Conservative men, you can save women from toxic feminism. It happened to me

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/conservative-men-save-women-from-toxic-feminism

by Peachy Keenan

August 14, 2023 11:40 AM

Meeting my husband was like grabbing onto the landing skids of the last chopper out of Saigon. Looking back, that was the actual moment I narrowly escaped life as a clueless pagan, a half-baked feminist with mostly fuzzy ideas about what was best in life. By the time I met him, I was a fresh convert to political conservatism, but my nascent right-wing leanings had not yet translated into any meaningful changes in my personal life. I was still a “social” liberal, which I mostly interpreted as being very, very social. As Ben Orr sang in my second-favorite Cars song, “Let’s Go,” “I like the nightlife, baby.”

Yes, I assumed I’d get married “one day” and yes, I wanted to have kids “one day,” but I was not in any kind of hurry. I had places and parties to go to! There was zero urgency about the future. The only future plan I cared about was what I was going to do that weekend. It’s embarrassing to admit that I was not 22 or 25. I was 28!

In my new book, Domestic Extremist, I describe my reaction when I found out my husband had highly toxic masculine attitudes. He was the first conservative besides my parents whom I’d ever met. When I discovered early on that he was also a social conservative and (trigger warning) pro-life, I was dismayed and shocked. Horrified, even. You don’t believe in women’s rights? You want us to stay barefoot and pregnant all the time? How dare you!

But somehow, it had the opposite effect on me. As I wrote in my book,

“I suddenly discovered that there is something very attractive about a man who wants to convince a young woman that babies — her future babies, perhaps even babies he wants to have with her — are precious and must be protected. It was a display of confident masculine energy I had rarely encountered among the skinny-jeans hipsters, waxed metrosexuals, and louche Ivy League grads I was used to dealing with. This man wanted to protect children ... my children ... our children. Swoon! Forget Mr. Big: here was my Mr. (Far) Right! A man willing to risk his new chick walking out the door because he defended a child’s right to live is a man who will defend his own child. By the time we got married the following year, I was already dabbling in domestic extremism and planning to have children as soon as we could.”
When I saw the viral TikTok video a few months ago where a young liberal feminist laments the fact that the only masculine men she ever meets who know how to treat women properly are “MAGA Republicans,” I felt validated. Young feminists are just waiting for these guys to win their hearts! The open question is: Are their hearts already two sizes too small? Have they been pickled in the acidic brine of shrill man-hating for too long, or is there still something left?

Do I want to condemn Generation Z men to a fruitless pursuit of shrill and sterilized young feminists? No, I do not. And I also don’t want young men to hide their inner Ken and pretend to be a woke ally in order to find their Barbie. My point is this: Let your Ken flag fly, fellas. If she is appalled, then she is not your gal. Don’t ever “feminize” yourself to appeal to a woman. Her liberal indoctrination may demand it on paper, but in reality, it will always be a turnoff.

And never, no matter what, tell anyone your pronouns are “he/him” when you are obviously, visibly male. That’s like admitting people might not be able to tell right away!

It’s not hard to find women. You just have to try to find some who are open to hearing you out. If she likes the cut of your jib enough, she’ll give you a shot. You just have to bring the rizz; let your youth or whatever else you got do the rest!

Need some free dating tips? Here are some easy conversation starters to woo woke women: “I take care of my body, and I can tell that you do, too.” “Your name is [her name]? That’s really pretty. I want to name my firstborn daughter that.” “No, I don’t use dating apps. Never had to.”

Drop subtle hints that you’re not like other guys — you know, like their male feminist allies who rely on high-dose intravenous Viagra when it’s their turn in the nonbinary polyamory house to service one of the housemates with a front hole.

Try it! Locate a fresh-faced lass who looks like she still identifies as female and has most of her original body parts intact. You might find her gawking at a campus Slutwalk, or parading in the nearest Women’s March, or at a Lizzo concert. Approach her. Compliment her.

If enough good guys deprogrammed enough fertile young feminists, I wouldn’t have had to write my book. Would have saved me a lot of trouble, believe me.

Peachy Keenan is the author of Domestic Extremist: A Practical Guide to Winning the Culture War and a senior contributor to the Federalist. She is also a contributing editor for the American Mind and she writes at peachykeenan.substack.com and on the app formerly known as Twitter @keenanpeachy.
 
