Culture Exodus of congregations over 3 years has United Methodist Church facing 43% cut

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By Mark A. Kellner
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Shelby Ruch-Teegarden, center, of Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary, joins other protestors during the United Methodist Church's special session of the general conference in St. Louis, in this Tuesday, Feb. 26, 2019, file photo. Disagreements over LGBTQ policies have splintered the Methodists in the years since.

The United Methodist Church is weighing an upcoming three-year $346.7 million budget, a 43% drop from the last triennial spending plan of $603.1 million, according to a report by UM News, the church’s official news service.

The proposed cuts stem from the exit of 7,673 of congregations from America’s second-largest Protestant denomination, of which nearly 97%, or 7,432, departed in 2022-2023.

Most of the congregations left in a dispute over how the church should handle the role of LGBTQ+ individuals, including the questions of same-sex marriage and ordination to the ministry, with those leaving wishing to maintain historic biblical views on these issues. A large number have joined the Global Methodist Church, which brands itself as a more traditional Methodist body.

Another 675 congregations were either discontinued, abandoned, merged or closed over financial reasons in the same two-year period, the UMC said.

All ministries in America’s second-largest Protestant denomination — which had roughly 10 million members in 2022 — will feel the impact of what the news service called “significant” spending cuts, including general agencies and United Methodist bishops.

The UMC’s Episcopal Fund, which supports the activities of its bishops, or regional administrators, would receive $78 million during the 2025-2028 period, a 15.2% decrease, church officials said in an online statement.

The General Administration Fund would drop by 27.5% to $26 million, with the General Council on Finance and Administration taking a 59.1% allocation reduction. The group’s “Connectional Table” fund, which in turn distributes money to several other denominational units, will see a 49% hit, at $238 million proposed.

“With great sacrifice, our general agencies, like our local churches and annual conferences, continue to offer creative leadership, programming, and mission with just five loaves and two fish,” Judi Kenaston, chief connectional ministries officer for the UMC, said in a statement. An annual conference is the United Methodist’s equivalent of a diocese.

Cuts to the Episcopal Fund could provide money for only 22 bishops in the United States, a sharp drop from the 29 currently serving, and less than half the 46 bishop positions approved in 2016 for the ensuing three-year period.

“In this critical period of time in the church,” Council of Bishops President Thomas Bickerton told the UM News agency, “to go that low in the number of bishops in the United States would not be helpful — in terms of bridging the transition, providing effective leadership in the midst of all the changes happening and serving as a bridge to the connection.”

The bishop said the group is hoping to trim U.S. numbers through “natural attrition.”

The proposed UMC budget will be the smallest in 40 years.

The church’s policymaking assembly, called the General Conference, is expected to vote on the budget proposal at its business session to be held April 23-May 3 in Charlotte, North Carolina.

At that session, United Methodist regional bodies in Africa, Asia and Europe may seek authority for congregations in their regions to disaffiliate, again over the issue of LGBTQ+ issues. If UMC churches in those areas depart, it would mean a further shrinkage of membership numbers and funding shortfalls.
 
Maybe the outright and unabashed apostacy/sodomy is making good Christians not want to go or donate? Maybe? Just an observation. Oh, also, you cannot worship both God and the demon of Greed (Mammon), you have to at least pick one. Cunts.
 
I like how they don't bring up that the Traditionalist side won the vote in the General Conference in 2019. We supposed to discuss the split in a special session in 2020, but COVID killed that, so now it's chaos. The gay marriage bit was the church wanting the West Coast bishops punished under the Book of Discipline for marrying gays and the we traditionalists did not want open and active homosexuals in church leadership, same as we don't want adulterers in leadership either. And yes, there was a special concern about openly gay youth leaders. I know we're seen as the "tolerant, liberal church" and it's true to an extent, but we're the only mainline denomination that got enough votes together to tell the progtards to fuck off. Small and brief, but a win none the less. More of a fight than the rest put up.
 
TLDR; big city bughive "churches" want to be hip and with the times by simping for LGBT, smaller churches don't want this, so they democratically vote to leave

TLDR; the fags and their simps ruin everything

Source: I am Methodist (and this is oversimplifying it I know).

