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Why Are Women Reading and Listening to Porn in Public?

Subtle romance novel covers and erotic audio apps make it easier than ever. Is that a good thing?

By Magdalene Taylor
19 January 2024, 4:34pm


Erotic novels have always been women’s domain. All those old paperbacks featuring a Fabio-esque shirtless man riding a horse in front of a castle you used to see at your grandma’s house — those were all smut. “Romance” novels are often just a nicer term for books about a woman getting dicked down, and the covers betrayed that. But as of late, the genre has taken on a new life. Paired with audiobooks and audio storytelling apps, women’s erotic content is more popular than ever. Not only that, women are conspicuously consuming it in mundane, public situations… and that’s kind of weird?

Several of the most popular, bestselling books of the last two years have been erotic, at least in part. Novels by Colleen Hoover, which are “rich with graphic sex scenes,” have dominated the New York Times bestseller charts with several weeks-long No. 1 spots. That these books are so popular in real life is, unsurprisingly, linked to their popularity online. On Booktok, one of TikTok’s largest communities, videos devoted to highlighting “spicy” content like Hoover’s are among the highest-viewed on the hashtag. Booktok has been critical in the success of romance/erotic books—not only in promoting the specific books themselves but in “normalizing” reading them. When videos of everyday women wearing Skims and slickbacked buns describing their favorite literary sex scenes go viral and the comments sections are filled with women who look the same, the implicit message for the viewer is that it’s all totally ordinary.


Unlike the Fabio days, today’s biggest romance/erotic books have entirely nondescript covers. They’re covers that you wouldn’t think twice about if you saw them prominently displayed at the airport or in the hands of a colleague on their lunch break. Many of the more recent paperbacks appear no different than any other mass-market novel, replete with some floral motifs and large condensed minimalist fonts. Even older erotic novels are having their covers entirely recalibrated, replacing men who had perfectly chiseled abs with illustrations of women in mom jeans and messy buns. While women online seem perfectly happy to admit to routinely listening to or reading narrative sex scenes, their books’ covers suggest that, somewhat fairly, they don’t want the strangers around them to know it as it’s happening.

Meanwhile, apps like Dipsea and Quinn have capitalized on the erotica market through audio. Both feature women-focused explicit stories, ranging from intricate romances to something along the lines of straight-up dirty talk. Some are undoubtedly meant to be used for masturbation, while others may be more of a slow burn. Regardless, these apps and erotic novels can in many ways be interpreted like porn—in fact, articles explaining why women like erotica often explicitly detail why women prefer erotica instead of pornography. And thanks to headphones and subtle covers, they can be consumed anytime, anywhere.

Erotica may have some benefits beyond just being horny and hot. A 2022 study from the Journal of Sex Research found that women who read the genre have 74 percent more sex than those who don’t. Cool! It’s good for people to have sex. And perhaps these women are truly pressed for time, busy with all the other responsibilities of a career or family or relationship, so their morning commute may be the only opportunity they have to indulge!

Still, would we not consider it strange, at minimum, for a man to be doing the same? To be reading or listening to this content in the company of others? I get it, I get it—erotica isn’t quite the same thing as viewing hardcore pornography; women’s sexualities are often deprioritized; men’s sexuality has the possibility of being more threatening; etc. At the end of the day, I want women to enjoy erotica and enjoy their sexuality. Maybe, though, the end of the day is exactly the right time for it, in the privacy of your own home. Get your rocks off, ladies. Just not in public.
 
that's not porn

edit - well, i guess it could be depending on your definition.

There's a lot of feminists decrying men jerking it to pornhub but insist when they serve themselves a nice refreshing glass of the ol' hand shandy while reading some shitty slashfic it's completely different because erotica is in no way porn and the women in those nasty videos are completely objectified and defined by their body parts whereas in erotica there is a focus on characters thoughts and feelings and bla de blah de fucking blah.

Bull. Fucking. Shit. Erotica is porn. If the only reason something exists, the only reason it was brought into this world was to help people get their rocks off, then it's porn. All of those characters thoughts and feelings in the shitty M/M lemons you're so fond of like:

"Oh I just love the little squeals he makes while I ram my huge throbbing member deep into his cute spankable little ass" thought Bendidict Cumberbatch's version of Sherlock Holmes as he ploughed Martin Freeman's version of John Watson harder than a runaway freight train".

The only reason those exist is because the author was frigging herself silly to them. Doesn't get more objectifying than that.

Erotica is porn. End of fucking discussion.
 
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There's a lot of feminists decrying men jerking it to pornhub but insist when they serve themselves a nice refreshing glass of the ol' hand shandy while reading some shitty slashfic it's completely different because erotica is in no way porn and the women in those nasty videos are completely objectified and defined by their body parts whereas in erotica there a focus on characters thoughts and feelings and bla de blah de fucking blah.

