💰 Grifter Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

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I for one learned that boogie does not just have one but two meat curtains. I would think the smell is bad enough going under 1 meat curtain but that 2nd one is so close to his scrotal sac... just gross. I hate boogie so much
 
WaveBreak said:
I agree it does fit in with boogies narrative he was spinning earlier.
But why would mike go along with it?
I guess to get more content?
I can tell Mike is a talented guy, but he didn't know what the fuck he was doing here. He saw the Sunnyv2 vid and wanted to do the same thing. But sunny works because he roasts boogie. If you work together with boogie you will have to be manipulated, at least a bit. It's impossible because there's nothing but lies that you can work with. There is no truth. So good fucking luck telling the "real story", we will never know the real story because EVERYTHING boogie says is a lie. Literally everything. and you can't even just flip what he's saying, because he lies in multiple ways about the same thing.

Good thing is, it's only up from here with mike. I have more respect for the hobo who tried to sell me a stolen bike 10 minutes ago so he can buy crack than I have for boogs. By a long shot.
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right. clum is definitely talented when it comes to film production but at the end of the day it's still his very first piece of youtube content and he has a lot to learn. I will admit, I admire the fact that he actually got off of his ass to film original content with boogie instead of relying on everything already out there that we've seen before, but as a result he leaned in too far taking boogie's word at face value and didn't really supplement anything with his own research to challenge boogie's bullshit face to face. clum valued entertainment over the truth. that was his choice for his documentary's vision, but it proved to be dangerous waters to tread when dealing with a manipulator like boogie and now the end product is filled with bullshit lies that can easily be picked apart and criticized. lesson learned.

I refuse to believe boogie would have agreed to do this documentary if there wasn't an agreement that he could have some level of control what was or wasn't shown and said. if sunnyv2, joon the king, christopher tom, or that darn irish man hit up boogie to fly down to film a documentary, do you think he would have agreed? fuck no, because he knows those guys are more interested in factual information. boogie loved clum so much because clum was naive and malleable.
 
We heard about some potential Boogie / Keemstar drama the other day. Well, here it is (TLDR version below, full screenshots in spoiler). And btw I want to preface this post by saying that Dezi isn't 18. There's been enough solid info uncovered about Dezi that it's safe to conclude she's 20:

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It appears that this is some kind of Youtuber group chat. Lol @ at Mutahar immediately saying that Boogie is paying for Dezi. This is what most people think, Boogie! They don't think you're a gigachad:

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Oh yeah, here's the tweet he deleted yesterday:

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YaBoi said:
And btw I want to preface this post by saying that Dezi isn't 18. There's been enough solid info uncovered about Dezi that it's safe to conclude she's 20
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I am convinced that Boogie must have told Keemstar/Brantley/KBaC about Dezi and claimed she was 18 instead of her real age, because in his weird fucked up brain it's some kind of flex that she's so much younger than he is. He didn't expect who he probably considers his 'friends' to out his bullshit publicly like Brantley did, lucky for him he's just a weirdo creep and was able to actually produce a 20 year old. Let's also not forget that he supposedly didn't just try to flex that she was 18, but also that she was a virgin which TBH would actually make her comment in the Clum doc about Boogie being 'her best' entirely true LOL. I find it pretty convenient that it's only the age he supposedly bragged about that gets addressed, and not the virginity claim.

I remember someone tweeted asking Brantley very pointedly about this situation when it first happened, and she definitely never denied that Boogie was initially bragging about Dezi being 20. It's more of this influencer word game playing, she can say that Dezi is 20 now that she's seen ID but that doesn't also mean that Boogie didn't lie to them initially about her age. I'm a little confused why Keem/Brantley wouldn't nail him on this, my guess is that he sees Boogie as a potential content source long-term and doesn't want to burn that bridge?


