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Why Are Women Reading and Listening to Porn in Public?

Subtle romance novel covers and erotic audio apps make it easier than ever. Is that a good thing?

By Magdalene Taylor
19 January 2024, 4:34pm


Erotic novels have always been women’s domain. All those old paperbacks featuring a Fabio-esque shirtless man riding a horse in front of a castle you used to see at your grandma’s house — those were all smut. “Romance” novels are often just a nicer term for books about a woman getting dicked down, and the covers betrayed that. But as of late, the genre has taken on a new life. Paired with audiobooks and audio storytelling apps, women’s erotic content is more popular than ever. Not only that, women are conspicuously consuming it in mundane, public situations… and that’s kind of weird?

Several of the most popular, bestselling books of the last two years have been erotic, at least in part. Novels by Colleen Hoover, which are “rich with graphic sex scenes,” have dominated the New York Times bestseller charts with several weeks-long No. 1 spots. That these books are so popular in real life is, unsurprisingly, linked to their popularity online. On Booktok, one of TikTok’s largest communities, videos devoted to highlighting “spicy” content like Hoover’s are among the highest-viewed on the hashtag. Booktok has been critical in the success of romance/erotic books—not only in promoting the specific books themselves but in “normalizing” reading them. When videos of everyday women wearing Skims and slickbacked buns describing their favorite literary sex scenes go viral and the comments sections are filled with women who look the same, the implicit message for the viewer is that it’s all totally ordinary.


Unlike the Fabio days, today’s biggest romance/erotic books have entirely nondescript covers. They’re covers that you wouldn’t think twice about if you saw them prominently displayed at the airport or in the hands of a colleague on their lunch break. Many of the more recent paperbacks appear no different than any other mass-market novel, replete with some floral motifs and large condensed minimalist fonts. Even older erotic novels are having their covers entirely recalibrated, replacing men who had perfectly chiseled abs with illustrations of women in mom jeans and messy buns. While women online seem perfectly happy to admit to routinely listening to or reading narrative sex scenes, their books’ covers suggest that, somewhat fairly, they don’t want the strangers around them to know it as it’s happening.

Meanwhile, apps like Dipsea and Quinn have capitalized on the erotica market through audio. Both feature women-focused explicit stories, ranging from intricate romances to something along the lines of straight-up dirty talk. Some are undoubtedly meant to be used for masturbation, while others may be more of a slow burn. Regardless, these apps and erotic novels can in many ways be interpreted like porn—in fact, articles explaining why women like erotica often explicitly detail why women prefer erotica instead of pornography. And thanks to headphones and subtle covers, they can be consumed anytime, anywhere.

Erotica may have some benefits beyond just being horny and hot. A 2022 study from the Journal of Sex Research found that women who read the genre have 74 percent more sex than those who don’t. Cool! It’s good for people to have sex. And perhaps these women are truly pressed for time, busy with all the other responsibilities of a career or family or relationship, so their morning commute may be the only opportunity they have to indulge!

Still, would we not consider it strange, at minimum, for a man to be doing the same? To be reading or listening to this content in the company of others? I get it, I get it—erotica isn’t quite the same thing as viewing hardcore pornography; women’s sexualities are often deprioritized; men’s sexuality has the possibility of being more threatening; etc. At the end of the day, I want women to enjoy erotica and enjoy their sexuality. Maybe, though, the end of the day is exactly the right time for it, in the privacy of your own home. Get your rocks off, ladies. Just not in public.
 
Now think about it very carefully and answer me the following question: does that scene still count as porn?
I think anything that depicts sex be it written, drawn, photographed or videotaped is porn. Anything that exists to have scenes with sex in them is porn. That 300 page romance novel exists solely to tell about two characters falling in love and consummating that love. It's porn. More socially acceptable porn, sure.
 
If romance novels are considered 'porn', so is every day-time film and TV series with a sex scene in it. Netflix productions are 90% porn.
You say that like it's supposed to sound outrageous but you're absolutely correct and I agree with every word. When even shit like Oppenheimer has gratuitous explicit sex scenes, with one of the most unlikeable and shittily written female characters ever to boot, something is deeply rotten in the mainstream media "meta". Who wants to watch that shit?

As far as romance novels are concerned, if there is any concrete description of tab A entering slot B, it's porn. You could write a perfectly good and meaningful sex scene without that, but when the sole intent is to titillate...
 
I remember the time that everyone was gushing over 50 shades of grey, i was curious and read a few pages. Sometimes i see the ghosts of my forefathers who where ignorant of all this and it makes me very jealous.
 
