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Let Me Be Perfectly Queer: Won’t someone think of the children?​

If you watch the news or use social media, you may have noticed a recent increase in news and opinion from far-right groups and politicians regarding children, but not for any reason that could actually improve their lives.

Instead, governments have tried to ban drag queen story times, dictate what bathrooms people can use, and who can (and cannot) participate on children’s recreational sports teams. All this has been done in the name of protecting children.

But does knowing that trans people exist harm children? Where does the idea that the queer community will hurt children come from? In this column, I debunk some of the most common arguments used against the queer community.

MYTH 1: Queerness is sexual​

If being gay is about sex, then learning about gay people is learning about sex. But it isn’t about sex, any more than a heterosexual marriage is about sex.

Heterosexual relationships are so common, the sexuality of those involved becomes invisible to us. When two characters get married on TV, it is just a wedding. When two gay characters get married, all of a sudden children are being exposed to sexuality in a way that scares parents. Just knowing that gay people exist is often seen as too sexual.

Similarly, family friendly drag shows are seen by some as sexual no matter how the performers dress or how chaste the content of the act might be.

Celebrated performer Bob the Drag Queendescribes drag as blurring gender lines while doing art. Even if an artist does not typically perform in family friendly contexts, they, like artists in any other art form, know how to adjust their content.

Snoop Dogg has made multiple appearances on Sesame Street and adjusts his material for children, but parents know not to take their three-year-old to his concerts. However, the standard of being family friendly is impossible to meet for 2SLGBTQ+ artists if merely being queer or trans or performing in drag makes the act too sexual, regardless of the content of the performance or context of the situation.

MYTH 2: Children find gender and sexual diversity confusing​

I often hear people ask how they are supposed to explain the idea of same-sex relationships or trans identities to children. The thing is, it is so much simpler than most people make it out to be. Here’s a simple example:

“Why are those two boys kissing?”

“Because they like each other.”

“Why does Riley want to be a girl?”

“Well, when Riley was born, the doctors thought they were a boy. But now that she is older, she told us that the doctors made a mistake. She is a girl.”

There are often follow up questions, but the conversation really is that simple. If a child can understand that they have a mom and dad, they can understand that another child may have two moms or two dads.

MYTH 3: Knowing that queer people exist will make children gay​

I have heard the arguments that there are more and more trans kids today than there were 20 years ago because exposure to trans people is causing children to be trans.

Gender is not, and has never been, contagious. Many trans people describe knowing that they were different since they were little, but without any exposure to trans communities, they didn’t understand why they have always felt different.

Kids are not more likely to be gay or trans now than they were 20 years ago; they are just much less likely to be confused if they feel like the gender they were assigned at birth doesn’t feel right or if they start having romantic feelings for someone of the same gender.

The increased visibility of queer people is simply because people who are gay or trans now know that gender and sexual diversity are valid options in a way that was unavailable or unknown to them in previous generations.

Growing acceptance means this acknowledgement happens more and sooner than before; they don’t have to hide who they are or be confused about it for years or decades or be buried in shame the way that so many queer people were in decades past.

MYTH 4: 2SLGBTQ+ Adults Groom children​

The term “groomer” comes from homophobic arguments made in the 1970s. They were used to deny gay men and lesbians basic rights like health care or protection from workplace discrimination.

The premise was that because gay men and lesbians couldn’t reproduce, they must recruit others to maintain their numbers. It mostly fell away from common usage in the 1990s as we realized all people deserve human rights regardless of their sexual orientation, but has made a resurgence in the last few years thanks to far-right movements.

The idea that the 2SLGBTQ+ community is trying to “groom” or “convert” children is increasingly being used, even by politicians, to create fear and anxiety around the queer community in the name of child protection.

Despite decades of studies, there is absolutely no evidence gay men are more likely to harm children than straight men. Terms like “groomer” and “predator” are almost never used to describe cisgender heterosexual men. Yet, rarely referred to as “groomers” are the straight men who catcalled me when I was 12 years old; or the writers and casting directors who put 50-year-old actors alongside a 19-year-old love interest in movies; or the older men who go to clubs or watch pornography featuring “barely legal” girls; or the men who befriend young girls until they are old enough to date.

MYTH 5: 2SLGBTQ+ existence is causing a breakdown in the moral fabric of society​

The idea that being queer is a step toward the destruction of everything we know and hold dear is a really, really old idea.

People also thought that women working outside the home would cause the downfall of society, but what it did was give women the freedom to leave relationships that didn’t work for them. De-segregating Black and white schools, workplaces and neighbourhoods was also supposed to cause the end of civil society as we knew it, but very little changed for white families.