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Just wanted to say the bit after the employment office where he sends Mike a voice note and is like, "I just wanted to let you know, that I'm not going to.... what I'm going to do instead is go back to making content, go back to telling stories and entertaining people, and making money doing it"
Thats Boogie2988, Thats Steven Williams, that is where it feels like Mike put him in without the mask. Just a manipulative ass and if you are giving him any hard pressure he tries to "Power Move" and talk about all of his subs and OG YouTube shit.
And didn't a post above say he is supposed to be gainfully employed to stay out on the suspended sentence?
 
It always blows my mind how this guy managed to fuck up the easiest job ever.

Imagine you get paid to fucking drink Mountain Dew and play video games. That's all he had to do. Every time he has a pity party or says "I might have to work again :(" people always say dude just talk about video games. Please just go back to gaming. And he never does.

Can you imagine being too lazy to play fucking video games?? This guy spent $200 on games in a month and didn't produce a second of content, even a lazy twitch stream, on any of them?

This dude's job is literally just lying, complaining, and doing and talking about weird nasty shit. People like him were meant to be naturally selected. Being a disgusting freak and lying about getting raped should not pay more than being a doctor.

@RedZaku if that part wasn't scripted, wow he just showed the world how much of a piece of shit he is. 50 year old man throwing a fucking tantrum about being told to get a job. Love the passive aggressive bullshit at the end. "I'll see you in a few months. Okay?"

He's so entitled, he really is a fucking brat. "I shouldn't have to get a job I'm an OG YouTuber" we're almost his exact words. I have never seen a 50 year old act like this.

ETA: was reading back on page 2187, @YaBoi found an old Reddit post where Boogie justified accepting large donations and his toy habit. 45 year old married fucking man saying "the toys you see in my videos make the money back" LMAO this guy is beyond pathetic. He said he donates most of his toys to Salvation Army and children's homes. HAHAHAHA how did anyone ever fall for this fat pedophile's bullshit?
 
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To me he was acting like someone on a small dose, maybe 1.5 grams of cubensis for a regular weight person. You get the giggles, but no real visuals and certainly you don't get high enough to experience the "ego death". As you noted, when you are that high verbal communication is almost impossible. He was acting, badly, as he always is.
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He's so utterly full of bullshit. I used to chew up an eighth of the things (7 grams) when I was at a normal weight and didn't ever experience "ego death." It took sucking on a toothbrush dipped in (diluted) liquid LSD to render me completely non-verbal for hours.

And not that I'm saying Boogie should. A guy that disgusting who had to look at himself the way he truly is would immediately kill himself.

Or what am I saying? Yeah he totally SHOULD do that.
 
We learn boogie has hypogonadism which corresponds with his use of testerone. Even if he uses HAMS, he probably has erectile dysfunction and can't produce much sperm. This would explain why he gets so insecure when people bring up his lack of children. He is using prostitutes and porn to compensate.
 
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We learn boogie has hypogonadism which corresponds with his use of testerone. Even if he uses HAMS, he probably has erectile dysfunction and can't produce much sperm. This would explain why he gets so insecure when people bring up his lack of children. He is using prostitutes and porn to compensate.
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ThatDarnIrishMan referred to him as having 'little baby balls' in reference to this on stream last night and I'm still giggling over it today.
 
My theory on Boogie's origin story is his parent's were probably pretty neglectful, but not physically or sexually abusive to HIM. I bet his dad was molesting his sister on the reg, Boogie used that to inspire his lies and the daddy daughter thing became his fetish. Daddy would rape sissy, mommy would throw Boogie a box of twinkies and cry, older brother kept his head down and focused on life outside of the house. Overall, Boogie was ignored, which is why he needs so much attention now. There is no way he was raped. No rape victim would lay flowers and respects at their perp mother's grave. That's just asinine lol. I've seen a lot of shitty people die, people a whole lot less shitty than rapists, and NO ONE ever visits their grave.

I am also confused about Boogie's coal miner father, as coal mining mostly ended in Appalachia in the mid 1940s, likely when his father was born. Maybe he did gem mining or something. So many lies here its unreal.
 
