Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Anonitolia said:
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he cute

Anyway, let's post our unpopular opinions regarding the series' human characters. I'll start by saying that Team Plasma fucking BLOWS.
(spoilered, autistic rant warning)
First of all, there's the whole premise: "trainer battles are bad therefore we must liberate all pokemon from their trainers". On one hand, it's a seemingly good motivation and raises some questions regarding the Pokemon universe's morality. But on the other hand, it's applying real-life sensibilities to a fictional universe, so like, who the fuck cares? The kids aren't gonna go out and try to make their cats or dogs fight IRL, so what's the point of even trying to say that Pokémon fights may or may not be that good?
And then this premise is taken out back and shot in the head by the reveal that Team Plasma is nothing but a front for Ghetsis to take over Unova. So this renders all of the moral questions one might have irrelevant, because the answer is "lol doesn't matter, Ghetsis is evil therefore Plasma wrong". But then there's also the explanation that Pokémon actually enjoy fighting, which retroactively renders Team Plasma's motivation fucking stupid anyway.
Then we get to the characters representing Plasma, starting with N. He's too preachy at times, but the real problem is the whole Jesus allegory the game keeps trying to push. Logically speaking, he shouldn't have even gotten either Reshiram or Zekrom, since he is operating under an objectively and blatantly false premise, even though he might have good intentions, and therefore they should have been able to see right through him. Other than that, he's okay, I don't really have much else to say about him.
The sages are barely there. On one hand, it makes sense since they're just the leadership and not Plasma's acting forces. On the other hand, it sometimes feels like they could have just been removed and not much would really change. At least Zonzolin and Bronius do shit in the sequels.
The same goes for the two sisters that helped raise N, but it hurts more in this instance, since it feels like they actually could be interesting characters, but they just... don't do anything of note at all, except give you some background info on N.
The Shadow Triad are just... there. The only noteworthy thing they do is in the sequels, where they stall the player so Ghetsis can get the DNA splicers.
Then we get to Ghetsis, who I unironically think is the worst part of Plasma, and here's why:
- First of all, it's blatantly clear he's the main villain from the moment you first see him. But you have to wait until the very end for his paper-thin disguise to drop, leaving you to deal with his preachy faggot son for most of the game.
- Second of all, he has an incredibly stupid plan. Raising your son in isolation to be a puppet king that wholeheartedly believes whatever you say? Good, smart. Letting your son free to roam Unova without supervision so he can see firsthand things that directly contradict his beliefs and render them wrong entirely? Fucking retarded. It's a miracle that N took so long to catch on.
He *does* get better in the sequels, as does Team Plasma, but then they're just turned into "Team Rocket... but with an airship!"
Lasttly, there's Colress, the best member of Team Plasma. I have nothing bad to say about him, except that it sort of feels like the writers only remembered that he's supposed to be a bad guy towards the end, with his little speech about being okay with Plasma freezing all of Unova.
 
Kid Named Rocket said:
let's post our unpopular opinions regarding the series' human characters
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I don't like the fact that they exist in any significant capacity at all
The only tolerable evil teams are Skull (for one playthrough), Gen 1 Rocket (because they're a side attraction instead of the main focus), and Aqua/Magma (so bad they're good)
Every other one is shit
Plasma was the closest to being genuinely good but kind of shot itself in the foot due to the setting and tone of the series (if it was pg-13 and not as mainstream I feel they could've gotten away with much more, but by that point Pokémon was a massive multimedia juggernaut and they probably knew they couldn't take too many risks) as well as the whole shitty twist near the end (still makes sense, but it undermines a lot of the moral ambiguity that was supposed to be a lot of the point)
Not a single companion is likeable, most rivals are dogshit (Gen 5's are good after the slow start and Blue is alright but the others suck), gym leaders/champions are nonentities as are admins

The fact that the series has started focusing more on the characters than the mons is a tragedy (even though I know it's for easy merch sales), especially when combined with the increased focus on story, and I will forever curse the retards drooling over people like the fucking Subway twins or Cynthia for the increased focus

(in regards to the not-Terapagos: I think it's a little bit overdesigned (really really doesn't need all those bangles AND the stars on the knees, they should've gone for one or the other) but otherwise kind of inoffensive. A bit of a welcome change from how disgustingly bad the gen 9 dex is, but nothing really spectacular)
 
The Ultimate Ramotith said:
So, a new Pokémon (forme) got released.
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New Pokémon Revealed For Scarlet & Violet DLC In 'Pokémon Horizons' Anime

Update: New details shared by The Pokémon Company
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I say that is a pre-evolution of Tierrapagos, though there is talk abou this being a depowered forme.
(Th is going in my hack either way, though I am really starting to feel the pinc, here.)
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looks like straight outta the popular groomer franchise " my little turtle - autism is magic"
When Genwunner said Gen 5 pokemon dont look like pokemon, they didn't knew what was awaiting them down the road of mediocracy.
 
