Opinion Let Me Be Perfectly Queer: Won’t someone think of the children?

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Let Me Be Perfectly Queer: Won’t someone think of the children?​

If you watch the news or use social media, you may have noticed a recent increase in news and opinion from far-right groups and politicians regarding children, but not for any reason that could actually improve their lives.

Instead, governments have tried to ban drag queen story times, dictate what bathrooms people can use, and who can (and cannot) participate on children’s recreational sports teams. All this has been done in the name of protecting children.

But does knowing that trans people exist harm children? Where does the idea that the queer community will hurt children come from? In this column, I debunk some of the most common arguments used against the queer community.

MYTH 1: Queerness is sexual​

If being gay is about sex, then learning about gay people is learning about sex. But it isn’t about sex, any more than a heterosexual marriage is about sex.

Heterosexual relationships are so common, the sexuality of those involved becomes invisible to us. When two characters get married on TV, it is just a wedding. When two gay characters get married, all of a sudden children are being exposed to sexuality in a way that scares parents. Just knowing that gay people exist is often seen as too sexual.

Similarly, family friendly drag shows are seen by some as sexual no matter how the performers dress or how chaste the content of the act might be.

Celebrated performer Bob the Drag Queendescribes drag as blurring gender lines while doing art. Even if an artist does not typically perform in family friendly contexts, they, like artists in any other art form, know how to adjust their content.

Snoop Dogg has made multiple appearances on Sesame Street and adjusts his material for children, but parents know not to take their three-year-old to his concerts. However, the standard of being family friendly is impossible to meet for 2SLGBTQ+ artists if merely being queer or trans or performing in drag makes the act too sexual, regardless of the content of the performance or context of the situation.

MYTH 2: Children find gender and sexual diversity confusing​

I often hear people ask how they are supposed to explain the idea of same-sex relationships or trans identities to children. The thing is, it is so much simpler than most people make it out to be. Here’s a simple example:

“Why are those two boys kissing?”

“Because they like each other.”

“Why does Riley want to be a girl?”

“Well, when Riley was born, the doctors thought they were a boy. But now that she is older, she told us that the doctors made a mistake. She is a girl.”

There are often follow up questions, but the conversation really is that simple. If a child can understand that they have a mom and dad, they can understand that another child may have two moms or two dads.

MYTH 3: Knowing that queer people exist will make children gay​

I have heard the arguments that there are more and more trans kids today than there were 20 years ago because exposure to trans people is causing children to be trans.

Gender is not, and has never been, contagious. Many trans people describe knowing that they were different since they were little, but without any exposure to trans communities, they didn’t understand why they have always felt different.

Kids are not more likely to be gay or trans now than they were 20 years ago; they are just much less likely to be confused if they feel like the gender they were assigned at birth doesn’t feel right or if they start having romantic feelings for someone of the same gender.

The increased visibility of queer people is simply because people who are gay or trans now know that gender and sexual diversity are valid options in a way that was unavailable or unknown to them in previous generations.

Growing acceptance means this acknowledgement happens more and sooner than before; they don’t have to hide who they are or be confused about it for years or decades or be buried in shame the way that so many queer people were in decades past.

MYTH 4: 2SLGBTQ+ Adults Groom children​

The term “groomer” comes from homophobic arguments made in the 1970s. They were used to deny gay men and lesbians basic rights like health care or protection from workplace discrimination.

The premise was that because gay men and lesbians couldn’t reproduce, they must recruit others to maintain their numbers. It mostly fell away from common usage in the 1990s as we realized all people deserve human rights regardless of their sexual orientation, but has made a resurgence in the last few years thanks to far-right movements.

The idea that the 2SLGBTQ+ community is trying to “groom” or “convert” children is increasingly being used, even by politicians, to create fear and anxiety around the queer community in the name of child protection.

Despite decades of studies, there is absolutely no evidence gay men are more likely to harm children than straight men. Terms like “groomer” and “predator” are almost never used to describe cisgender heterosexual men. Yet, rarely referred to as “groomers” are the straight men who catcalled me when I was 12 years old; or the writers and casting directors who put 50-year-old actors alongside a 19-year-old love interest in movies; or the older men who go to clubs or watch pornography featuring “barely legal” girls; or the men who befriend young girls until they are old enough to date.

