MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.

Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)

 

[DZ 305]

Does being a Clinton shill pay well? I could use some extra income and boy can I shitpost.

I am allowed to hate them both, and I do. Saying an unborn child lacks constitutional rights is royally fucked. But please, give me your honest assesment of Mr. Trump's political stances and his personal character. Then explain to me why I should vote for a man like him without bringing Clinton up. I have yet to be given an answer that didn't rely on name dropping Clinton.

Well, your NEA and AFT backed "fad" is policy in 42 states. Only four have backed out so far. Seems I could go to almost any member of the AFT to find justification. And, conversely, I could talk to any parent who has seen their child's math homework to find derision.


Not quite the spread on opinions you are representing.

It was seen as much needed reform since the Federal goverment made it OK to encourage test taking over actual learning, and it's popularity and hype crashed after people saw it was a shitty idea cooked up by unionized teachers, but without putting parents and children first. It was so shit, Congress and Obama agreed on a bill that would repeal No Child Left Behind and stop the Department of Education from offering wavers meant for still struggling schools. They were using those wavers so states would adopt Common Core. It was easy finding people who voiced their concerns state education went full retard. It was frustrating explaining being in opposition to what a bunch of illinformed parents thought was reform,while idiots who were also against it claimed it was a trojan horse for Uncle Sam to sneak in and hijack education of states, Orwellian-style.

 

[muina]

Does being a Clinton shill pay well? I could use some extra income and boy can I shitpost.

You hit your head today

At least with Hillary we sort of also get Bill again and AFAIK he was a decent president aside from the Lewinsky bullshit.

And Hillary at least knows when to keep her mouth shut. That 'encouragement' Trump gave to the Russians and the massive backpedaling the Republicans have been doing since to try and play it off as 'sarcasm' ever since? That fucker is going to cause a massive international incident because he has no brain-to-mouth function. Additionally, the fact that almost every single world leader who fucking hates the USA are clearly in favor of electing him is not a good thing - because they see him for the weak and ineffectual leader he is and they could play him like a piano. The Hitler comparisons are ironic considering he'd really be Chamberlain and he'd basically be repeating the mistake that was appeasement.

Implying the russians wouldn't have done it anyway.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Implying the russians wouldn't have done it anyway.

Well, that goes without saying.

The point is Trump outright took a national security incident and literally asked Russia to fuck with America's cyber security some more as a joke. Clinton keeps getting shit over the email leaks but Trump was actively encouraging foreign espionage.

 

[QI 541]

Well, that goes without saying.

The point is Trump outright took a national security incident and literally asked Russia to fuck with America's cyber security some more as a joke. Clinton keeps getting shit over the email leaks but Trump was actively encouraging foreign espionage.

Trump is only joking and shit-talking about causing a national security incident. Clinton actually caused one.

 

[Picklechu]

This has been the best night of the DNC. I would be worried, though, were I a Democrat, about a large enough percentage of Sanders supporters voting for Jill Stein in November, since it's clear that Clinton is trying to appeal to centrists, independents, and Republicans. If it's a close election, this could end up backfiring.

 

[Spellskite]

Well, that goes without saying.

The point is Trump outright took a national security incident and literally asked Russia to fuck with America's cyber security some more as a joke. Clinton keeps getting shit over the email leaks but Trump was actively encouraging foreign espionage.

I think Trump is a piece of shit, but honestly I can see why he did this. At the height of the DNC, tweets by Trump drew the attention back towards himself, and more importantly, drew more attention to the email scandal. It makes sense, and he can count on the WOAH WOAH GUYS I WAS JUST SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF defense he's been coasting on for a year and his mouthbreather fans will work hard to defend him. Probably one of the more logically sound decisions he has made in a while.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Trump is only joking and shit-talking about causing a national security incident. Clinton actually caused one.

Yeah, except what makes him think that just because the Russians hacked the Dems doesn't mean they also can't get into the Republican emails?

And I guarantee it was not a joke when those words left Trump's mouth. That is a man who gleefully demands that a court be thrown out because the judge 'is biased against him because he's MEXICAN' - which only makes sense even by Trump logic if you consider the infamous wall speech where Trump outright said all Mexcians were rapists, drug dealers, etc. and then backpedaled in the same breath.

Plus, Benghazi was four years ago - the Russians hacking the Dems is now. And Trump endorsed that espionage on television, before all the backpedaling 'oh, it was just a joke!' shit came out a day later.

I think Trump is a piece of shit, but honestly I can see why he did this. At the height of the DNC, tweets by Trump drew the attention back towards himself, and more importantly, drew more attention to the email scandal. It makes sense, and he can count on the WOAH WOAH GUYS I WAS JUST SPEAKING OFF THE CUFF defense he's been coasting on for a year and his mouthbreather fans will do the rest. Probably one of the more logically sound decisions he has made in a while.