Bull. Fucking. Shit. Erotica is porn. If the only reason something exists, the only reason it was brought into this world was to help people get their rocks off, then it's porn. All of those characters thoughts and feelings in the shitty M/M lemons you're so fond of like:

"Oh I just love the little squeals he makes while I ram my throbbing member deep into his cute spankable little ass" thought Bendidict Cumberbatch's version of Sherlock Holmes as he ploughed Martin Freeman's version of John Watson harder than a runaway freight train".

The only reason those exist is because the author was frigging herself silly to them. Doesn't get more objectifying than that.

Erotica is porn. End of fucking discussion.
The way I see porn is that it involves some level of dehumanization. At what point does something erotic become pornographic? I guess the dividing line would be in the details which a lot of those literotica stories cross.
 
You mean trannies that LARP as women. That's more believable. Also maybe some unhinged middle-aged hormonal wine moms, sure.
Violent porn where the woman gets beat up and force fucked against her will is most popular among women, just look at 50 shades, that's basically the entire plot of that book. Kiwis are too quick to point the finger at the trannoid even when it is in fact the femoid who is at fault.
 
You don't have to be a woman to be into this shit, ever heard of letters to Penthouse?
there's a difference between a made up sexual encounter that's like two pages max, sandwiched between dozens of pictures of naked women, and a full length novel that is hundreds of pages and has like four small pages of actual sex

this news story is about the giant novels that women and gay men consume which are easy to hide as "erotica" instead of the smut it actually is. i don't think it applies to the kind of written porn men are into
 
Erotica and porn were never the same. I guess the difference between them got absolutely blurred when 50 Shades was published and a lot of women assumed badly written porn was the same as erotica, despite 50 Shades being the most unerotic story ever written.

Okay, I'd be interested to see what you think of the little rant I posted previously. How exactly are you defining porn here?
 
There's a lot of feminists decrying men jerking it to pornhub but insist when they serve themselves a nice refreshing glass of the ol' hand shandy while reading some shitty slashfic it's completely different because erotica is in no way porn and the women in those nasty videos are completely objectified and defined by their body parts whereas in erotica there is a focus on characters thoughts and feelings and bla de blah de fucking blah.
To be fair, while I'd probably consider erotica a subgenre of porn if anything, there is a bit of a difference between jerking off to actual people versus jerking off to poorly written Sherlock porn written by some lady with way too much time on her hands.
Something like hentai or a erogame though, then I agree that it's basically the same thing, purple prose or not.
 
To be fair, while I'd probably consider erotica a subgenre of porn if anything, there is a bit of a difference between jerking off to actual people versus jerking off to poorly written Sherlock porn written by some lady with way too much time on her hands.
Something like hentai or a erogame though, then I agree that it's basically the same thing, purple prose or not.

Goddamn it, I was waiting with anticipation to drop the "oh if it's porn because it's real people then I guess hentai isn't porn then" bomb but you just completely cockblocked me. Well ninja'd my friend, well ninja'd.
 
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there's a difference between a made up sexual encounter that's like two pages max, sandwiched between dozens of pictures of naked women, and a full length novel that is hundreds of pages and has like four small pages of actual sex

All right, let's explore this shall we? Boot up pornhub and find a video. Nothing fancy, we'll keep it simple, just a quick five minute video of a man and woman fucking while the camera focuses lovingly on their bodies. I think we can all agree this is porn, right?

Now imagine the following scenario: a movie director hires those two actors to star as the leads in his new romantic film. An epic tale of forbidden love where the rich privileged girl falls in love with the penniless stable lad and her family are shocked and appalled and they are forced to elope to preserve their precious true love, a passion so great it'll scorch the very pages of history itself and blah de blah, you get the idea.

Anyway, we reach the part where they finally consummate their forbidden love and we cut to...that exact same pornhub video. That exact one, not a thing has been changed. The scene ends, the story continues, they convince the girls family to see the true man inside that penniless stable lad, they all live happily ever after or whatever the fuck.

Now think about it very carefully and answer me the following question: does that scene still count as porn?
 
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Anyway, we reach the part where they finally consummate their forbidden love and we cut to...that exact same pornhub video.
it's not really fair to switch from talking about a romance novel to full out videotaped sex because both men and women view them differently. they're both pornography, but because women's porn isn't as obvious as what men like seeing they get away with reading outright smut in full view of the public

women will get mad at men for watching vanilla porn with attractive, young women and then read rape/murder slash fics on the bus, but because it's words instead of pictures it's better for some reason
 
women will get mad at men for watching vanilla porn with attractive, young women and then read rape/murder slash fics on the bus, but because it's words instead of pictures it's better for some reason

That'll only get you so far. There was a famously horrific Power Rangers fanfic back in the day that used to get passed around as a sort of "see how much of this you can read before you throw up" kind of challenge on the shock sites. A piece of fiction so insanely disturbing that it was actually banned by the government of Australia. That's right, if the Oz pigs catch you with this particular Word document on your hard drive you're heading straight for the slammer. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the full immaculate glory of:

Agony In Pink

In which Kimberly, the original pink power ranger, is raped and tortured to death in lovingly exquisite detail over the course of eight chapters. Enjoy!
 
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