MYTH 5: 2SLGBTQ+ existence is causing a breakdown in the moral fabric of society​

The idea that being queer is a step toward the destruction of everything we know and hold dear is a really, really old idea.

People also thought that women working outside the home would cause the downfall of society, but what it did was give women the freedom to leave relationships that didn’t work for them. De-segregating Black and white schools, workplaces and neighbourhoods was also supposed to cause the end of civil society as we knew it, but very little changed for white families.

There is no connection between queerness and amoral behaviour — countries with comprehensive sex education that includes gender and sexuality, and legal protections for queer folks are not more likely to be corrupt, have higher crime rates, or increased rates of mental illness or even STIs.

In fact, the opposite is often the case.

With comprehensive sexual education comes lower pregnancy rates and fewer STIs. And countries with better protections for queer people are more likely to have comprehensive social programs, lower rates of poverty and less stigma toward queer folks, all of which help with the other issues above.

The simple fact is that change can be scary, especially when we don’t understand it, but that doesn’t make it bad or amoral.

Where did these myths come from?​

Queer relationships were illegal in Canada until 1969. Gay marriage was not recognized in Canada until 2003 and is still only recognized in 34 countries globally.

Since gay men and lesbians had to live in secret, hiding their relationships from the outside world and often even from their families and co-workers, they were seen as secretive and capable of deception.

Similar attitudes persist about trans people, who are thought to hide the gender they were assigned at birth from the world (which is weird because most people don’t have to disclose anything about their birth to every person they meet). Gay men and lesbians were not allowed to serve in the military or hold government jobs or professional positions, such as doctor or lawyer. They were seen as dangerous strangers and even treated as traitors by the Canadian government until as late as the early 1990s.

Times have slightly changed since then.

Now, instead of calling us communist sympathizers, they refer to us as child molesters, but it is the same rhetoric, coming from the same part of the political spectrum.

Their goal is clear: If you discredit the messenger, nobody will listen to the message. Saying queer folks are linked to grooming or pedophilia is equal to calling us one of the worst things a person can be. It tries to discredit us as a group and seeks to silence us.

What we say about ourselves no longer matters — what we say about politics, about our relationships, about our lives no longer matters because we are seen as monsters instead of people.

It then becomes not only desirable but necessary to treat queer people as threatening lesser beings, to police us and our behaviours in order to protect children, even when there is absolutely no basis to the arguments underlying this position.

Then again, when has common sense and empathy gotten in the way of good old-fashioned scapegoating?
 
As annoying as it is that Android Raptor is a broken record with 4 moves programmed into her like a Pokemon, I find it hard to care when it's the same handful of people willfully derailing threads by arguing the same shit over and over and over and over again literally every fucking day for weeks and months and fucking years.
 
White lesbian* affected somehow.

I'd start placing bets on what the wheel of abortion it is this time: mom defends rapist/ "even if just one loif"/ 'it never should have happened guise'/the states laws etc. etc./ muh pearl-clutch but apparently I was late to this party.

Also all of the above.
Actually it should be less of a wheel and more of a bingo.
You're not very good at this.
Have you tried running off to your hugbox and calling in backup?
 
This gollum-like creature is obsessed with children because, underneath all the broken-brained, intentional obfuscation, it's a woman, and it has materanl instincts that drive it to think about the children of its own that it will never have. Its despair over its own childlessness, coupled with its sexuality-obsessed rainbow cult politics, twist it's preoccupation with children in ways that would get it put on a watch list in a sane world.

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Ofc it's a pooner
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How did this hit 5 pag- oh an Android Raptor and Co. derail, lmao. :story:

Moving on.

MYTH 1: Queerness is sexual
Then why is everything related to queerness about emphasizing sexuality?
MYTH 2: Children find gender and sexual diversity confusing
When a child is presented with a lie of childlike simplicity, they aren't going to be confused. Try to honestly explain AGPs to them though and I'd bet there will be much confusion, though you probably shouldn't try to explain AGPs they see and ask about outside of "that's a man with brain problems sweetie" and leave it at that until later.