Woman falls for Captain Save-a-ho and marries him, thinks men should band together into the Save-a-ho League of America. It doesn't work like that.

Need some free dating tips? Here are some easy conversation starters to woo woke women: “I take care of my body, and I can tell that you do, too.”
Is that some kind of joke?
 
Woman are happiest when they know their place.
Women are happiest when they're living it up during the temporary reprieve from the predictable, obvious consequences of their actions.

But rest assured, it'll be your fault and my fault once their chickens come home to roost.
 
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As a feminist who married a man and has one child with plans for more, I think this woman is a stupid pickme. She's not like those other girls because she came to enjoy motherhood! No other woman out there would ever do that!

Guess what? You can enjoy parenthood no matter your politics. Not everyone is in a gay polycule with people of gender. You don't have to give up on everything you believe in to have a family, you have to find a partner worth spending the rest of your life with, and then build a life together with that person. You don't need to marry a paternalistic Nazi. Contrary to the population of this board, there are actually nice, intelligent, savvy men who make something of themselves in the world, and you can marry one of them.

Need some free dating tips? Here are some easy conversation starters to woo woke women: “I take care of my body, and I can tell that you do, too.” “Your name is [her name]? That’s really pretty. I want to name my firstborn daughter that.” “No, I don’t use dating apps. Never had to.”
These are terrible approaches, you need to read Bang by Roosh V
a young liberal feminist laments the fact that the only masculine men she ever meets who know how to treat women properly are “MAGA Republicans,”
treat women properly = ragepig holler at them because they aren't mopping the piss off your desk fast enough
If enough good guys deprogrammed enough fertile young feminists
This is a woman who's trying to get a one-up on other women by objectifying herself (as a breeding machine) and other women (as breeding machines.) These pickme, wow-I'm-so-unique women have been making the rounds ever since Phyllis Schlafly preached for women to stay at home with their kids. Oddly enough, Schlafly didn't take her own advice, preferring a life of hosting talks and being on tour.
 
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Contrary to the population of this board, there are actually nice, intelligent, savvy men who make something of themselves in the world, and you can marry one of them.
I think you meant women, but I completely agree with you. I think the modern paradigm of women being essentially blank slates to mindlessly follow their husband and be a fucktoy for them is a bit weird and one of those post war inventions everyone pretends is natural. Even in 3rd world countries, women are very active and do a lot outside of giving birth. I think ah oman should be educated and have some sort of personality and her own opinions if she wants to be a good mother (assuming those opinions aren't retarded drivel that directly creates troons, incels and other maladjusted children). At the same time, she should be a fucking woman (literally lmao) and a good wife and mother just as a man is expected to be a good father anf husband. I really don't know why societt feels it needs to go to one extreme or the other to keep things stable.

Why is it always one form of crazy or another. Why can't you fuckers just be FUCKING normal holy shit.
Female autism unironically.
 
I really don't know why societt feels it needs to go to one extreme or the other to keep things stable.
I don't think it's about "stability". I think it's about one side or the other (generally speaking, libertine whores vs insecure loser men) demanding that all of society be tailored to their whims and that they get everything they want from the opposite sex while giving no consideration for anyone else.
 
I think she is doing a shit job articulating her point but the hate in here seems a bit overboard when she is at least partially correct. A significant chunk of liberal women I have met are natural conservatives who have had their feminine instincts of kindness and compassion hijacked by professors, jurnos and other assorted scum. They want motherhood and family and they hate the rat race working world but they have been duped into believing they are less of a woman if they don't compete with the boys. These women are victims and need to be told that their desires are not wrong and infact the people who told them to give up a family and die alone so a corporation can eat up their youth are actually evil monsters who want to damn an entire generation of women to a life of lonely suffering.
 
She seems like a woman with absolutely no sense of self. She’s grabbed a guy and adopted his thoughts. If she’d married another guys, she’d be cheerleading his beliefs. No matter what they were, if she’d married a Muslim she’d be the best Muslim wife ever. If she’d married one of the storm front lads, she’d be zealously going that way and if she’d married a söy gremlin she’d be happily watching him troon out.
Ftfy; none of them have a sense of self. Plenty of men like that too, these days, of course. But even the smartest women I've known were all very quick to adopt the opinions of whichever authority appeared the most popular.
 
