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Truly amazed this faggot doesn't have his own thread yet.
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I'm so glad that Nicholas Contino is finally getting the Kiwi recognition he deserves. A little-known fact about this hulking AGP is that he also has a podcast!

Skip to 51:30 to hear him go into detail about his literal rape fetish. The rest of the podcast is equally disgusting and he speaks in detail about the orgy parties he goes to.


ETA he also just booked his stink ditch surgery btw
 
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Prepare yourselves, anyone, for an ongoing saga that proves that all of this is a cult that targets the youngest in our population and scrambles their brains.

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AITAH For Not Wanting To Raise My NB Daughter's Baby?​

My daughter came to me at 16 and said she was non-binary, but only sometimes. Like, some days she would feel more male than female and somedays she would feel like neither. She wanted me to ask her every day what day it was and then refer to her as that pronoun of the day.
I told her that wasn’t going to fly (Growing up, I spent a lot of time on LJ during the ol’ ‘bun-self’ and ‘zen-self’ ‘zir-self’ days. People who think this is new to this generation are fooling themselves). I told her that I would call her the pro-noun she wanted, and do my best to remember it day to day, but she was going to have to tell me what she wanted for that day. I wasn’t going to play a daily guessing game.
This went on for about a week or two until she finally seemed to grow tired or bored and just said I could call her ‘her’. Though she still identifies as non-binary. Fine. (At least when it was going on she wanted ‘she, he, or they’ — I’m sorry but I couldn’t have done fox-self/fox-them with a straight face).

So that’s the pronoun story and looking back where I think things started to go off the handle. Here’s my real question.
My daughter is now 18, pregnant, and seems to have lost her god damned mind. Or I’m an asshole. You choose.
This year has been a struggle. She wanted to take a break year before she goes to community college, but can’t keep a job. Apparently, retail situations are too phobic against her non-binary state. (My child looks/acts/dresses exactly as a young adult female btw. When I ask how people are being phobic against her she gets as prickly as a cactus so I really don’t know the details.). She’s been through 4 or 5 jobs this year, quit all of them. She won’t consider call centers that aren’t face to face because she doesn’t like to talk on phones, and is apparently looking for a remote job without any luck.

She’s been unemployed since Thanksgiving (she quit her last job on Black Friday, in fact) and I was on the verge of laying down the law, telling her she either needs to go to school this upcoming semester full time or get a full time job or move out with her friends.

But now she’s come to me and she’s 5 months pregnant. She’s very angry at me, says it’s my fault because:
  1. I didn’t put her on puberty-blocking hormones when she came to me 2 years ago.
  2. She believes I am in fact trying to ‘feminize her’ by getting her birth control. (The pill.). She’s been throwing her prescription away.

This is where I might be the asshole. I called her a little idiot. We don’t use that sort of language in my house, and I never call people names—especially my own child— but at that moment I could just see red.
The hormone thing is a non-issue IMO because this is the first time I ever heard of her wanting hormones. What was I supposed to do? Go back in time?

As for the birth control! It’s also the first time I’m hearing anything about this! There are non-pill options that don’t have estrogen. If that was her want, all she had to do was ask and I would have driven her to the doctor myself! Or she could have taken the car she has and done it. She has her own medical card, even! Though to be fair, I don’t know how she would have managed the co-pay without a job. I know for a fact her old high school gave out free condoms like candy because her friends were always giggling over flavored sample packs and even blew a few of them up like balloons and left them around the house one time. She had all the birth control she could ever want and used none of it.
It gets worse.

We’re way past the date of abortion (again, I would have helped her if this had been her wish! We live in an abortion protected state and can afford it!). She’s known she was pregnant since about 2 months and has come to think of her baby like a sibling. She expects me to raise it like it was mine. That this is my duty, in fact, because she says it is my refusal to accept her non-binary state that led to her being pregnant. So she was going to get a brother or sister and I was going to have another child.

