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the sooner the ADL dies the happier i’ll be so I’m looking forward to this
I’m pretty certain it won’t go anywhere, but even the possibility of it happening has me a bit happier so idc
 
I think Elon is genuinely retarded. How come nobody screenshot this 20IQ take?
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So he's pro free speech but against parts of free speech he dislikes. Like almost every fucking soul on the planet.
I thought it's a meme by now that everyone knows that we only need FS for opinions that are incredibly controversial and would cause serious reactions. Nobody needs free speech to say Bleq/Trans Lives Matter or Protect Trans Children.
Replies contain vast numbers of complete retards.
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By these schizo standards, I have free speech in EU. It just happens that I would be taken to jail if I deny specific events or mock specific ethnic groups. Free as a bird - who would need anything more?
 
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AgendaPoster said:
I think Elon is genuinely retarded. How come nobody screenshot this 20IQ take?
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There is a more generous interpretation. One can be against a view without wanting that view to be censored. He is accused of anti-Semitism because he is not banning "anti-Semites" from his platform. His tweet here could mean that he opposes anti-Semitism but doesn't censor it because he supports free speech.

Is there additional context that supports the interpretation that he supports free speech only as long as it's not bad?
 
WhiteNight said:
Is there additional context that supports the interpretation that he supports free speech only as long as it's not bad?
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He banned (most) anti-Semites, he's (largely) wrongly accused. It's the inconsistency that's the issue. For example, he engages with Keith Woods, who is close to Nick Fuentes, spoke at American Renaissance this year, hosts people like Thomas777 and NJP and TRS. He allowed back on E. Michael Jones who is quite famous for his tradcath anti-Semitism (and anti-racism, lmao).
At the same time he purged NJP accounts, kicked Ye only to allow him back, allowed Fuentes only to reban him and so on. The moderation seems to be based on who his mods like or not, or just random. Appeals do not work. It's all chaotic.
IMO he doesn't believe in anything. He just wants ad money. He doesn't care about FoS or Jews. He just wants to be left alone to shoot rockets and shitpost while advertisers give him money and don't run away.
 
Anonitolia said:
the sooner the ADL dies the happier i’ll be so I’m looking forward to this
I’m pretty certain it won’t go anywhere, but even the possibility of it happening has me a bit happier so idc
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Think for a minute how that would even work. How would a defamation lawsuit against the ADL destroy the organization? Defamation cases are some of the longest most complex cases that can possibly be tried, ADL is literally an organization of lawyers who regularly litigate defamation, and Musk won't even pay his rent. This would be a bigger L for him than getting in the ring with Zuck.
 
Theodore Beale has weighed in and I think he has a point:

Tortious interference > Defamation.

I think Musk and many others would actually have a much stronger case concerning tortious interference. The ADL literally raises money on the basis of its successful interference in contracts between third parties to which it has no relation, and its entire modus operandi is based on tortious interference for the purposes of harming the party it is targeting.

And while defamation is extremely hard for a public figure to prove, tortious interference is usually an easily established matter of record. In the case of the ADL’s interference with X’s advertising contracts, all of the elements are observably there and could be easily proven using the communications between the ADL and the advertisers.

  • The existence of a contractual relationship or beneficial business relationship between two parties.
  • Knowledge of that relationship by a third party.
  • Intent of the third party to induce a party to the relationship to breach the relationship.
  • Lack of any privilege on the part of the third party to induce such a breach.
  • The contractual relationship is breached.
  • Damage to the party against whom the breach occurs.
If Musk actually follows through with his musings with a lawsuit for tortious interference, and if Facebook, which was also targeted by the ADL, followed suit, there is a very good chance that the ADL would be financially ruined.
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source (archived): https://archive.ph/8F0Cr
 
FarmVille said:
Well if a self-proclaimed science fiction writer and video game designer thinks Zuck and Elon are going to join forces to take down the ADL with this winning legal strategy I guess that settles it.
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A cow can still read the law.

It looks like he's right:
Say what you want about Beale, he's demonstrated a capacity to navigate law and abuse it like commies do.
I believe he was the one that came up with the idea to weaponize mandatory arbitration and anti-class-action clauses in TOS and contracts to cause 10's of millions in damage to big tech companies (see: owen benjamin indie go go)
 
I’m still new to this “Elon threatens to sue ADL” thing, but I honestly don’t see a real issue with this at all. This is no different from the situation involving James Damore getting fired and later suing reps of Google for claiming that women are not scientifically or technically astute at working in their jobs in the tech field.

ADL keeps acting as if they are the world government that puts pressure and acts as if they can censor and hide critical information that goes against Jewish people, yet when it comes to ongoing Israeli riots started by African and Eritrean refugees, they immediately go silent on behalf of the PM Netanyahu.

Either way, Elon is not wrong, even with his lolcow efforts. The real question is how much power will the ADL have when they have to do with an already massive multi billionaire like Musk who already lost money having to take on a platform like X and already knowing the backlash that comes from it.
 
Defamation requires actual malice and quantifiable harm.
The ADL has been publicly preening their malice, and the harm is quantified at between 4 billion and 22 billion dollars: enough to bankrupt the ADL.
Either way, if they add Tortious Interference to the docket, they can get the same damage judgment even if Defamation is dismissed., and the criteria for Tortious Interference are met in spades. The mission statement of the ADL as publicly trumpeted is by definition Tortious interference.
 
Lichen Bark said:
Spoiler: ADL censorship "list" dump in the future?
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Let me make a wild guess we'd be on that list.
dustbuster said:
Defamation requires actual malice and quantifiable harm.
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Only for public figures. But I think it's pretty obvious that both Musk himself and Twitter are public figures.
David Brown said:
Musk, the billionaire famous for talking mad shit and never delivering, will definitely cut down the ADL this time folks. Forget about how he buckled to advertiser boycotts in seconds when he first bought Twitter. That didn't count.
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He will cave in and settle like the cowardly faggot he is, or not even do anything at all.
 
TI is probably the better case, however I still want them to go for defamation purely because suing the Anti-Defamation League for defamation is fucking hilarious. But in all honesty, suing for both (plus anything else you can even sniff a fucking cause for) is the right play.

But also, this is Elon, so nothing will ever actually happen.
 
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