Ftfy; none of them have a sense of self. Plenty of men like that too, these days, of course. But even the smartest women I've known were all very quick to adopt the opinions of whichever authority appeared the most popular.
Women are naturally more agreeable, and while they don't build, they do sustain. The liberated feminist will scream and howl that women in the Middle East are oppressed and abused; meanwhile the women in the Middle East are out collecting rocks with their children and possibly painting them before the weekly stoning of the whore. It's not a universal, some women are more disagreeable and some men are more agreeable, and what-not, exceptions do exist. But for the most part, men build, women move in and sustain.
 
I think she is doing a shit job articulating her point but the hate in here seems a bit overboard when she is at least partially correct. A significant chunk of liberal women I have met are natural conservatives who have had their feminine instincts of kindness and compassion hijacked by professors, jurnos and other assorted scum. They want motherhood and family and they hate the rat race working world but they have been duped into believing they are less of a woman if they don't compete with the boys. These women are victims and need to be told that their desires are not wrong and infact the people who told them to give up a family and die alone so a corporation can eat up their youth are actually evil monsters who want to damn an entire generation of women to a life of lonely suffering.
“Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and give unto God that which is God’s.” - Mark 12:17

Women are a part of the work force, so it would follow that many women are also ambitious. They want to become doctors, lawyers, etc. but they face an uphill battle during their careers. This is partly because women have to actually carry the kids and give birth to them, but it's more about perceptions of what it means to be a mother. Motherhood and working are presented as two mutually exclusive choices; but women dream of "having it all". So women exhaust themselves running double shifts as wage-earners outside of the home and helpmeets and mothers within the home. Meanwhile, their bosses systematically pass them over for promotions etc. because their motherhood is perceived as something less than total commitment to the boss's grind.

But I don't think the right response to this problem is to bar women from the workforce and make them all go back into the home. Men also suffer from occupational stress, and men also struggle to find the right balance between work and family. It's not as if trying to run one's household and a career at the same time is a uniquely feminine problem. There are plenty of male truckers, oil rig workers, lumberjacks, stock brokers, doctors, cops, etc. who have this problem.

The solution I believe is to learn to discern what you really want out of your life, and what things you've been trained to want but don't actually need to attain. Re-evaluate your life: at the end of your short life, are you going to wish you traded more stonks, or that you were there at your kid's birthday parties? Follow your spirit to what really moves you. Don't worry about the straw feminist who looks down on your for living your life on your terms: she's not real.

Status symbols, prestige, politics, wealth: this is all Caesar's stuff. You can't take any of it with you, and it probably won't amount to a hill of beans in retrospect. If you're not living the life you want, no amount of prestige and fame and Berkin bags is going to make that OK. These souls are as hungry ghosts, casting around for the next object they think will fill the emptiness inside. But true fulfillment doesn't come from consumerism, it comes from living a life which is meaningful. So all of that Caesar's stuff: your ambition, pride, vanity, that chip on your shoulder - consider how you can use those hungers and assets to attain what's actually meaningful to you. Caesar's stuff is temporary like the snow, so use it to the hilt to get that life the Holy Spirit guides you to. And I hope that you find that thing that makes your life worth it and run it into the ground from doing it so well.

So, I disagree with you and the author. You don't have to do what "the feminists" say you should - although I think the notion that feminists are categorically opposed to motherhood is a contrived one, and doesn't represent real-life feminist ideology. There are good men to be found on both sides of the aisle; I've learned this as I matured. It's OK to agree to disagree with your partner on a few things, so long as you agree on the important things. You don't want *a* man, you want the *right* man. And another thing I learned with age was that you don't have to check your beliefs at the door to please a man. Actually it's a pretty bad sign if you feel like you need to do that; it means you two would have trouble agreeing about anything if you were being honest with this guy.

And for what it's worth; I was 28 when I got married, and I had my daughter at 33. Approaching your late twenties is not the crisis you think it is. This is because aging is another of Caesar's things.

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meanwhile the women in the Middle East are out collecting rocks with their children and possibly painting them before the weekly stoning of the whore.
source please. I would love to know how you learned this.
 
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she’d be happily watching him troon out.
I've spent enough time on kiwifarms to know that not even the most progressive of liberal women are actually happy when their husbands troon out.