You can say my language grew… sterner. Versions of ‘get your head out of your ass’ and ‘congratulations, Mommy, you have some hard decisions to make’ and I said I would absolutely not raise her baby for her.

She also refused to say who the father was. Now that I’ve cooled down I’m really hoping she has a secret boyfriend. She does have some friends who were born male, but now also don’t identify that way. We didn’t even get there as I lost my mind when she said she thinks of her own baby as a sibling and wants me to raise it like my own child.

She’s locked herself in her room loudly wailing, I feel like crap warmed over. She’s been in there for 12 hours, and as she has an attached bathroom, probably won’t be coming out until she gets hungry. Considering it’s been half a day I think she has snacks stored.
I also don’t know where to go from here. Being pregnant sucks and messes with your head, so I’d like to blame that and the fear she must be feeling, but… I have the bad feeling I either raised a spoiled brat or someone with an emerging personality disorder.
So I need to know from people who aren’t emotionally involved, and maybe some people who are more in tune with this whole nonbinary thing than I am.

What do I do to help while also making her responsible for her own child? How can I help my daughter accept she must do basically the most feminine thing you can do (give birth and possibly breast-feed) while being sensitive that she’s non-binary? Am I just a big asshole here?
Typing all this out it feels like my daughter is lost in crazy town. I'm still not raising her baby but at what point do I drag a legal adult to the hospital?

Edit: You might disagree with my choices or wording, but I'm reporting people who call this bait. It's not.

Edit2: It's the middle of the night and she has decided to pack some of her clothes and stay with one of her friends. (One who I suspect is the baby daddy). Before she left she told me that she already called the police and let them know that she was 'leaving of her own free will and was not in danger'. Like I was going to report an 18 year old adult as a runaway or something? It was insulting.
I told her she needs to work out details if she wants to adopt with the father, and she was welcome back home when she had a plan in place.
It was short because I heard her on the way out. I think she just meant to leave without saying anything.

Thank you for your kind comments and advice, Reddit. I'm going to sleep.
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We got an update! It gets more insane from here!


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Update: My NB Daughter Wants Me To Raise Her Baby​

Update to this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/comments/1akhqjt/aitah_for_not_wanting_to_raise_my_nb_daughters/

Hi,
This is an update to this post (Long story short my 18 year old NB daughter wanted me to raise her baby, and she told me she thinks the baby as her sibling. We had a blow-out, she locked herself in her room for most of a day, and then took off with her friends/her lover)
So this happened a few days ago but I didn’t update because I needed to get my head around it. It still doesn’t make sense.
Daughter finally unblocked me. She and the person who got her pregnant wanted to talk to me at a public place. We chose iHop.
Although I suspected I knew who her lover was, I was disappointed to find out because they have been a part of my daughter’s friend group since high school and was the only one I ever had a problem with and kicked out of my house.
They are trans now but two years ago the friend group was watching a movie in the livingroom, and every time I’d pass by he (he was a he then) would lock eyes with me and make really obnoxious, loud, orgasm sounds like that scene in Harry Met Sally. I told him to knock it off and grew sterner when he did it again.

Then when I was in the kitchen he somehow snuck up behind me and was miming jack-off movements with his hand. I turned around and caught him at it. He was still fully clothed, but it was startling and freaky. I kicked him out.
So now I’ll just call them Sperm-doner because that’s what they are.
I’m still calling my daughter ‘my daughter’ and ‘she’ because I still haven’t been told not to by her otherwise. So get off my case on that.
Anyway, the iHop meeting was a shit-show. Sperm-doner sat with my daughter and went on the attack. Sperm-doner’s points were.
  1. I was poisoning my daughter by “making” her take birth control. (I only helped her get the prescription and would have done everything I could if I knew she didn’t want to take the pill. There are other methods!)
  2. It will take years to “fix” my daughter after all I did. (Not giving her hormones even though I had no idea that was what she wanted. She dropped even wanting to change her pronouns after a few weeks.)
  3. Abortion is a sin and I am a monster for suggesting it. It’s past the date anyway.
  4. I am further abusing her by not taking care of the baby while she fixes herself. (I guess they meant it as a temp situation which was also new to me.)
So apparently even though I’m an abusive monster, a bad mother, and so on, I’m even worse for not taking in their baby. At least no one suggested that I raise it like my daughter’s sister anymore. That might have been my daughter’s thought on it.
Sperm-doner did most of the talking while my daughter just sat and glared at me, nodding along.
It was kind of a whirl wind, Sperm-doner pounded the table a few times, and even the waiter knew not to bother us after drinks. lol. I’m surprised we weren’t asked to leave.