I want to meet the head programmer for tera raids, I then want to break his fingers. In theory I wouldn't mind them being used to fuel all the other activities in-game but they're so ridiculously jank and buggy I can't tolerate them for long. I'd much rather hack in 999 herba mystica and be done with them.

Let's not get into shoving Walking Wake behind a raid instead of it being a roaming legendary in an open world game. What a waste.
 
Kid Named Rocket said:
And then this premise is taken out back and shot in the head by the reveal that Team Plasma is nothing but a front for Ghetsis to take over Unova. So this renders all of the moral questions one might have irrelevant, because the answer is "lol doesn't matter, Ghetsis is evil therefore Plasma wrong". But then there's also the explanation that Pokémon actually enjoy fighting, which retroactively renders Team Plasma's motivation fucking stupid anyway.
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This is why I can't get get behind all the praise that BW's plots gets, it feels like the writers saw a Dorkly bit and had to base the story around it.
This could've worked in Gen 1 but by the time Gen 5 arrived Pokemon established way too hard how important battles are and that there's nothing wrong with it in this universe. N just feels like such a waste because he is so obviously in the wrong but constantly dumps his preachy dialogue on the brickwall of a player character anyway.
At least Plasma has a banger battle theme.
 
Damn, I was focused on filling up my Pokedex in Scarlet and I missed out on getting Typhlosion. But I’m being brutally honest the past few 7-star raids have been skippable for me, I think the last one I did was either Cinderace or Greninja.

Oh, and the Pokémon TCG scene has been roiling over a major theft that occurred at one of the TCG’s printing plants back in 2021 involving one set’s Secret Rares. Here’s the pic that’s going around social media that shows said thief trying to sell these ill-gotten cards at an LGS. There’s another photo floating around showing someone with two stacks of the two most-expensive Alternate Art cards (and one partially-hidden stack showing a Hyper Rare) from the set prior but people are suspecting that one’s either fake or consisting of cards rejected during the QC phase of printing.
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The store that this guy tried to sell to posted a response after the pic went viral, it basically said that they reported this to TPCi when the guy tried to sell the cards and TPCi launched an investigation into the theft and the store was asked to keep quiet about it until said investigation was over.
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Meanwhile, sites like Pokébeach and YouTubers like RattlePokémon are reporting on it but mentioning that it had little-to-no effect on pulls from those specific sets. If you ask me I think they’re full of shit in regards to this having no effect on pull rates, especially when RattlePokemon is known to be friends with Gary Haase AKA Gary “King Pokemon“.
 
Anyone tried playing Infinite Fusion? I'm absolutely loving it. Some of the fusions are perfectly atrocious, but then there are tons that are just incredible.

Anything Mr.Mime is cursed anything Duskull is crazy good.
 
SAFSPRIN said:
Anyone tried playing Infinite Fusion? I'm absolutely loving it. Some of the fusions are perfectly atrocious, but then there are tons that are just incredible.

Anything Mr.Mime is cursed anything Duskull is crazy good.
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I have. Haven't gone past the grass type gym yet.
 
Team Plasma is the best Mainline Pokemon evil teams will ever get.
You've got a halfway decent plotline that doesn't get annoying while replaying gen 5, a boss that puts up a cynthia tier fight and some variety in the goons pokemon.The sages are important because they are so mysterious. When i first played black, i always thought you'll fight em at some point and when the gym leaders showed up to take them on it was kinda badass.

Guzma is best boss because he's hard to beat, has some funny punchlines and is just a giant street thug leader, no fancy anime villain with a plan as dumb as unrealistic. Aether was predictable and annoying because of the family drama textbox spam but lusamine is a unique "boss", plus the cooperation with skull was at least something new.