There is 1 thing in this article that's correct:
Don’t ever “feminize” yourself to appeal to a woman. Her liberal indoctrination may demand it on paper, but in reality, it will always be a turnoff.
No woman is going to be happy watching the man they subconciously want to rely on for protection turn himself into a castrato.
 
ok but is it worth it when the conservative guy just marries an asian/latina/eastern euro woman that doesn't have these problems?
Race-mix to own the Libs!

Pathetic. Enjoy your children who look nothing like you -- make ancestor cry.
She seems like a woman with absolutely no sense of self. She’s grabbed a guy and adopted his thoughts.
Perhaps the most aware comment in the thread. Most people, let alone women, have no sense of self. Their beliefs are a thin veneer of "default media schlock" they repeat because they think it's polite (incidentally, that's why controlling a country's media is so important -- not to inform the already-informed about what other people believe, but to inform the uninformed what they ought to believe).

So I kinda get what she's saying. A lot of people are afraid or embarrassed to say what they believe if it risks offending someone. If you're a man, and you say what you believe and why, without seeming apologetic about it, that's attractive to women. Why is it a shock (or a problem) that the same gender that regularly falls for shit like naturopathy or crystal healing adopts their chosen man's worldview? That's a super normal thing that happens, and has been happening for millenia.

Not to say that you should convert some true believer wokie, but again, most women are liberal by default because their exposure to the outside world is liberal by default -- arguably, a "normal woman" is preferable to the unbearable pickme """conservative""" women who are trying to monkeybranch their way to an online streaming career, like Lauren Southern or that obnoxious mutt Venti.

I'm concerned by the angry tone of some of the dudes in this thread. Are women vapid and aloof and annoying sometimes? Yes, of course... do you think you're the first generation of single men to think that? Lmao.

Unless you want to die alone, you have to pick a woman. I promise you, you will regret it if you let your life pass you by without finding someone to settle down with. Recalibrate your expectations and focus on finding someone you make a good team with, because moreso than anything else, marriage and parenthood is about teamwork -- you are far from perfect and so why would you expect her to be? There is no debt-free, 18 year old virgin without tattoos out there for you, because those are astoundingly rare in our society and chances are great that if you meet one, she can do better than you (and knows it). So pick a girl who isn't a basketcase or a nigger and treats you well, and see how far you can take it.

No one has ever been on their deathbed thinking "I wish I wasn't surrounded by family... I wish I'd played more vidya; if only I didn't have all those pesky children!"
 
ok but is it worth it when the conservative guy just marries an asian/latina/eastern euro woman that doesn't have these problems? 7 billion people on the planet. Are you really worth it?


Hell, I've known conservative guys who've married conservative African women instead of trying to convert feminists. One guy married this ethiopian chick who cooks up good food and has a collection of victorian literature.

What's funny is coming across Foreign Women that were given English names from the turn of the Century.

"What's your name something like mootoobalakongo?"

"No it's Esther"
 
source please. I would love to know how you learned this.
I was being hyperbolic but trying to set a contrast between two different cultures; with my statement of men being builders and women being supporters. When you compare men and women who are... let's just say, "very concerned" about their community and place a large emphasis on being part of that community, women can and will take it to an extreme. I'm not saying men don't, but it's one of those things where it's more likely to be a woman.

PTA Meetings, City Council Meetings, Church, etc; a lot of community events and what-not, women are more likely to be interested/committed to such things, and exude a lot more fervor over things.
 
I promise you, you will regret it if you let your life pass you by without finding someone to settle down with.
When exactly does this happen? Because I've been told this by people for a very long time and it hasn't happened yet.

I mean, if I'm only going to suddenly regret the last few years of my life and the rest of it will be spent in peaceful, annoyance-free solitude, I'm willing to make that deal.
 
Lol no. I've seen the pickings out there and they're getting worse.

They're getting fatter and fatter and poorer.
Men in America are on average somewhat fatter than the women. But anyone who approaches dating like you do deserves to be alone imo
I was being hyperbolic but trying to set a contrast between two different cultures;
Maybe you should just stick with the truth.
When exactly does this happen? Because I've been told this by people for a very long time and it hasn't happened yet.

I mean, if I'm only going to suddenly regret the last few years of my life and the rest of it will be spent in peaceful, annoyance-free solitude, I'm willing to make that deal.
For some people never. If you think having a partner is “annoying”, don’t get one. The women you will never date thank you in advance.
 
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