Science Use 'egg-producing' not 'female', say scientists in call to phase out binary language - "Experts say other terms that could be problematic include man, woman, mother and father as well as 'survival of the fittest'"

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The words “male” and “female” should be phased out in science because they reinforce ideas that sex is binary, scientists have suggested.

Researchers studying ecology and evolutionary biology should be encouraged to use terms such as “sperm-producing” or “egg producing” or “XY/XX individual” to avoid “emphasising hetero-normative views”, experts say.

Other words and terms deemed problematic include man, woman, mother, father, primitive, advanced, alien, invasive, exotic, non-native and race.

The terms were gathered as part of the EEB (Ecology and Evolutionary Biology) Language Project, founded by a collaboration of scientists in the US and Canada who claim some terminology is not inclusive, and could be harmful.

Even one of the most famous scientific concepts of all time, the “survival of the fittest”, should no longer be used because it discriminates against people with disabilities and is linked to eugenics, they advise.

Speaking about the term "fitness" - widely used in biology to signify the success of a species in its habitat - Haley Branch, a doctoral candidate at the University of British Columbia (UBC) said: “The definition is about reproductive output, which doesn't take into account individuals that don't produce offspring.”

However, critics warned that abandoning traditional terms for the sake of inclusivity could leave science lacking precision, as well as causing confusion.

Prof Frank Furedi, an education expert at the University of Kent, said: “I think that when you characterise terms like male/female, mother/father as harmful you are abandoning science for ideological advocacy.

“Regardless of intent, the project of re-engineering language will cause confusion to many and the last thing that scientists need is a lack of clarity about the meaning of the words they use.”

The EEB Language Project, which was launched in this month’s Trends in Ecology and Evolution journal, is compiling a repository of “problematic” words that have been identified by scientists as harmful and suggests alternatives.

For example, they have flagged up the term “citizen science” saying it could be “harmful to non-citizens” who may feel excluded. Instead, they suggest “participant science or community science”.

The term “invasive” or “non-native species” is also deemed to be “xenophobic, anti-immigrant, and militaristic”, and could be replaced with “newly-arrived” or “nuisance species”, they suggest.

Even the phrase “double-blind” - which is often used to describe trials in which neither the participants nor scientists know if they are on a drug or placebo - has been deemed potentially offensive to those with disabilities.

Other words such as “optimisation” can be misleading, the scientists claim, because it perpetuates the idea that a species is evolving towards a defined permanent optimum.

Dr Danielle Ignace of UBC said: “The EEB Language Project will be a living document, as particular words that are harmful and their alternatives can change over time.

“People can submit their suggestions online and have their voices heard. They can also get more involved as an individual, as an institution, or at the community level. The hope is that this grassroots effort brings people together.”

The EEB Language Project said it will “provide resources and support action to reconsider harmful terminology at the levels of individuals, institutions and broader scientific communities”.

Proponents of the changes say that although the use of “harmful” language is not usually intentional they warn “inadvertent harm” can arise as a result of the “inherent complexities and historical legacies of language”.

Changing terminology is something that individual researchers can do to boost inclusivity at an individual level, they said.

Dr Kaitlyn Gaynor, an author on the paper who studies the impact of human activity on biodiversity at the university, said: “The project started as a Twitter conversation among a few people discussing potentially harmful terminology.

“We reached out to different networks in ecology and evolution that were focused on increasing inclusion and equity in the field to rally support for one very specific action - revising terminology that might be harmful to certain people, particularly those from groups historically and currently excluded from science.”

 
Honestly it's very weird and bit scary to see this sub-section of women (such as the writer and tranny handmaidens in general, that are usually from 1st world place like Commiefornia) who are more than eager to devalue themselves by being called "menstruators", "bleeders" and whatever derogatory names they try to parade as progressive and throw the rest of women (who are fine and content with who they are) under a bus , all for the approval from mentally ill people, who will eventually cannibalize them once they outlive their usefulness to them.
These are the women who throughout history were ok with men not allowing them to attend school, they were ok with being beaten by men, being forced to get their feet mutilated to appeal to men, they were ok with being forced into a shed while menstruating. They are the women who stay in domestic violence situations. These are the women who uphold the usage of burkas. They allow it to happen to themselves. They want every woman who finds a loving man to live poorly. They don't want women to be equal to men, they want to be treated like animals.

