Opinion Why Jews Cannot Stop Shaking Right Now

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Why Jews Cannot Stop Shaking Right Now
Oct. 22, 2023
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An illustration showing a grieving woman being comforted and a historical image of damaged scrolls.
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There is a reason so many Jews cannot stop shaking right now. The concept of intergenerational trauma doesn’t begin to describe the dark place into which this month’s attack plunged Jewish communities around the world.

On Oct. 7, a Jewish holiday, Hamas terrorists went house to house in southern Israel murdering and abducting children and grandparents, pulling them from their beds, displaying victims’ dead bodies online, in a massacre of at least 1,400 people. In at least one instance, terrorists were reported to have uploaded a video of the murder of one victim to her own social media account for her family to discover.

The feeling of deep dread that these atrocities stirred in Jews was horribly familiar. This is what Jewish history has all too often looked like: not civilians tragically killed in war but civilians publicly targeted, tortured and murdered, with the crimes put on public display. Accounts of past crowd-pleasing killings are folded into Jewish tradition; every Yom Kippur, we recount the public torture and execution of rabbis by their Roman oppressors in a packed second-century stadium. Those ancient stories are consistent with the experiences of the more immediate ancestors of nearly every Jew alive today.

I’m not even talking about the Holocaust, which several of last week’s oldest escapees and victims also endured. (Far more Jews were killed on Oct. 7 than on Kristallnacht.) No, I’m thinking of the Farhud pogrom in 1941 Baghdad, a two-day rampage in which hundreds of Jews were raped, tortured and murdered. I’m thinking of the pogroms of 1918 to 1921 in Ukraine, in which an estimated 100,000 Jews were slaughtered in organized massacres, reminiscent of this month’s attack.

I’m thinking of the lynching of Leo Frank in Georgia in 1915, after which the delighted crowd’s snapshots of Frank’s body were made into postcards mailed around the country and pieces of his clothing were sold as souvenirs. I’m thinking of how many of the earliest books off Europe’s first printing presses were about the executions of Jews accused of blood libel and of a 10th-century massacre of thousands of Jews in the Spanish caliphate encouraged by a poem calling for Jewish blood and of the paintings and illuminated manuscripts showing Jews who were burned alive by the Spanish Inquisition and during the Black Death — all crowd-pleasing events celebrated in popular media and art.

Even ancient Romans celebrated their destruction of Judea by issuing commemorative coins featuring a bound Jewish woman and inscribed with the words “Judaea capta.” The humiliation and murder of Jews have always made a great meme.

Many American Jews, like Jews around the world, are descendants of those who survived. Our ancestors, in one way or another, were the ones who either made lucky decisions or barely made it out alive from Lodz and Kyiv and Aleppo and Tehran.

For diaspora Jews, the recent attacks were not distant overseas events. As was true in ancient times, the ties between global Jewish communities and Israel are concrete, specific, intimate and personal. My New Jersey Jewish Federation has institutional ties with the southern Israeli town of Ofakim and its surrounding communities, sharing annual home stays with a place whose death toll from the attacks already exceeds that of the notorious Kishinev pogrom of 1903, in which 49 Jews were murdered. Millions of American Jews, not to mention Jews in Britain, France, Australia and elsewhere, have friends and relatives in Israel. Even if Hamas hadn’t made it clear that they see all Jews as targets, our connection is personal and all too real.

We spent days desperately scrolling to learn who among our acquaintances was dead, maimed or captive, connecting American hostages’ families with State Department contacts, attending panic-stricken online briefings and pooling resources and supplies for victims — all while fighting obtuse official statements from our own towns, schools, companies and universities that refused to mention the words “Israel” or “Jews” in referring to the largest single-day massacre of Jews since the Holocaust, lest some antisemite take offense at the existence of either.

We have tried to get our children off social media, shielding them from images of the violence. We’ve held mass fasts, recited psalms and sung ancient prayers for the rescue of captives. And as we gather by the thousands despite our many contradictory opinions and despite the extra security required for our gatherings even here, we have returned to the words of our ancestors that have carried us through thousands of years: Be strong and courageous. Choose life.