This really underscores why they want them this young though: a lie implanted that early is hard to dislodge especially if it's simple and comes from an "authority". A lie found out after it was implanted that young is the kind of thing that brings about fury when its discovered later though...
MYTH 3: Knowing that queer people exist will make children gay
Explain the last 10 years faggot. Children absolutely do things for validation from authority, and if every visible authority is telling EVERYONE that being queer is cool (they are) a nontrivial portion of kids will monkey say monkey do for validation.
MYTH 4: 2SLGBTQ+ Adults Groom children
Except we see it happen on reddit all the fucking time in the "you're probably trans" support groups, and that's just what we can find easily.
MYTH 5: 2SLGBTQ+ existence is causing a breakdown in the moral fabric of society
This one is my favorite.
There is no connection between queerness and amoral behaviour — countries with comprehensive sex education that includes gender and sexuality, and legal protections for queer folks are not more likely to be corrupt, have higher crime rates, or increased rates of mental illness or even STIs.
Funny how the go for "amoral" instead of "immoral". Teaching amorality can lead to immorality, but I think a lot of people are complaining about the immoral, not "amoral", actions of Activist Americans Of Gender.

Also the use of amoral allows for equivocation because there's a few definitions and not all are negatively connotated.
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So they can ackshully for almost all their points since they just point at 1 or 3 even though they definitely mean 2, and they're hoping you'll lie for them by assuming they mean "immoral".

It's a gigantic correlation = causation fallacy because the basic argument is "well these countries do sex ed that talks about fags, therefore all the things these countries did BEFORE which are completely unrelated to fags, prove that trannies aren't acting like unstoppable psychos". The only queer related points are STIs and mental illness: your argument about a set of statistics that can have groups removed from it for political reasons (trannies no longer in the DSM for example) is unconvincing as related to "queers", and STI transmission is far from a queer only thing, though at least "irresponsibility" and "retardation" are closer to "immoral queer behavior" than any of the other shit, but it's tenuous.

The rest of it is basic "you live in a western country" related shit, not "you live in a faggot paradise" related shit.

The actions people are getting tired of is the obvious "support group" grooming, invasion of women's spaces by state protected perverts, targeting kids so young they can barely speak much less know what sex even is outside of a word said on the playground to be edgy assuming they're old enough to be verbal, and the trans-medical-and-influence-industrial-complex of shady doctors, therapists, and activists, and the bureaucrats, government or professional organization based, that enable them.

Those are pretty specific, and definitely ARE causing a decay in the "moral fabric" of society, after all crimes against children are among the worst, and the results are there for all to see: trannies don't even try to hide the obvious explosion of "trans youth", they celebrate it, blind to the fact that people aren't as blind as they think they are.

Last but not least, this all is an attack on basic truth. If you can no longer call a man a man or a woman a woman, and the reason is some obvious pervert said so while every pillar of society nods approvingly, that really fucks with people more than cannot be overstated much less adequately studied.
 
“Why does Riley want to be a girl?”

“Well, when Riley was born, the doctors thought they were a boy. But now that she is older, she told us that the doctors made a mistake. She is a girl.”

No. :mad:

That's not even close to appropriate. It implies a medical mistake. It implies the doctors accidentally said vagina when they saw a penis in the delivery room. This type of answer misleads children into thinking it's possible to "accidentally" be assigned the wrong gender from birth. Unless Riley is truly intersex with ambiguous genitalia then an answer like this does not apply.

Feels before reals amirite?*sigh*
 
As annoying as it is that Android Raptor is a broken record with 4 moves programmed into her like a Pokemon, I find it hard to care when it's the same handful of people willfully derailing threads by arguing the same shit over and over and over and over again literally every fucking day for weeks and months and fucking years.
It's like some people are completely incapable of coping with the fact that there are other people who utterly disagree with them on a fundamental level. They literally can't cope with this fact, and demand the offending person be removed from their presence, because they are so mentally weak that the mere existence of a person who disagrees with them buck-breaks them.
 