Shlickfic has been in grocery stores and retailers for decades. My local grocery store chain had Fifty Shades of Grey in the checkout aisles to buy several years ago. This is nothing new. Made me chuckle a decade ago when wymynysts were shrieking about Maxim being in the magazine section but BDSM coomerfic was right next to candy meant for children.
 
I have never seen or heard about women reading erotica in public. Sounds like demoralization or the author's personal porn addiction.
 
I will never, ever forget how I saw a hijab'd chick sitting with family in mcdonalds, watching some kinda thing that had actual porn scene. Turkish series of some sort?
I was so weirded out I immediately relayed it to my sis (whom I was on the phone with cause she wanted something). And obligatory "weeb chicks wearing yaoi buttons with fornicating dudes years before first ahegao hoodie crawled out of primordial slime".
Women?
Or
woMEN?
Have you ever seen those fanfic zines from 70s, long before troondom?

Fuck you. You don't have to be a woman to be into this shit, ever heard of letters to Penthouse? There are two times in my life when I found out I had defied social conventions by complete accident as I had an interest in something that was apparently insanely popular with women: true crime podcasts and erotica.
Will never cease to amaze me how woman will be into this, then say guy liking it is "red flag".

I hope you have not suffered(
You mean trannies that LARP as women. That's more believable. Also maybe some unhinged middle-aged hormonal wine moms, sure.
Ah, you never talk to women.

The funniest part of this whole discussion is that anyone believes anything written in Vice.
They have not lied this time

I have never seen or heard about women reading erotica in public. Sounds like demoralization or the author's personal porn addiction.
You just never considered that these boring romance books have it.
 
Will never cease to amaze me how woman will be into this, then say guy liking it is "red flag".

I hope you have not suffered(

Yeah, no shit. I haven't suffered because I've never told anyone in real life about it and with good reason. The lovely ladies of mumsnet were going on about the joys of literotica but complaining about all the stories that were obviously written by men because of all the creepy descriptions of women's bodies and how just reading men's creepy fantasies made their skin crawl.

Jesus fucking christ, do you have any idea how much creepy M/M shit us M/F and F/F lovers sometimes have to wade through to find our fix? You're having the vapours about shit like "her pert pink nipples jutted out defiantly from her glorious tits" and "her juices flowed from her tight little honeypot down her creamy inner thighs". Meanwhile I'm over here dodging omegaverse mpreg shit with guys pooping full grown babies out their asshole. And let's be clear here: M/M shit is written and read almost exclusively by heterosexual women. Actual gay guys don't give a flying fuck.

Creep shaming is becoming the male equivalent of slut shaming. Hey kiwiterfs, I know a lot of you are or were members of that forum and I'm calling you out. Do you agree with this? Surely you must acknowledge men have the right to some form of sexuality, even if just in the privacy of our own heads and hands?
 
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I think anything that depicts sex be it written, drawn, photographed or videotaped is porn. Anything that exists to have scenes with sex in them is porn.
Nah. It's extremely rare, but it's possible for works to depict sex scenes without a erotic intent, the context could be either comedic or disturbing. It's rather easy to tell when and debunk "akchually this machine gun jackhammer scene has a message" excuses
it's not really fair to switch from talking about a romance novel to full out videotaped sex because both men and women view them differently. they're both pornography, but because women's porn isn't as obvious as what men like seeing they get away with reading outright smut in full view of the public

women will get mad at men for watching vanilla porn with attractive, young women and then read rape/murder slash fics on the bus, but because it's words instead of pictures it's better for some reason
But the thing is that even "vanilla" crap has some fucked up undertones, porn is porn.
Reminder that women are the primary consumers of extremely violent rape/torture porn.
It depends. The extreme fetish crap aimed at women tells, not shows the insanity, while the male-oriented counterpart shows it fully.
I don't think there is any significant difference in demographics, but in social acceptance because of misogyny and sheeit. It's easy to find women that powerlevel about their fantasy of being choked by some androgynous dude, but you won't find a coomer mentioning his tastes in ryona that quickly due to the double standards.
The "hybristophilia" meme is a manosphere cope, mostly.
 
We can compromise by banning both furries and whamen from being in public without an owner present to hold their leash.
Leashing furries in public isn't a compromise, it's furtopia and you're sus for having suggested it.
>compromising on furries

Nope, the most I’ll compromise is bear baiting with furries in the fursuits and a starved Polar bear. You kill furries and society loses a lot of people it doesn’t really need.
 
Like the autistic people who program software for Lockheed Martin.
Listen, odds are they aren’t better at doing it than anyone else. They just don’t have kids and will work without complaining as long as you agree to let them cut their dick off (which means you don’t have to pay their pension in a few years).
 
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