Many of us were physically carrying those words during the weekend of the attack, celebrating Simchat Torah, a joyous holiday when congregations dance with Torah scrolls, read the Torah’s final words and then scroll back to the beginning to start the book again.

As a child, I found this baffling. Why read the same story over and over, when we already know what happens? As an adult, I know that while the story doesn’t change, we do. What defines Jewish life is not history’s litany of horror but the Jewish people’s creative resilience in the face of it. In the wake of many catastrophes over millenniums, we have wrestled with God and one another, reinvented our traditions, revived our language, rebuilt our communities and found new meanings in our old stories of freedom and responsibility, each story animated by the improbable and unwavering belief that people can change.

Right now many of us feel trapped in this old, old story, doom-scrolling through images with terrible outcomes. But in our grief, I remind myself that each year as we finish the reading of the Torah, we immediately, at that very moment — and at the moment of this newest, oldest horror — scroll back to the story of creation and the invention of universal human dignity. We recall, once again, that every human is made in the divine image.

The story continues; we begin again.

Dara Horn is the author of five novels and the essay collection “People Love Dead Jews.”

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Two groups.
Same country.

Blacks
- Did not get 40 Acres and a Mule from their goverment abusing them for 400 years.
- Forced to do the same as Asians and Whites , with less materials, old and out of date textbooks.
- Served in the military , died for this country and was still segregated against.

Jews
- From Germany : An entire nation split in half to accommodate them because their goverment abused them for 7 years.
- From America: The right to vote the moment they got off the boat. Instantly higher on the racism totem pole than Asians. The right to own land, etc.
- From the World: Infinite protection from criticism.
I would watch this movie….
 
"Intergenerational trauma" is a real thing, it just isn't what the author claims it is. It's like every other buzzword that's appropriated by opportunistic assholes begging for "empathy" and "raised awareness".

Intergenerational trauma is when you're a victim of abuse, because your parents were abuse victims and they're taking their rage on their parents out on you. The trauma has to actively be happening to you.

If it's just that something bad happened to your great-grandparents, and has realistically no chance of happening to you, that's just you being a neurotic narcissist that gets a buzz out of emotionally blackmailing people.
Just a reminder that the only reason why they’re pulling this is because they tried and failed to claim epigenetics. Basically claiming muh shoah trauma is innately part of their DNA. So Shoshanna Weinstein the 26 year old first year lawyer at a white shoe law firm making $200k a year with multimillionaire parents or Seth Rogen the highly paid and highly untalented actor are oppressed victims via DNA because of what probably didn’t happen to their great-grandparents.

It didn’t take off because even the most Jew friendly outlets couldn’t take their claim of continued trauma vis epigenetics very seriously. So now it’s intergenerational trauma instead.
 
The Vatican didn't recognize Israel until 1993, proving the Church of Pius X was long gone. Here's a whiny editorial from the 1980s...
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Well that was a mistake. Israel is an illegitimate state. For non-Catholics, the Pope is only infallible ex-cathedra and I think that has only been exercised twice? in 2000 years. This was not one of those cases.
 
Well, the lesson of the Golem is that it inevitably turns on its master.
Hey man, Golems are fucking cool mythology. Just think, a sculpted body made out of inanimate material, then it has words placed into it. It comes to life and will do tasks assigned to it.

They pretty much predicted robots, down to the reality that Robots do come to life via words, countless lines of programming.

Automatons have been dreamt of for ages of course, but usually all that was thought up was the physical mechanisms. I don't think there was any prediction that we'd develop programming languages until the 20th century.

Sorry I know this had nothing to do with your post, but Golems are a cool piece of folklore. And I don't think they turn on their creator they just will run amok if you're careless with them. Which again predates Asimov.
 