There was a lot said, mostly by the Sperm-doner who really seemed to be steering the ship. I asked why Sperm-doner couldn’t take care of the baby and Sperm-doner said his parents were even worse than me. I guess my daughter and Sperm-doner taking care of the child they created is out of the question.

I told them that I would not be raising their baby for them and that adoption is the best bet. They said that if I don’t agree to raise it, they’ll make sure I’ll never see the baby ever.

I won’t raise their child for them. So that’s that, I guess.

I feel so many flavors of worried and angry and then worried all over again. I’ve been around the block and it’s never a great sign when the person you’re with makes an enemy of your family. That’s what Sperm-doner has done by painting me as an abuser and failed mother who also won’t take in their baby. Sounds like Sperm-doner has cut themselves off from their own family too. So I’m worried my daughter is in a very controlling relationship with someone who convinced her to stop birth control because they think hormones are too feminizing somehow and that she needs to be “fixed”. But they still want me to raise their baby.

I’m angry that my daughter can just hear this crap and nod along like: Yeah that makes total sense. She is not stupid. I think she’s love blinded.
I’m sad and worried for the baby. A couple commenters suggested I wanted nothing to do with the baby because I wouldn’t agree to raise it as my own. No, in a perfect world, I would want a normal grandmotherly relationship. Or at least know that the child is safe and has been adopted into a loving family.

I don’t care what my daughter does with her gender, or her body as long as she doesn’t hurt herself. I want her to be in a happy relationship with someone who values her for who she is. Sperm-doner kept using the word ‘fix’ which I see as another terrible sign.
It’s bad all around. My house is empty. It feels like my adult daughter has run off to join up with some weird church/cult thing who tells her that up is down. That not using birth control and not getting an abortion and then expecting others to take care of the child is all a-okay. Oh and that she’s a problem and needs to be “fixed”.

I texted her and said I would be there for her, but Sperm-doner was still not welcome in the house. I think I’m blocked again.
She’s a legal adult. I’m not sure what else I can do at this point? In my low points, part of me thinks maybe I should agree to take the baby and then immediately make sure it’s adopted into a loving home. But I get the feeling that Sperm-doner won’t make that easy, and right now my daughter does what he says. Also I’m not sure if that plan is even possible. It sounds Hollywood.

I have an appointment to speak with a councilor, but the soonest I could get is April. Some of my friends think I should take the baby in either to get them away from the parents or because they think it’s my duty, or both.

The only silver lining in this was that they both seemed sober. I don’t think there’s drugs involved.

Am I reading this wrong? Am I the asshole here?
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I feel so bad for the mom cause her daughter is obviously trapped in a batshit insane cult with a batshit insane manipulative troon as a baby daddy and now an innocent life is being born into this whole mess.
 
Miriam Margoyles said:
Nah, m8. If men looked like bodybuilders, they'd all be weak as shit - they're all about the surface level aesthetic of strength, rather than actual practical power. That's literally NOT what a man is supposed to look like.
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Not super relevant, but the other day I saw a video of a couple huge bodybuilders flabbergasted as a rock climber, who looked like just a fit, slightly muscular man, effortlessly did a bunch of reps on a machine with weights that they could not do once.
 
