🦊 Furry Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

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The Dude said:
This is why gatekeeping is not only good and healthy, it's vital. Otherwise the freaks and degenerates take over the group and ruin it for everyone else. Lots and lots of examples of this these days.
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'take over' is historically inaccurate, it's been this way from the start. watch any conFurence video between 89 - 99 and you'll see Bob Hill walking around in a Bambi dominatrix costume, a slave auction later renamed to a pet auction, an annual strip show & worst of all, the ozone layer getting gangbanged by a mountain of silly string
 
Murry Loon said:
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time to revive this classic
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Background of all Xydexx posts: perfect.
Absurdist Laughter said:
There is a "gray muzzle" saying that convention furries stay the same age. (Gray muzzles being the older furries from the 70s to the 90's) It has held true, from what I can see, which leads me to be not too surprised by how openly autistic the fandom has become since that is the culture. Plus, furries usually attract outsiders of society hence the in your face punk jacket unironically espousing authoritarian phrases, the zoophiles, and pedophiles, etc. which tend to lean hard if not fuck you harder left.
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People age out hard from Furry, Usually.
 
Mikoyan said:
People age out hard from Furry, Usually.
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Some do, but those usually leave the fandom early. Those that stay past their mid-20s tend to stick around. Almost all of the more famous graymuzzles (read: Ken Sample, Richard Foley etc.) are still around and even post content once in a blue moon but they all lay low and don't interact with the broader community much. Mostly because, they too, are scared of what the fandom has become.

The degeneracy and overly sexual nature had been there from the very start but what changed is that nowadays people feel empowered to ooze it into the public space. It's no longer acceptable to be a freak behind closed doors where no one would actually attack them for it, it has to be mainstream and paraded around and YOU BETTER ACCEPT US or you'll feel the wrath of LGBT, damnit!
 
Fuggalope said:
It's a weird cultural shift that I can't really wrap my mind around, but I hate it.
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To add, the creation of easy echo chamber makers like telegram and discord started to make them feel even safer, these places bolstered them. While niche, it doesn't help either that VR started to become a thing, essentially giving this holy grail in which a furfag practically doesn't have to leave their fantasy (even better if they've got a tugboat).
 
Fuggalope said:
It's been interesting seeing the changes happen in the fandom. It's always had it's drama and perverts, but I noticed after 2010 it really started to ramp up.

Things went full retard after 2016. I don't know what it was about Trump, but furries fully embraced troons and socialism, and became very open and loud about their sexual degeneracy. It's seemed to have happened with several "nerdy" subcultures.

It's a weird cultural shift that I can't really wrap my mind around, but I hate it.
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Tumblr was an echo chamber back in the day where the crazies could at the very least be kept in their little corner. There was this coomer/quasi pedo lite movement that wants to liberate the idea of people having sex as teens again. Much of it is coomer brain+ dumb college students having no frame of reference outside capitalism bad, landlords are evil.

But what happened is a lot of the fujoshi fan girls and yuri creeps decided to become troons and pooners post 2015. With groups like Me too and etc... many of these nerdy creeps who used to be kinda creepy but overall not rapey decided to troon out as a way to cover up for their sex pest lite behavior. So the fujoshi fangirl who used to hit dudes with yaoi paddles 10 years ago is now an insane pooner that's trying to see how they can get me too fame.
Fag Albert said:
Those magical days when nazi furries were a funny punching bag instead of being propped up as 'the most super serious threat ever'
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The magical days where I could mastrubate to wolf dog girls in SS uniforms and not have to worry about being outed as a Nazi by some loser

(Edit this is a joke)
 
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AnOminous said:
Pretty much the Burned Furs which ended in 2001 and it's been a permanent shitshow of perversion, degeneracy and cringe since then, with no dissent allowed.
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I pretty much agree. It's gotten to the point that I have even brought up the Burned Furs to my furry friends & partially agreed with their views & the only rebuttal they have is "Some of them were homophobic & the rest ignored it" Fuck outta here. It's no wonder society is going down the shitter, disciplining or shaming others for doing heinous shit is taboo nowadays.
 
