💪 Tough Guys Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

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Sicko Hunter said:
I have a question for you guys do you think one of Patrick's relatives has ever texted him and in a drunken haze he auto responded with his canned "YOU HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED MANY TIMES STALKER" shit?
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Why is that even in doubt? Of course he has
 
cerulean hydra said:
late edit: there isn't anything inherently wrong with discovery writing the way patrick does, just don't consider your first draft a finished product that only needs minor tweaks. Plotting and outlining are just tools to get unstuck and tell better stories.
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That is something with both writing styles I mentioned, but especially bottom up, or discovery writing as you call it. Bottom up is good if your creative, but when you take breaks ( because crazy wild inspiration is driven in bursts), coming back means you'll have rust for a bit, or you want to change things.

You NEED to have a humble attitude towards your beta readers and editors if this is your style, because while it may be a highly creative product with loads of good ideas, it WILL be janky like a Bethesda game on the first pass. Edits are extremely required to make it work
 
Sicko Hunter said:
I have a question for you guys do you think one of Patrick's relatives has ever texted him and in a drunken haze he auto responded with his canned "YOU HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED MANY TIMES STALKER" shit?
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I doubt that Pat's family actually text him very often. I also doubt he needs to be drunk at all to tell them that
 
Sicko Hunter said:
I have a question for you guys do you think one of Patrick's relatives has ever texted him and in a drunken haze he auto responded with his canned "YOU HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED MANY TIMES STALKER" shit?
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Its probably already happened. That's why he doesn't get invited to many family functions and gets cropped out of christmas cards
 
Re: Duolingo

Despite having a whopping 65k "experience points" in Spanish, Patrick S. Tomlinson struggles to even insult xeeters in the language of Cervantes. It's a damning endorsement of the app, even if you aren't supposed to use it as your sole study source.
 
BrazilianDog said:
Re: Duolingo

Despite having a whopping 65k "experience points" in Spanish, Patrick S. Tomlinson struggles to even insult xeeters in the language of Cervantes. It's a damning endorsement of the app, even if you aren't supposed to use it as your sole study source.
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I have never used it myself but I want to point out one shouldn't rush to judgment on the app's educational efficacy. Patrick is very fat and very retarded so anything faces a massive uphill battle to teach him.
 
BrazilianDog said:
Re: Duolingo

Despite having a whopping 65k "experience points" in Spanish, Patrick S. Tomlinson struggles to even insult xeeters in the language of Cervantes. It's a damning endorsement of the app, even if you aren't supposed to use it as your sole study source.
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Rick is also a literal retard.

I mean it doesn't say much for the app when literal retards like Rick have such a high "score" with it but I doubt anything could do much for a chromohomo like Rick. He can't even speak English correctly half the time. "Plane of the eclectic" lmao.
 
cerulean hydra said:
This is something that is different for everybody, it seems. Admittedly, I am a novice, and others like @WelperHelper99 will be able to give much better advice.

But what works well for me is having a beginning, an end, motivations for the main characters (wants/needs), and then breaking it into four quarters, i.e. W happens in the first quarter, then X happens in the second leading to the mid point, Y leads up to the climax, where Z happens. It's fractal in nature, so if I am uncertain about something, I can just break one of those quarters down into four quarters to flesh it out.

My brain doesn't like detailed outlines, but some people will write every scene they have planned on an index card. Others will write out a list of key moments, like frames on a story board. I think the bare minimum is knowing your beginning, middle, and end. You can often tell when a writer has shit out a first draft without knowing their ending at the start.

For a mystery novel specifically, I've seen advice to map it out. Create tables and timelines that state where characters are at what exact times, because consistency is important. I've never sat down to try and write one, though.

late edit: there isn't anything inherently wrong with discovery writing the way patrick does, just don't consider your first draft a finished product that only needs minor tweaks. Plotting and outlining are just tools to get unstuck and tell better stories.
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I'd describe the way I tackle plotting as akin to how I tackle a jigsaw puzzle, get the edge pieces in place (the opening, the ending, main character concept and thematic through line to follow) so I know what the connecting pieces look like and then build inwards. Though I definitely also have a tendency of having a lot of disconnected cool scenes that I like and shave off to find a way to fit them in.

As long as you have a foundation to pull from, the journey of the plot and characters should just come naturally as a 'Well, I want to get here, and I can use this as an excuse to show off 'x' that plays into 'y' theme.' sort of deal. You leave a lot of connective tissue and you'll probably see a lot of easy ways to put the pieces together. Hell, while writing out my first draft, I was going through the notes of my current WIP and realized how boring my antagonist was. Dude was just a 'I hate humans and really like killing them' guy who was just there to be an obstacle for the main characters to fight, but since I already knew where I was taking everything and what thematic elements I wanted to emphasize, it was easier to adjust the framing and spruce up his scenes using those elements as a springboard.
 
Fatrick is both malformed and maladjusted. Like a fat, bent Bonsai.

I understand the TMI stickers, but to simplify my point, no one ever checked Pat's behavior before law enforcement and the courts had to do so. He was always shielded by his mommy from both consequence and correction. He even managed to get the mythical "financial abortion" MRA's screech about.
This has become an extremely expensive mistake, and I feel bad for his MIL.
 
ZipDisk said:
Fatrick is both malformed and maladjusted. Like a fat, bent Bonsai.

I understand the TMI stickers, but to simplify my point, no one ever checked Pat's behavior before law enforcement and the courts had to do so. He was always shielded by his mommy from both consequence and correction. He even managed to get the mythical "financial abortion" MRA's screech about.
This has become an extremely expensive mistake, and I feel bad for his MIL.
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I almost agree, but for feeling bad for MIL. At this point it’s likely she’s shelled out tens of thousands of dollars between vacations, business subsidies where PBG fell short, settling the quasi fines, and god only knows what else. With the most recent domestication, the shitfic he picked back up and won’t stfu about, and pat’s desperate and unusual Twitter activity, it almost feels as if Lynn has kicked her feet up finally and washed her hands. I hope I’m right, if so it’ll be interesting watching Pat scramble for solutions. Generally the MILs that clean up behind people like Nikki and Pat do so because there are kids involved. How pathetic that Lynn had to step in for Twitter spats. I’d bet that Lynn has grandchildren and great nieces and nephews she loves seeing who don’t need as much tard wrangling as the Tomlinsons.
 
These BlueAnon theories get wackier every day.

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TheAmbiguousLurker said:
I'd describe the way I tackle plotting as akin to how I tackle a jigsaw puzzle, get the edge pieces in place (the opening, the ending, main character concept and thematic through line to follow) so I know what the connecting pieces look like and then build inwards. Though I definitely also have a tendency of having a lot of disconnected cool scenes that I like and shave off to find a way to fit them in.
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Stephen R. Donaldson (the Thomas Covenant dude yes I know) described his plotting process as deciding where the story ends and then plotting it to get there. That is, start from the end. Whatever else you think of Donaldson, plotting was one of his strengths.
 
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These BlueAnon theories get wackier every day.

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It's great how fast they turn people they hated just a few months ago into heroes just because the wrong people dislike them. Or because they've made up some nonsense about who hates them. Kevin McCarthy goes from bringing about fascism with his every breath to based defiant Putin opposition who had to be taken out to stop the ONE THING that matters (this week) to the great battle between Good and Evil that I'm totally part of by telling people to enjoy prison on Twitter.
 
Is it just me or has he not been saying "child" as much anymore? Maybe I'm just out of the loop but it seems like he hasn't. Maybe he realized it was such an ineffective insult, since people were excited when they found the first public instance of him using it.
 
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