There is no connection between queerness and amoral behaviour — countries with comprehensive sex education that includes gender and sexuality, and legal protections for queer folks are not more likely to be corrupt, have higher crime rates, or increased rates of mental illness or even STIs.

In fact, the opposite is often the case.

With comprehensive sexual education comes lower pregnancy rates and fewer STIs. And countries with better protections for queer people are more likely to have comprehensive social programs, lower rates of poverty and less stigma toward queer folks, all of which help with the other issues above.

The simple fact is that change can be scary, especially when we don’t understand it, but that doesn’t make it bad or amoral.

Where did these myths come from?​

Queer relationships were illegal in Canada until 1969. Gay marriage was not recognized in Canada until 2003 and is still only recognized in 34 countries globally.

Since gay men and lesbians had to live in secret, hiding their relationships from the outside world and often even from their families and co-workers, they were seen as secretive and capable of deception.

Similar attitudes persist about trans people, who are thought to hide the gender they were assigned at birth from the world (which is weird because most people don’t have to disclose anything about their birth to every person they meet). Gay men and lesbians were not allowed to serve in the military or hold government jobs or professional positions, such as doctor or lawyer. They were seen as dangerous strangers and even treated as traitors by the Canadian government until as late as the early 1990s.

Times have slightly changed since then.

Now, instead of calling us communist sympathizers, they refer to us as child molesters, but it is the same rhetoric, coming from the same part of the political spectrum.

Their goal is clear: If you discredit the messenger, nobody will listen to the message. Saying queer folks are linked to grooming or pedophilia is equal to calling us one of the worst things a person can be. It tries to discredit us as a group and seeks to silence us.

What we say about ourselves no longer matters — what we say about politics, about our relationships, about our lives no longer matters because we are seen as monsters instead of people.

It then becomes not only desirable but necessary to treat queer people as threatening lesser beings, to police us and our behaviours in order to protect children, even when there is absolutely no basis to the arguments underlying this position.

Then again, when has common sense and empathy gotten in the way of good old-fashioned scapegoating?
 
"Two-Spirit". Leaf term for a group of closely related Native social roles involving men who were said to carry "both male and female spirits". The term is a neologism made up by faggots to indoctrinate Natives into blindly supporting them.
That two spirit shit is Indian tribes saying 'you don't want to hunt like a man? You're not going to freeload. Work with the women since you clearly aren't a man.'
 
I have heard the arguments that there are more and more trans kids today than there were 20 years ago because exposure to trans people is causing children to be trans.

Gender is not, and has never been, contagious. Many trans people describe knowing that they were different since they were little, but without any exposure to trans communities, they didn’t understand why they have always felt different.
This article is an amazing piece of propaganda. Wrong about absolutely everything.
 
This gollum-like creature is obsessed with children because, underneath all the broken-brained, intentional obfuscation, it's a woman, and it has materanl instincts that drive it to think about the children of its own that it will never have. Its despair over its own childlessness, coupled with its sexuality-obsessed rainbow cult politics, twist it's preoccupation with children in ways that would get it put on a watch list in a sane world.

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That dog looks like it has seen some shit it would rather not have seen. 🤔
 
Reminder that a vast majority of child molesters identify as straight.
From reality. You hurt children and you wail and gnash your teeth whenever someone tries to make it harder for you to hurt another child.
But enough about religious fundamentalists
 
I really wanted to see this but I can't find any clips I don't think this is true
It's because 1. It was the Muppets not Sesame Street and 2. His scene was removed in 2002
Source:
Snoop Dogg filmed a celebrity cameo scene for It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie. Snoop Dogg's brief scene, in which he interacted with Kermit and The Electric Mayhem backstage in The Muppet Theatre, was removed from the final cut of the 2002 telefilm by The Jim Henson Company and NBC, and was also absent from the DVD release, which included other deleted scenes.

According to a press release published on Henson.com:

“As commonly occurs during this stage of production, we have had to cut several scenes originally planned for the movie which did not advance its storyline. Unfortunately, one of the scenes we have had to cut was a brief appearance by the talented artist Snoop Dogg. We are very proud of this TV movie and are confident that it will be a highlight of the holiday season.”

However, according to many media reports, the motives for cutting Snoop's scene were not simply time constraints. Reporters stated that producers had extra incentive to cut the Snoop footage when protest arose over mixing a hardened hip-hop artist with classic children's characters.

Conservative radio show host Larry Elder, FOX News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, and Project Islamic Hope's Najee Ali led a protest threatening an NBC boycott over the inclusion of Snoop Dogg in the family film.

Najee Ali argued that the emcee was unfit for family television fare stating:

“I grew up watching the Muppets. They are very precious to me—those memories of watching [them] as a child, Now I have children and want them to feel that way, too... There are plenty of other hip-hop artists that they could have chosen rather this guy. He was the very worst choice.”

