn didn't realize this case is currently ongoing. He said a few years ago because he looked at when this case started.

Honestly I don't blame him for that it is just funny because this case has literally been going on that long.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Reminder. Russ’s response (if any) to the Supreme Court is due on the 3rd (tomorrow). Bets on if he’ll actually file anything or not?

 

[CansOfCant]

Reminder. Russ’s response (if any) to the Supreme Court is due on the 3rd (tomorrow). Bets on if he’ll actually file anything or not?

I daresay he barely knows how, and his ability to CoPilot it is buried under the giant capital-P-Plight that is the FL call.

 

[Null]

Conference is cancelled.