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We learn boogie has hypogonadism which corresponds with his use of testerone. Even if he uses HAMS, he probably has erectile dysfunction and can't produce much sperm. This would explain why he gets so insecure when people bring up his lack of children. He is using prostitutes and porn to compensate.
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Unreliable narrator but according to Boogie had had to drop the TRT "therapy" because of the blood cancer. So yea, I'd be surprised how much of a sex drive he even has as a low T, morbidly obese 49 year old.
 
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In the scene where Boogie has friends over, he lets slip at 15:02 that he has been bringing hookers around for these routine game nights at his house for years. Boogie has always denied accusations that he's ever paid for hookers or even "escorts". Only in recent years has he admitted to "sugaring" women after being confronted with overwhelming proof. While this documentary did not reveal much new info, him copping to actually hiring hookers straight up was at least something fresh.

I'm sure he's hired many hookers, but I don't think he's exactly lying when he's emphasized that he prefers the "sugar daddy" lifestyle either. I think that sugar babies accompanying him to events, trips, amusement parks, etc. and the fake emotional attachment that comes with that partial "girlfriend experience" is likely a large part of it for him. Even to Boogie, could HAMS alone ever be worth $200k? If you were to ask peers of his like Keemstar, KidBehindACamera, McJuggerNuggets, etc. if they've often seen Boogie paying for the company of sugar babies, I'm sure they'd all answer yes. It removes any doubt that Boogie was the supplier of hookers at Jesse's party which he was kicked out of for instance.

While it was plainly obvious to all of us at the time, this should also answer the question that the GraveGhoul was one of these sugar babies. She was more than an escort in that they traveled together, she was included on his streams, she acted in his videos, etc. He did what he's done with many of these girls in the past which is promise to lend his inflated clout and boost their OnlyFans/social media presence. The last time I checked, GraveGhoul's eWhore Patreon account was bringing in $9/month. She also hated him, which was plainly obvious on his streams and videos, especially during the Colorado trip. While Boogie may not have met Dez 2 on Seeking Arrangements like the others, their relationship is very similar to the one he had with Grave Ghoul. Remember that she was a single mother who lived out of state, Missouri, I believe.

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It's interesting to think about how many of the trips Boogie has taken in the last few years were either with sugar babies, or a pretense to meet sugar babies who were located across the country. I think about trips like those he took to NYC in November, 2019. After all, the first thing he emphasizes when explaining where the $200k~ went is the trips he's taken with sugar babies. Boogie likes to pretend that he is totally vulnerable and his entire life is fully on display to the internet. It seems as though at least for a time he was smart enough to keep the explicit sugar daddy lifestyle off-camera and away from the view of his followers. The whole idea of hookers, escorts, Seeking, and sugaring clearly takes up much of his headspace as it's been his #2 joke for years behind Mountain Dew. I'm also reminded of the time he "joked" about being ripped off by a hooker from Houston when he was at a Retropalooza event.

Whenever Boogie has in the past bragged about what a great guy he is, his go-to answer has always been him helping out friends with rent, car payments, bills, etc. He made a big deal about how generous he was to his friends offering to cover payments like these over COVID especially. I think it's safe to say that these weren't to friends at the gaming store, but rather where much of that $200k~ paid to sugar babies went.

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I can't find the clip, but it was of a newly divorced Boogie recollecting on his relationship with his ex-wife Dez. He was bragging about what a great life he was able to provide for her, and his list of what this meant went something like "I took her to DisneyLand, all these cool events, I took her to VidCon, introduced her to famous YouTubers", etc. It's kind of funny because that seems to be exactly what he was getting out of his experience with sugar babies, beyond the expected HAMS.

From his video when he originally admitted to spending $100k+ on sugar babies:
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@Hotel in Minsk, yes, it completely, 100% confirms he brought hookers to Jesse's house and was being a total creep with them (even for a John) and that's why they had their falling out. How much of a fucking idiot do you have to be to lose the business relationship with someone much more successful because you not only brought hookers to his house, you also were like having them do sex acts in the house?