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Ahhh... Leo Frank. The rapist that tried to pin the blame on a black man only for whites and blacks to agree that he needs to go. Whose death created one of the most censorious groups the is influencing US politics, the ADL and have been dividing the country ever since.
Strike one for Sam Aronow was not acknowledging Jewish slave ship/plantation owners. Strike two was simping for Leo Frank. I'm sure we'll get strike three during Weimar Germany
 
And I don't think they turn on their creator they just will run amok if you're careless with them.
That's pretty much what's happening right now, isn't it?

More seriously and back to the topic at hand, the original Op-Ed posted is like the distilled essence of why there is antisemitism. Jesus Fucking Christ, man, no one likes a whiner, particularly one crying about his bloody nose after repeatedly insulting the guy who punched him.

Look, Israel has the power to just utterly wreck Palestine. They know it, we know it, the whole world knows it. They could just turn the Gaza strip to rubble, send troops in to wrangle the survivors onto leaky freighters at gunpoint and push them in the direction of Europe. Thing is, they always want it both ways. They want to have their Iron Age Kingdom restored, but they can't abide to being pariahs. Moishe, just fucking nut up, channel the Juche spirit of Kim Jong Un, and slaughter the Amelkites as you are wont to do. Take the fucking sanctions, take the fucking open disdain and see how self-reliant you truly are.

Oh and bring all your show-biz perverts, academic loons and funny-money financier co-ethnics home. Send them to boot camp or the West Bank. I don't give a shit, but it would immensely reduce antisemitism in the long-term.

Fuck man, just stop blowing smoke up people's asses and being so passive-aggressive. Mizrahim, Sephardim? Can you just tard-wrangle the fucking Ashkenazim already?
 
Oh and bring all your show-biz perverts, academic loons and funny-money financier co-ethnics home. Send them to boot camp or the West Bank. I don't give a shit, but it would immensely reduce antisemitism in the long-term.
But they don't want that. No matter how much they love Israel, they have no plan to move there ever.

Remember when there was this country saying they wanted to outlaw circumcision? At any moment they said "well, fuck it, I'd better move to a place where my religious freedom is respected". No, fuck it. "Better threaten the country into becoming touristic pariahs if they don't do as I want!"

Jews have power, more power than many countries in the world. I can't assure you no other country has the power to not only to ask them that much money, but also make them fight their wars for them. What they don't want is the world to see them as powerful because otherwise, they'd lose their status as perpetual victims. Any other group would be proud of saying "yes, we control (banks/movies/whatever)!"
 
That's pretty much what's happening right now, isn't it?

More seriously and back to the topic at hand, the original Op-Ed posted is like the distilled essence of why there is antisemitism. Jesus Fucking Christ, man, no one likes a whiner, particularly one crying about his bloody nose after repeatedly insulting the guy who punched him.

Look, Israel has the power to just utterly wreck Palestine. They know it, we know it, the whole world knows it. They could just turn the Gaza strip to rubble, send troops in to wrangle the survivors onto leaky freighters at gunpoint and push them in the direction of Europe. Thing is, they always want it both ways. They want to have their Iron Age Kingdom restored, but they can't abide to being pariahs. Moishe, just fucking nut up, channel the Juche spirit of Kim Jong Un, and slaughter the Amelkites as you are wont to do. Take the fucking sanctions, take the fucking open disdain and see how self-reliant you truly are.

Oh and bring all your show-biz perverts, academic loons and funny-money financier co-ethnics home. Send them to boot camp or the West Bank. I don't give a shit, but it would immensely reduce antisemitism in the long-term.

Fuck man, just stop blowing smoke up people's asses and being so passive-aggressive. Mizrahim, Sephardim? Can you just tard-wrangle the fucking Ashkenazim already?
That's the funny thing... they won't do it. Because the open secret is it's beneficial to have this constant existential threat.

Just think how many Billions the Israeli Defense Industry generating every year? Countries are buying the Iron Dome and now the Iron Sting mortar. They have constant proof of how effective these fancy machines are. Israel and its Asian cousin South Korea are 1st World countries thanks to the US Military Industrial Complex.