Quesursundeepimpact48 said:
I pretty much agree. It's gotten to the point that I have even brought up the Burned Furs to my furry friends & partially agreed with their views & the only rebuttal they have is "Some of them were homophobic & the rest ignored it" Fuck outta here. It's no wonder society is going down the shitter, disciplining or shaming others for doing heinous shit is taboo nowadays.
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Bro you telling me I can't Fuck 30 guys and be in a relationship with you is fascist controlling behavior. It's all so tiresome these days.
 
LeChampion1992 said:
Bro you telling me I can't Fuck 30 guys and be in a relationship with you is fascist controlling behavior. It's all so tiresome these days.
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If your partner isn't ok with you fucking around, then frankly you're the asshole. You're also the asshole for not being upfront before things got serious about your lifestyle. The only way they are the asshole is if they said they were fine with it then suddenly changed their tune or lied about being ok with it.

Most furries aren't ready for any kind of relationship beyond fuck buddies though. They just want to be able to avoid the social hangups of being sluts by pretending these relationships are more than fuck buddies. It's tiresome. Just own the fact you're a slut who sleeps around. Not that hard.
 
AngryTreeRat said:
If your partner isn't ok with you fucking around, then frankly you're the asshole. You're also the asshole for not being upfront before things got serious about your lifestyle. The only way they are the asshole is if they said they were fine with it then suddenly changed their tune or lied about being ok with it.

Most furries aren't ready for any kind of relationship beyond fuck buddies though. They just want to be able to avoid the social hangups of being sluts by pretending these relationships are more than fuck buddies. It's tiresome. Just own the fact you're a slut who sleeps around. Not that hard.
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Look don't get me wrong, I was kind of ranting against modern hoes these days. But it applies with the queer Twink as much as it applies to the art hoe.
Far too many of them think being told that having 30+ partners in a row is unhealthy= literal Nazi propaganda.
 
LeChampion1992 said:
Hope you used a condom bro because you might have gotten the clap.
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It was a trade kill, she now has monkey pox. Loon got it at a convention, first hand knowledge. Side note, where the fuck did Monkey Pox go? The fact that it got memory holed swiftly gives me pause.
 
Absurdist Laughter said:
It was a trade kill, she now has monkey pox. Loon got it at a convention, first hand knowledge. Side note, where the fuck did Monkey Pox go? The fact that it got memory holed swiftly gives me pause.
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There was already an effective vaccination out for it and clears up on its own as well so in general it wasn't the next Aids. It wouldn't have gotten any news time if they where not trying to fearmonger like it was the next Covid. Its kind of like when E.coli/bird flu/swine flu was a huge pandemic that was going to kill millions but ended up being farts in the wind.
 
I feel like we're getting off-topic by lamenting the fandom, so let's bring it back to furry convention drama cause something just happened today:


Furpocalypse 2023 is slated to happen in Stamford, Connecticut around Halloween. If that name sounds familiar, it was mentioned earlier in this thread as the con with the gross and run-down hotel they were locked into due to contractual issues. While that hotel eventually shut down, the convention was able to relocate to a much nicer location for 2022 and apparently didn't have much drama behind the new location.

Anyways, earlier today, Furpoc started randomly emailing furries and telling them that their hotel reservations were canceled. They apparently overbooked the hotel so they started kicking people off the convention block, seemingly picked at random. This section was also added to their website to explain what was going on:
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OVERFLOW HOTEL AND BOOKING ISSUE UPDATE
Hello Furpocalypse Attendees,

We would like to update you all with an issue that has arisen after our hotel booking was completed. After selling out we were informed the number of bookings allowed exceeded the number of rooms available, therefore there are a number of hotel reservations that must be canceled. We have already notified people via email if they were affected by this issue prior to this statement being released.

If you have not received an email from us your reservation has not been affected. The hotel will be reaching out to confirm cancellations in the next day or two and we understand how frustrating this is.