He's the world's most pathetic sex addict, incapable of actual PIV sex but willing to throw thousands of dollars away and business relationships to make it seem like he's a chad.
 
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Can't tell if I'm disappointed or not that Clum didn't bring up the farms.
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I'm glad he didn't.
His job was to paint Saint Boogie, not show his true colours. He came in here looking for an enemy he could use to make Boogie look good and justify the claims of victimhood and the target of lies and harassment, and instead he found a bunch of well thought out threads backed with evidence.
It was near the end of his filming too, when you can see he'd realized Boogie's narrative was bullshit, I'm glad no one here took him up on his offer to talk through DMs.
 
thejackal2 said:
@Hotel in Minsk, yes, it completely, 100% confirms he brought hookers to Jesse's house and was being a total creep with them (even for a John) and that's why they had their falling out. How much of a fucking idiot do you have to be to lose the business relationship with someone much more successful because you not only brought hookers to his house, you also were like having them do sex acts in the house?

He's the world's most pathetic sex addict, incapable of actual PIV sex but willing to throw thousands of dollars away and business relationships to make it seem like he's a chad.
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No you don't get it. Boogie only spent $200k on hookers in 3 years. The two half naked drunk hookers fooling around in front of him as he watched and recorded were totally not his hookers. He's a nice guy, you don't understand. He did it to help their rent and even put one through nursing school! Mr. Rogers would NEVER bring hookers to a family Halloween party and sit creepily in the corner smiling while they finger each other!
 
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With his financial situation and chronic unpopularity how long til he ends up starting an OF with Dezi and profiting off of sickos who have a thing for fat ugly men fucking meth addicts?
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Less than six months.

That scene of them frolicking together in the bath was practically promo to test the waters (pun not intended).
 
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From his video when he originally admitted to spending $100k+ on sugar babies:
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Listen man, I've never paid for sex, but I can at least understand doing it. Ugly fuckers or criminally insufferable fucks or sentient tubs of lard paying a woman for a go at her mushy bits makes sense in my head. What I cannot understand at all is paying exorbitant amounts of money just to have some cunt hang out with you and pretend to give a shit about you. The concept is completely foreign and bonkers to me.

Is it just me? Am I the weirdo here? I'd like someone to sanity check me.
 
thejackal2 said:
@Hotel in Minsk, yes, it completely, 100% confirms he brought hookers to Jesse's house and was being a total creep with them (even for a John) and that's why they had their falling out. How much of a fucking idiot do you have to be to lose the business relationship with someone much more successful because you not only brought hookers to his house, you also were like having them do sex acts in the house?

He's the world's most pathetic sex addict, incapable of actual PIV sex but willing to throw thousands of dollars away and business relationships to make it seem like he's a chad.
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The situation with Jesse might have been salvageable after enough time had passed but then Boogie had to go and act like a complete faggot when the “drama” between Jesse and that one tranny happened. All Boogie had to do was stay out of it but instead he joined the dog pile of people trying to get him cancelled and kept sperging out even long after the tranny himself had stopped posting.
 
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Listen man, I've never paid for sex, but I can at least understand doing it. Ugly fuckers or criminally insufferable fucks or sentient tubs of lard paying a woman for a go at her mushy bits makes sense in my head. What I cannot understand at all is paying exorbitant amounts of money just to have some cunt hang out with you and pretend to give a shit about you. The concept is completely foreign and bonkers to me.

Is it just me? Am I the weirdo here? I'd like someone to sanity check me.
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No I agree. I can't imagine enjoying "the girlfriend experience" knowing the entire time she was just saying what my money paid for. The thing is, these egomaniacs like Boogie actually think they can convince the hooker that they are a great guy, boyfriend material, if they just hang out a bit. In their demented brain they are alpha chads that any girl would die to be with, she just has to get to know him through prostitution or sugaring first.
 
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