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I feel so bad for the mom cause her daughter is obviously trapped in a batshit insane cult with a batshit insane manipulative troon as a baby daddy and now an innocent life is being born into this whole mess.
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First of all this story is entirely made up. Second, if it isn't made up these people are guaranteed low IQ white trash who deserve absolutely no sympathy. The mom is already entirely indoctrinated if she's even willing to entertain this NB bullshit, and it is entirely the mom's fault for 1. Being a single mother 2. Enabling her daughter her entire life.
 
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her daughter fucked around... and found out what happens when you let a man do you when you're not on birth control. Seriously, how can she claim to be a "somethinggender" when she's quite a few months into the most womanly thing a woman can experience BIOLOGICALLY is beyond me. that should tell you it's all bullshit and you cant change reality and your body.

all that aside, that daughter of hers needs some real help. as in, psychological. her weird troony deadbeat baby daddy aside, best case scenario is reality will hit her when she gives birth, has the baby, and realizes what being responsible for another human is like. the mere suggestion of raising the baby as her sibling might've been her sanity subconsciously telling her she's too young to be doing this shit, even if it's a fucking disrespectful suggestion showing any lack of respect for your mom. chastity IS a form of birth control, dude. Guess it's to be expected if she's got a sexual beast (not a compliment) of a "tranny" boyfriend, who's fertility seems to be quite intact despite the transition.

Poor woman... I'm sorry but your daughter did join a cult. I don't joke when I call it a cult of debauchery. they want you to be a lustful fiend, get on a shitton of drugs, and live your worst life. ugh, I hope the baby'll be fine. I hope.
 
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Serious weak tranny energy coming from all these posts mad about people who lift weights, if you're posting about that at least post some gigahons to laugh at.

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Being a 6’ 5” trans women is an agonizing nightmare

Hello. I’m a 19 year old 6’ 5” trans women who’s about 1 and 1/2 years on HRT and lives just outside of New York City. Here‘s what my life is like (keep in mind, everything on this list happened while presenting fem)

- Women always sit as far away from me on the Subway as possible. If the subway is packed an I sit down, whatever women are next to me will move to the other side of the seats once they become available.

- Recently at night (while in fishnets and a dress) I was walking behind a women and she sped-walk to the otherside of the street. I was walking home at the time and when I got to my place I cried.

- I walked through a very Christian area of uptown Manhatten (for anyone confused by the idea of hardcore Christians in Manhatten, it was a black Christian neighborhood), and was heckled and called names by so many people there. I know I shouldn’t expect to be liked by Christians but it really hurt.

- I get gendered correctly by cis people maybe 10% of the time, and it’s usually when I’m with other trans people, so I assume they just “get the idea”.

- My own parents tell me being a trans is a terrible idea because I’m tall. Maybe they’re right.

I’m feeling so incredibly down about this. I’ve been only trans for two years and nothing has gotten better :(((. Being trans well being this tall is an unbelievable curse I would never ever wish on anybody. I know going “what did I do to deserve this” is incredibly pitiful, but I don’t know why other trans girls get to be happy and live there best lives and I‘m just… not allowed to. I’m thinking of de-transitioning. Is there any light at the end of the tunnel? Do any tall girls (or tall trans girls in general) have any messages of hope?

No pictures of him next to real women unfortunately.

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I'm a bit taller than this guy and no one at this height is going to pass as a woman, it's crazy to even try.
 
DeathToAlberta, a early 40s, balding, fat, BPD, misanthropic, miserable MtF, who spent the last 4 years posting on reddit about how much he fucking hates himself, women and everyone else he holds responsible for his life being an absolute dumpster fire.
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4 years would seems like a lot of posts to go through, but no, half of them got removed for unhinged hatered towards mankind
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[removed]!? Ah geez dood, maybe the Canadian health care system could help YOU get [removed]? But we're getting ahead of ourselves.
So what's the story? Our (soon to be an) hero sheds some light.
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Sad if true, but adults can deal with all sorts of-
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Link to post, recommended reading for deep lore

As we see, our dude is not doing so well...
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Cutting this short, as anyone interested may go through his various comments, spats with redditors telling him how much of a toxic piece of shit he is and whatnot.
And he keeps posting, was there no snow this Canadian winter? Anomalies, man, anomalies...