It's like some people are completely incapable of coping with the fact that there are other people who utterly disagree with them on a fundamental level. They literally can't cope with this fact, and demand the offending person be removed from their presence, because they are so mentally weak that the mere existence of a person who disagrees with them buck-breaks them.
using the ignore button works wonders for me
 
One day the mods will stop guarding Android raptor's gross taint and give her the pink triangle. One day.
As annoying as it is that Android Raptor is a broken record with 4 moves programmed into her like a Pokemon, I find it hard to care when it's the same handful of people willfully derailing threads by arguing the same shit over and over and over and over again literally every fucking day for weeks and months and fucking years.
She's literally the one derailing threads, Jersh.

Christ if any of the A&H posters did what she did in BP we'd get the pink triangle in a heart beat. But her derailing every thread is okay because "durr just ignore it's just a difference of opinion".

Like fuck, any discussion of the actual article gets derailed every fucking time she does this. And she always does this. But I guess it's okay when she does it because ???.
 
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Maybe kids wouldn't want to transition so much if being sexualized by pedos wasn't such a universal experience for girls the second they start puberty.
Did you just suggest it's only girls alone who are subjugated to pedo grooming?
Car crash into nearest wall.

Then why don't you call out the rainbow brigade perverts who are blatantly exposing children to sexualization? And why don't you call out their mainstream media apologists and allies?
Have any of you thought this cunt might be lgbt pedos ally, no?

It's just that teaching kids gay people exist isn't sexualization.
Quite the contrary you dumb cunt. Gayness is a fetish, depraved one at that and part of sexualization, no matter how you do look at that.


Either way its not people loud and proudly identifying as gay and being active in the LGBTQ community.
Oh good, you acknowledge that you're subhuman on par with the rest of homofags. Cool, cool.
It's almost like they don't actually give a fuck about kids
Because frankly giving a fuck about the kids is the job of kids' parents first and foremost, the government is just a provider of services and environment that is, supposedly, meant for parents' convenience of raising their child as a valuable and skillful member of society... In a dream world, that is. We live in a clownworld today.
 
But does knowing that trans people exist harm children?
Yes. The same way knowing about anything weird and disturbing does
Where does the idea that the queer community will hurt children come from?
Statistics, I think
If being gay is about sex, then learning about gay people is learning about sex. But it isn’t about sex,
It is about sex.
Gender is not, and has never been, contagious.
ROGD disagrees
MYTH 4: 2SLGBTQ+ Adults Groom children
It’s not a myth. They do.
If you’d have left the kids alone, got married and kept yourselves to yourselves society would have left you alone. You go for the kids, and you activate a deep seated protective response in society and individuals
 
Did you just suggest it's only girls alone who are subjugated to pedo grooming?
Car crash into nearest wall.
No, I'm pointing out the fact that for the past decade gender dysphoria cases in minors have overwhelmingly been adolescent females. There are many reasons for this, but girls trying to escape sexualization and misogyny is a big factor.
Because frankly giving a fuck about the kids is the job of kids' parents first and foremost, the government is just a provider of services and environment that is, supposedly, meant for parents' convenience of raising their child as a valuable and skillful member of society... In a dream world, that is. We live in a clownworld today.
Unfortunately many parents don't actually give a fuck about their kids and will do shit like beat them for Jesus or turn a blind eye to their father/uncle/older brother/etc sneaking into their room at night.

Shit, just look at any thread subject here that's managed to reproduce.
 
Unfortunately many parents don't actually give a fuck about their kids and will do shit like beat them for Jesus or turn a blind eye to their father/uncle/older brother/etc sneaking into their room at night.
Just because you had this shit doesn't mean everyone else does. EUTHANASIA PILLS, NOW.


Shit, just look at any thread subject here that's managed to reproduce.
All I see is retarded lgbtpnz+++ advocate in your face with a burning passion toward traditional values and people who do think that religion is not a bad thing and can help to better them in a way. That's all I need to know
 
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