Kermit himself was quite frank about the matter in a guest appearance on The Late Late Show on November 22, 2002. Host Craig Kilborn quizzed him about the situation. Kermit's response was as follows:

“Well, I think that kinda what happened was, that, uh, Snoop came along to do our movie at about the time that he was, like, quitting drugs...? Unfortunately, he was starting porn.... Yeah...it's really nothing personal, because, porn's fine, you know, but it's not what we do in a Muppet movie, and...and he's a really, he's a very nice guy, I mean, I really liked him, we had a lot in common—Frog, Dogg, you know... And it's no dis, homey. If you're watching. It's no dis.”

Snoop's involvement in producing pornographic films included a contribution to the Girls Gone Wild franchise.

Writer Jim Lewis described the cut scene in a 2007 Q&A:

“Here's how I remember it. We come upon Kermit and Snoop backstage talking in that patented Snoop patois (e.g. 'Off the hizzle f'shizzle...etc.'). Surprisingly, Kermit is fluent in this lingo and has his own Frog Pound. We then see the Electric Mayhem band sitting nearby. Floyd Pepper asks a typically insightful question, something along the lines of: 'Didja ever think that maybe the whole world is a molecule on the big toe of some giant in the cosmos?' To which Snoop gives a long (and to me) totally confusing answer just brimming with 'hizzles' and 'f'shizzles'. Floyd, Animal, and the rest of the band nod sagely and then Zoot says a line that was ad-libbed on the spot: 'Man, that's the first thing around here I've understood in 30 years.'”
 
Do you have anything except fucking Bush-era Internet Atheism talking points?

No, of course you don't.
I live in a region that's still trapped in the Bush era and have ongoing sex abuse investigations of Southern Baptists to prove it.

It's crazy how the anti-grooming crusaders have been silent about Southern baptists having a secret list of 200+ known pedos they did nothing about and allowed to keep working with and abusing kids. Or the holy roller grooming academy in TN.
 
Reminder that a vast majority of child molesters identify as straight.

But enough about religious fundamentalists
Yes Miss Raptor, everyone knows that there are straight pedos and pedos in the church, but the thing is that tranny pedos are supported by the media and their grooming methods are seen as normal.
 
Yes Miss Raptor, everyone knows that there are straight pedos and pedos in the church, but the thing is that tranny pedos are supported by the media and their grooming methods are seen as normal.
Weird because you could say the same thing about conservative pedos in the half of the country they control.
 
Everyone look at this at take it as a warning - this is the kind of retarded shit you wind up genuinely believing when you're permanently stuck in 2004.
If only, at least children weren't being forced to give birth in 2004
 
Everyone look at this at take it as a warning - this is the kind of retarded shit you wind up genuinely believing when you're permanently stuck in 2004.
I see a lot of so-called conservatives that are stuck in the same loop. Everything is neocons. They're everywhere controlling everything. Hell, I've had some flat out tell me that Biden is a neocon. Thankfully I don't see that all that often here.
 
I see a lot of so-called conservatives that are stuck in the same loop. Everything is neocons. They're everywhere controlling everything. Hell, I've had some flat out tell me that Biden is a neocon. Thankfully I don't see that all that often here.
Yeah because people here think forcing children to give birth or marry adult men is a good thing, and will get in 10+ page autistic arguments dying on the worst hills imaginable.
 
Yeah because people here think forcing children to give birth or marry adult men is a good thing, and will get in 10+ page autistic arguments dying on the worst hills imaginable.
Do you live next door to Boogie2988 or something?
 
Do you live next door to Boogie2988 or something?
Worse, she's a femcel lesbian trying to into abortion cuz she got catcalled once, when she was 16.

Nothing says white privelege more than some bint telling you what to think because of some perceived moral obligation especially when not only is it unwarranted, but comedically childish and autistic.

This is the part where she bitches about her IUD in some lame attempt to make it about her again btw.

Notice how fast she reacts to my shit btw. She knows what's up.
 
Weird because you could say the same thing about conservative pedos in the half of the country they control.
Mmm not sure about this, in comparison straight pedophiles grooming methods are much less tolerated than gay pedophiles grooming methods by the general population and media, anyway both sides need to go to the wall regardless of their sexuality and political stance.
 
Yeah because people here think forcing children to give birth or marry adult men is a good thing, and will get in 10+ page autistic arguments dying on the worst hills imaginable.
I'm a hardcore lefty, strongly support feminist issues, and I find your derailing tedious. I hate preachers raping children. I hate childhood beauty pageants. I hate child "marriage." But this article was about queer theory. And yes, queer theory is very much about raping children. See Jensen's Queer Theory Pedophilia Jeopardy, for one.
 
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