Giovanni is just there and Cyrus is terrifiying because he never reveals his motives like lyssandre did, he is the terminator kind of enemy that just moves forward without a reason and you have to stop him or else.
The rest is trash.
If youre looking for a good villain in Pokemon, Dusknoir from Mystery Dungeon 2 is what possibly comes closest.
 
Team Plasma was never meant to be deep commentary on the series and I think people going in to BW’s plot expecting them to be will get disappointed. Their whole purpose was to create a cult and manipulate people into releasing their Pokemon so they could take over without resistance.

Also Hugh is a great rival who gets a lot of unfair hate for the Purrloin plot. The Pokemon belonged to his sister and was a gift from their dead grand father so of course he’s going to be pissed. He even clearly explains to one of the Sages why he is after a specific Purrloin. I’ve seen people say he should have just caught his sister another Purrloin since it’s a common Pokemon and she wouldn’t tell the difference. Because we all know the solution to a pet going missing is to replace it with a look alike behind a child’s back and pretend it’s the same animal. Pokemon fans lack both reading comprehension skills and empathy.
 
Executive Petrel said:
Guzma is best boss because he's hard to beat, has some funny punchlines and is just a giant street thug leader, no fancy anime villain with a plan as dumb as unrealistic
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Team Skull is the best because it’s just a bunch of directionless shit-kid teenagers being obnoxious and destructive. For a series that starts with organized crime and has fine up to genocide, it was fun and refreshing.
 
Fuck it, I'll say it - I didn't mind Team Yell. Did they have any bearing on the actual plot of Gen 8, no none whatsoever, but considering Gen 8 was basically "Pokemon treated as Football", the Obligatory Evil Team just being Football Hooligans was a nice change. Shame they were basically there to simp for an underage girl. Same deal with Team Skull - they were just a random gang, but Guzma was the MVP.

After 6 Gens of escalation of the Evil Teams, I'm happy with them being more toned down for a bit.
 
I really want an actual evil team again. Them being too grandiose got stale, but three teams in a row that are just annoying hooligans got boring way faster.
 
More information regarding the factory-level TCG theft, an official statement from TPCi in this case, has just come out but I wonder if this is better off in A&H rather than here considering that the update (and an article Monday) was posted by Kotaku.

Here's the text from Pokebeach's article...
TPCi has provided a statement to our good friends at ComicBook.com conveying that no products were impacted by the factory theft that recently came to light.

“We take the protection of our IP and associated products very seriously. This matter remains under investigation and we cannot comment on details at this time. However, we can confirm that Sword & Shield booster packs and products were shipped to retail as intended and we have no indication that the integrity of the products were impacted by any confirmed or unconfirmed theft. Furthermore, we continue to significantly invest in both the production and security of our TCG business. We value the faith our fans put in us and our products, and these investments are intended to help us continue to maintain their trust.”

The company does not confirm or deny that any theft took place, likely because there is ongoing litigation.

As explained in our first news story, it would be difficult for booster packs to be compromised at the factory due to various checks and balances in place. This includes pack weighing and the way machines load different boxes of rarities into the booster packs.
The cards seem to haven been stolen during the production phase when they’re stored in boxes (the secret rares are printed separately from other cards because of their texture). The secret rares are printed on large sheets, cut into individual cards, and stored in long white boxes. At least five of those white boxes are packed into a cardboard box that’s sent off to machines that sort the cards into booster packs. The machine loads different boxes of cards into each booster pack depending on their rarity. We imagine the sorting machines alert the workers when they’re running low on certain rarities, meaning packs shouldn’t have escaped the factory without the proper rate of secret rares. Otherwise it would be common for packs to be missing cards.

The factories also weigh every single booster pack. This not only ensures the packs have the proper amount of cards in them, but it’s also so they know what code card to insert into the packs. Secret rares are heavier than a normal card, so lighter code cards are put into the packs to cancel out the weight difference. (This prevents pack weighing on the aftermarket.) So it’s unlikely packs with improper weights would have left the factory floor, let alone on a scale large enough to impact the entire print run. There’s multiple checks and balances in place.
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And yes, Fusion Strike just had bad pull rates — as the following data from our friends at TCGplayer shows. Luckily we’re seeing better pull rates in Scarlet & Violet:
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Again, I'd take the the whole "this theft did not impact of the integrity of the products" even if it's from the horse's mouth considering that the horse in question is an American branch of a Japanese company.
 
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