We have worked with a partner hotel in Stamford to secure these attendees affected by this issue at The Stamford Hotel located at 700 E Main St, Stamford, CT 06901. The same room style that was booked in the main hotel will be secured at the overflow.

Furpocalypse has also contracted with an executive shuttle service to ferry any attendee or their guests to and from the overflow hotel at no cost to you. This shuttle will be a fursuit-friendly walk on style bus.

This shuttle will tentatively run:
Thursday 3pm-11pm
Friday 9am -2am
Saturday 9am -2am
Sunday 9am – 6pm

We are still in talks with the overflow hotel on how people who were unable to book a room at the main hotel after the sellout can go about booking rooms at the overflow and take advantage of this shuttle service.

We have done everything possible on our end to make this right for you, our attendee, in hopes that those affected still join us for 2023. Once again, we sincerely apologize on behalf of Furpocalypse for this inconvenience.

Regards,
Mr. DeWolfe & The Furpocalypse Board of Directors

Here's a copy of the email they sent to furries who had their rooms canceled:
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Good evening Furpocalypse hotel booker,

We regret to inform you that your hotel reservation for Furpocalypse 2023 has been canceled in the main hotel due to errors in the booking process. The number of bookings allowed exceeded the number of rooms available, therefore there are a number of reservations that must be refunded. The hotel will be reaching out to confirm your cancellation in the next day or two. We understand how frustrating this is.

We have worked with a partner hotel in Stamford to secure you a room and have your reservation transferred to The Stamford Hotel located at 700 E Main St, Stamford, CT 06901. We have negotiated the same rate as you were paying at The Armon and have the parking fee of $10 a day covered by the convention.

Furpocalypse has also contracted with an executive shuttle service to ferry any attendee or their guests to and from the overflow hotel at no cost to you. This shuttle will be a fursuit-friendly walk on style bus.

This shuttle will tentatively run:
Thursday 3pm-11pm
Friday 9am -2am
Saturday 9am -2am
Sunday 9am - 6pm

In addition, Furpocalypse would like to extend you a complimentary basic registration for this year. If you have already booked we will refund you the cost of basic registration. If you have booked at a sponsor level or above we will refund you the cost of basic reg against your higher tier. If you have not registered for the convention yet, we will send you a coupon code for free basic registration.

If you have already registered for the convention please reply to this email with your order number and we will work on processing your refund for complementary registration. If you have not registered please reply with your email address and we will send you a coupon code.

If you would like to cancel your hotel reservation altogether and not be booked into the overflow hotel please reach out to us and we will process your cancellation with the overflow hotel.

If you would like to defer your 2023 registration and have a credit applied to next year we will gladly accommodate your wish. You may also request a complete cancellation of your registration and a refund to your original payment method.

We have done everything possible on our end to make this right for you, our attendee, in hopes that you'll still join us for 2023. We were hoping that the booking process would have gone as smoothly as we expected but unfortunately it did not.

Please contact us at hotel@furpocalypse.org or by replying to this message with any questions and we will get back to you as soon as possible. Once again, we sincerely apologize on behalf of Furpocalypse for this inconvenience.

Regards,
Mr. Nico DeWolfe and the Furpocalypse Board of Directors

To Furpoc's credit, they did get reservations transferred to an overflow hotel for the same rate people were already paying, offered to compensate for basic-tier registrations, and arranged a shuttle service to drive between the hotels. However, given the fact that the two hotels aren't exactly within walking distance of each other, I don't think a lot of furries who were kicked are going to take kindly to this.
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EDIT: Furpoc is responding to furries on Twitter. Archive here. Replies don't seem to be caught by archives anymore, so here's some screenshots:
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Pinball 2000 said:
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34 min walk between hotels
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see here's why I don't get why there's a con in CT, if New Jersey isn't purgatory then Connecticut certainly is

a 30 min walk is at least better than being put into a Super 8 or taking years off your life inhaling the rankest of molds

anyways con seems to have handled this as best as they could but I'll keep the popcorn ready
 
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