Why do people think the solution to everything is, "Oh I know we'll brown nose the gays that will still hate us anyway" ? This happens everywhere. Will we ever tire of this fad?
 
TLDR; big city bughive "churches" want to be hip and with the times by simping for LGBT, smaller churches don't want this, so they democratically vote to leave

TLDR; the fags and their simps ruin everything

Source: I am Methodist (and this is oversimplifying it I know).

Why do people think the solution to everything is, "Oh I know we'll brown nose the gays that will still hate us anyway" ? This happens everywhere. Will we ever tire of this fad?
The Seminaries were ideologically captured decades ago. The Catholics got it back in the 1920s and 1930s, for America there a influx of Boomers in the 60s, because Seminary was easier to get into than colleges and universities at the time and you'd still get a draft deferment. So just the 60s Boomers to Liberal to Progtarded pipeline. We have, last I knew, one theologically conservative Seminary left, Asbury in Kentucky, and most of the grads end up going to non-denominational or other Wesleyan churches.
 
I mean, bar the mega churches in the deep south and the rise of Prosperity Gospel in South Korea, aren't all churches; Conservative inclined as well also facing nosedives in income? The main reason some, like the Catholic Church, aren't feeling the strain so much being they aren't just churches but significant banking and buisness players too.

I don't doubt the Progressive v Conservative spat didn't help, but the eternal problem is still there.

Western Progressives have most of the money to fund shit, and once they leave don't return.

Conservatives don't leave as quickly and do return once things are as they like it, but they don't tend to have as much money to fund shit.

See the rocket speed rise of the SSPX in Africa, and then default to more Liberal Roman Catholicism. Conservative denominations don't struggle for recruiting, but they seem to for finance.

This is pretty much why a lot of Catholicism and Anglicanism openly suffer (if not accept) woke shit in their Western territories. They lose their pay pigs at their own peril.
 
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TLDR; big city bughive "churches" want to be hip and with the times by simping for LGBT, smaller churches don't want this, so they democratically vote to leave
This is actually incorrect. The largest churches in the denomination were the conservative ones, who were also the most powerful, and they were the ones who left. The liberal churches are the smaller ones, and they are the ones feeling the pinch now.

I mean, bar the mega churches in the deep south and the rise of Prosperity Gospel in South Korea, aren't all churches; Conservative inclined as well also facing nosedives in income?
See my point. The churches that left the UMC were the largest richest churches, and they were all conservative.

Western Progressives have most of the money to fund shit, and once they leave don't return.
Western Progressives don't go to church in the first place.
 
See my point. The churches that left the UMC were the largest richest churches, and they were all conservative.
The Methodist laity has always trended fairly to mostly theologically conservative in comparison to the church leadership. Just never to the "Look at how Pious I Am" levels of the Southern Baptists and such.
 
The budget prior to the departure of the majority of the congregations was $603.1m, of which 97% of the membership then left.

$346.7m comes from the Liberal remainers.

3% produced, give or take, $346.3m.

It looks like 3% produced more than half of the overall budget available pre schism.

I think that speaks volumes about why that liberal 3% got their way. All that money, with comparatively less administrative costs.

Losing numbers isn't good, but the almighty dollar comes first.

Until Conservative believers can start splashing the cash the way more moderate or progressive wings can, those with more buisness acumen will be courting then instead.
 
So, funny story. I stopped going to my local UMC last year, but apparently I'm still on their mailing list. I got a message yesterday saying they have to sell off part of their unused land due to financial hardship. Under the circumstances, I think God would forgive me if I point and laugh and their misfortune.

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As a Christian, I shall sit back and laugh. The Lord and His Son shall laugh with me as these foul blasphemous heretical worshippers of baal and moloch become brokies.
I wonder when Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will come down with that giant whip and drives these sodomites and heretics out of His Father's churches?
 
Remember, these are the ghouls that not just allowed letter activists in but strong-armed (rammed) these choices down the throats of the organization.. top down dictate style. They excommunicated bishops and other members for daring to even speak their mind or disagree. (literally in cancel outrage culture style) They even outed members of voting leadership who disagreed.

Get woke, go broke.
 
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