Apologies for any formatting errors!
 
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Prepare yourselves, anyone, for an ongoing saga
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Fucking shitshow. But the mother should not have met her daughter and "sperm donor" alone. She should have brought together a few more adult relatives (Where the fuck is the father?!); this way "sperm donor" would not have been allowed to dominate the conversation. Cooler heads will help counter the bullshit the two love birds fling at her.
 
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These sort of lonely entitled men are the fucking worst. Somehow it never occurs to them that people just don't want to be in a relationship with someone that is desperately demanding affection.
It's not some grand conspiracy against men, you're just clingy and annoying. Clingy and annoying women can't maintain relationships either.

Also here's archives of the posts referenced
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These sort of lonely entitled men are the fucking worst. Somehow it never occurs to them that people just don't want to be in a relationship with someone that is desperately demanding affection.
It's not some grand conspiracy against men, you're just clingy and annoying. Clingy and annoying women can't maintain relationships either.

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Right?? My God, shocker of the century, turns out an unconvincingly cross dressing man jumping up and down while he screams "LOVE ME!! LOVE ME RIGHT FUCKING NOW OR I'LL KILL YOU AND EVERYONE YOU CARE ABOUT!!!" actually isn't attractive to women? I guess it's actually a horrifying turn off or something?? How are our innocent, delicate hons supposed to navigate such a barrage of demands for advanced social skills?

In completely unrelated news, it turns out trannies and their allies are legitimately retarded, and not just in the sense of being autistic but actually stupid:

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Why don't you "experiment" with actually being capable of thought first, Aidan? Walk before you run and all.

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I'm a bit taller than this guy and no one at this height is going to pass as a woman, it's crazy to even try.
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This guy has been in the tranny threads a few times. He skinwalks that goth egirl look so also wears massive platform boots on top of his 6'5 height. He must be fucking terrifying irl. Hopefully someone can do me a solid if they see this and link you to his other posts.
 
the NY tranny man. yeah dude, that's kinda the only way to gender a troony correctly, if they're in a pack with other weird and queer (insult) people. specially if you're basketball material wtf so tall. but yeah, when troonies get gendered correctly here's what might be happening: I am afraid you're gonna punch me because unlike you I am not that big and you're fucking gigantic/you might be a rapist or a sexual predator or just a criminal and i wanna live another day/you're too sensitive and i dont wanna deal with shit/you're with a bunch of other fags and we can tell/costumer service/you're in the women's bathroom and they're being nice so you don't get even weirder 'bout it/you're in the men's bathroom and it's uncomfortable to have a girl where we can supposedly relax/enabler or handmaiden.
 
Some troons hold a funeral for a “transgender rights activist” troon in a Catholic Church.

“The pews of St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York City are a sea of black and ruby red that glimmers when the light hits just right. The shine stems from the various gems adorning attendees—on their slicked back, curly shags and mullets, delicate lacy veils, button down shirts, crocheted crop tops, and even decorated in the shape of a heart on the side of their cheeks—who arrive with red carnations and roses to commemorate transgender activist Cecilia Gentili.

The pearls and tulle worn at Gentili’s funeral are what Oscar Diaz, who identifies Gentili as their mother (a part of their chosen family), says best honors her “fabulous” legacy. “It felt appropriate to send her off in this way, to give her her ‘sainthood,’” they say. Gentili is believed to be the first trans woman to have a funeral service at St. Patrick's Cathedral, according to her funeral organizers.”

Catholcism subreddit not happy about it, though there is a troon and a few defenders.

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Someone from the church made a statement condemning it, at least?

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