It's not enough for men to give women rights, there are some women who don't want or even realize they CAN have rights. Frankly, if you've taken a dehydrated horse to water and it doesn't drink, it either has a physical ailment needing treatment or mental issues and must therefore be put down. We can't say that for humans because of "people" who think every human has potential to be a rocket scientist.
 
does anyone realize how mysonginist this shit sounds
literally calling women, womb person, period havers and egg producers.
that sounds like incel shit.
 
When $cience ignores biology.
The irony is that this is in fact biologically accurate, as defined below:

Not quite. Sexual reproduction requires two types of gametes of different sizes. Therefore there are only two sexes:
Larger = egg = female.
Smaller = sperm = male.

Women are by definition the "egg producers" of the species.

The thing is, let's imagine we get rid of "male" and "female" and change it to "egg producer" and "sperm producer"... which one you think trans women will like to be part of? I can assure you that none of them would want to be the "sperm producer" because they aren't stupid and they know that's being a man. Even if they say they don't produce sperm, they still can't produce a freaking egg.

Just as an experiment, we should go for it.
 
But sex IS binary! JFC these fucks are trying to force the scientific world to start ignoring scientific and factual reality! They want mother and father gone too?

Who exactly makes up the group behind this? From the sound if it it seems like a handful of "scientific" nobodies huffing and puffing on social media. These aren't "experts" they are ideologues!

Pro tip to anyone thinking about listening to these ghouls.. If someone used a term like "egg producing" in place of female or some other shit like that.. Not only would I instantly be forced to question your basic ability to logically reason, but also disregard you entirely. Especially in a professional context!


So what happens when women reach that age where they are no longer "egg-producing"?

Their favorite argument when trying to argue for ignoring biology too. So does this make them non-eggers but still woman? This just goes to show how ridiculous this is and how little it was thought out. (or how little they cared about it making sense or being usable)
 
Women are by definition the "egg producers" of the species.

The thing is, let's imagine we get rid of "male" and "female" and change it to "egg producer" and "sperm producer"... which one you think trans women will like to be part of? I can assure you that none of them would want to be the "sperm producer" because they aren't stupid and they know that's being a man. Even if they say they don't produce sperm, they still can't produce a freaking egg.

Just as an experiment, we should go for it.

Thats basically removing yourself from the gene pool with extra steps
 
I don't understand how this is supposed to help? A woman produces all the eggs she ever will when the ovaries develop, they are only released once a month. Even if someone stops taking only female hormones and only male ones, they were still born with all the eggs. Am I missing something?

So what you are saying is the we are born male or female?

Well I never...
 
Funny how liberalism and feminism has "progressed" to the point of reducing biological/actual women to being just baby-makers, being just ovaries, and claiming things like anyone who likes pink or wears dresses "is a woman" and if a girl doesn't act like a stereotype it means she's a man and needs surgery to change her body instead of just being accepting of and loving herself as she is.
 
The irony is that this is in fact biologically accurate, as defined below:



Women are by definition the "egg producers" of the species.

The thing is, let's imagine we get rid of "male" and "female" and change it to "egg producer" and "sperm producer"... which one you think trans women will like to be part of? I can assure you that none of them would want to be the "sperm producer" because they aren't stupid and they know that's being a man. Even if they say they don't produce sperm, they still can't produce a freaking egg.

Just as an experiment, we should go for it.

With this categorization I guess we'll just have to add a third category for them called no longer applicable unless technology reaches the point where they can some how produce eggs when they started with sperm. Eunuch might work too.
 
Funny how liberalism and feminism has "progressed" to the point of reducing biological/actual women to being just baby-makers, being just ovaries, and claiming things like anyone who likes pink or wears dresses "is a woman" and if a girl doesn't act like a stereotype it means she's a man and needs surgery to change her body instead of just being accepting of and loving herself as she is.
Just the logical end to deconstruction.
 
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