Yeah, but that's the rub - once the email shit blows over (relatively speaking) then unless the Dems really screw up there isn't much for Trump to ride on. The dude's only lasting success was hosting The Apprentice, everything else has gone bankrupt, turned into a scam (which he tried to kill the lawsuit over by claiming the judge was biased against him because of his race), has split the Republican party in half since even that crackpot Ted Cruz was sensible enough to not endorse his ass, and he has absolutely no credible foreign policy beyond trying to make Mexico pay for a wall that can not be built because physics.

He talks big, but has absolutely nothing to back any of it up without having to play the comparison game to the Dems. And even jokingly encouraging a national security problem in the worst way is starting to really be worrying that this shithead legitimately has a chance of becoming the president.

 

[muina]

Being a retard =/= letting your suppporters/members go through corrupt tactics or sabotage candidates.

 

[Joan Nyan]

Then explain to me why I should vote for a man like him without bringing Clinton up. I have yet to be given an answer that did

He's going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.

 

[Sgt Oddball]

I like how we're now talking about the Russians being behind the hack like it's a fact and not a desperate face saving maneuver

For those of you who miss out on things like tone and subtext, Trump clearly isn't taking the Russian conspiracy theory seriously and was making fun of it in his statement.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I like how we're now talking about the Russians being behind the hack like it's a fact and not a desperate face saving manuever

I recall it being confirmed by some non-republicans at some point, but I can't be for sure - need to verify with my sources.

 

[Pikimon]

He's going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it.

lol how

 

[Joan Nyan]

lol how

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

 

[Pikimon]

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

"They receive approximately $24 billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United States. The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de facto welfare for poor families in Mexico. There is no significant social safety net provided by the state in Mexico."

lol so much for small government, now we're going to be paying for Mexico's welfare

 

[Gym Leader Elesa]

Conclusion: Mexico has taken advantage of us in another way as well: gangs, drug traffickers and cartels have freely exploited our open borders and committed vast numbers of crimes inside the United States. The United States has borne the extraordinary daily cost of this criminal activity, including the cost of trials and incarcerations. Not to mention the even greater human cost. We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage. It is time we use it in order to Make America Great Again.

> implying America has open borders
> implying Mexico's nearly endless series of drug-related civil wars hurt America "the most"
> implying you have the moral high ground and leverage over a country currently taking in more of your citizens than you are of its

 

[Mr. Duck]

I usually don't care too much about politics outside my country in general, but this whole shitshow has been the most entretaining thing i've watched in the last few months, both candidates are absolute shit and the US will be fucked either way, and while i think Trump is a moron, i'd rather see him as president than Hillary, even if i don't agree with a lot of the things he proposes.

Spoiler

I'd still rather try to live in the US in the near future than my country though

 

[Joan Nyan]

"They receive approximately $24 billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United States. The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de facto welfare for poor families in Mexico. There is no significant social safety net provided by the state in Mexico."

lol so much for small government, now we're going to be paying for Mexico's welfare

We already do, he's going to threaten to cut it off.

> implying America has open borders

They're too open

> implying Mexico's nearly endless series of drug-related civil wars hurt America "the most"

He didn't say that

> implying you have the moral high ground and leverage over a country currently taking in more of your citizens than you are of its

What do the rates of US to Mexico immigration have to do with moral high ground or leverage? They're the ones starting the drug wars and with all the money flowing to them we do have leverage.

 

[Gym Leader Elesa]

He didn't say that

The United States has borne the extraordinary daily cost of this criminal activity

They're too open

Spoiler: Are you sure?

Maybe American and global conceptions of open, non-militarized borders, differ vastly.

What do the rates of US to Mexico immigration have to do with moral high ground or leverage? They're the ones starting the drug wars and with all the money flowing to them we do have leverage.

Because a lot of his argument doesn't revolve around drug wars. It revolves simply on "the immigrants are flooding over here and taking jobs from hardworking Americans." Though he has, he very rarely touches on anything but illegal immigration itself. It is very worth noting that more Americans immigrate to Mexico than the other way around, these days. Maybe they should build a wall and America should pay for it?

 

[Joan Nyan]

The United States has borne the extraordinary daily cost of this criminal activity

That doesn't mean "the most"

Maybe American and global conceptions of open, non-militarized borders, differ vastly.

Some parts are more defended than others.

Because a lot of his argument doesn't revolve around drug wars. It revolves simply on "the immigrants are flooding over here and taking jobs from hardworking Americans." Though he has, he very rarely touches on anything but illegal immigration itself.

Americans are going to Mexico for work because Mexicans came here and took our work first, it's a vicious cycle.

It is very worth noting that more Americans immigrate to Mexico than the other way around, these days. Maybe they should build a wall and America should pay for it?

They can try, I wouldn't blame them.

 

[Spellskite]

Some parts are more defended than others.

Did you just google "Mexican border"?