What would happen if the Utopian Peace Deal happened and we got "PEACE IN THE MIDEAST???" Stagnancy. They would bid Net And Yoohoo farewell and a Labor Party equivalent would return. No Terrorism means time to get lazy & socialist again. They would run head first into the Death of the West that Western Europe and so much of the USA faces. If it happened in Japan why wouldn't it happen in post conflict Israel?
 
"Muh intergenerational trauma". Binch, my great great grandmother ( and many other relatives) walked the trail of tears, you don't see my ass collapsing with sorrow everytime litter misses a trash can. Keep this shit up and 109 countries is going to be rounded up to 1 planet.
 
I swear this woman had an article on here earlier this year whining that Holocaust museums weren't doing enough, or something equally narcissistic and obnoxious. The kvetching never stops.
Just the title “People Love Dead Jews” causes an instantaneous eye roll whenever I see it. The sorest winners ever.
But they don't want that. No matter how much they love Israel, they have no plan to move there ever.
They have the right to return policy in place and can basically flee whenever. The modus operandi with a bunch of Jews in Eastern Europe is to rip them off as much as possible and then flee to Israel. Zelenskyyyyyy removed Ukrainian citizenship from several Jewish billionaires, who then promptly flew to Israel, over the last few years. No goy has that kind of protection.
 
We Catholics do commemorate her, but we don't have rallies against the Brits for it.

A better question would be, should Christians feel entitled to a resentment against Italians for being persecuted during the early days of Christianity? I don't know one single Christian who thinks this way because it's ridiculous. Same way there is not one single Jew who was part of the death of Jesus who is still alive... or if we go strictly political, not one single white person who slaved a black person is still alive.

If we Christians say that Rome (Italy) owes something for being persecuted, we'd been called ridiculous and with all reason, especially because Rome converted, which erases any blame.
I could say the same with Mormonism. Either I cope and seethe at every fucker on Xbox Live that asks if I have two moms even though that's been gone for over a century, or I just be a smart-ass and tell him I have 50.
Jews, otoh, haven't converted, so they are still the group that killed Jesus Christ, the one whose birth started current era and is still the most popular religion of the world. Of course they feel persecuted: not only they think we all are blasphemous who are following the wrong messiah, we're also up to avenge him. Not such case, nobody in my side thinks that way. Like I said, the Jews who accused him are long dead and buried. We are not the group that wants to kill them.
I pity them. Such anger at people who only think them fools.
 
some faggot who writes NYT opinion pieces to be writing a hand-wringing op-ed acting as if he's about to be thrown, pumpkin-spice latte and all, bodily from his office by a rampaging Palestinian.
This sentence is a thing of beauty.
I’m thinking of the lynching of Leo Frank in Georgia in 1915
Leo Frank raped and murdered a 13 yr old girl. He was sentenced to death by hanging after a fair trial, then some faggot judge comuted his sentence to life in prison. So a crowd broke into his prison, dragged him out and "lynched" him (gave him the hanging he deserved.

I'm so sick of leftists making all lynched people into "victims", when the vast majority were heinous criminals. Jews keep trying to make Leo Frank into an innocent man because the crowd had too much fun hanging his pedo, kid-killing ass.
 
Even ancient Romans celebrated their destruction of Judea by issuing commemorative coins featuring a bound Jewish woman and inscribed with the words “Judaea capta.” The humiliation and murder of Jews have always made a great meme.
I don't think it is remotely healthy for any population of people to dwell (obsessively so, in this case) over past indignities, wrongs, insults, or crimes done against them. Especially beyond the generation that actually lived through the acts. To obsessively whine and seethe that some Roman coins were minted with "Yep, we defeated yet another weak Jewish revolt" written on them for about 25 years some two millennia ago is just weirdly pathological.

Half those coins were minted by a Jewish leader anyway, Agrippa, and most had the goddess Nike on the back, not some "bound Jewish woman" sitting comfortably under a shade palm. And even in those purely Roman-minted coins, the "bound Jewish woman" is sitting with her arms untied in the shade of a tree. You'd never know it was a Jewish chick or any of the historical context unless some autist told you.
 
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