Science Use 'egg-producing' not 'female', say scientists in call to phase out binary language - "Experts say other terms that could be problematic include man, woman, mother and father as well as 'survival of the fittest'"

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The words “male” and “female” should be phased out in science because they reinforce ideas that sex is binary, scientists have suggested.

Researchers studying ecology and evolutionary biology should be encouraged to use terms such as “sperm-producing” or “egg producing” or “XY/XX individual” to avoid “emphasising hetero-normative views”, experts say.

Other words and terms deemed problematic include man, woman, mother, father, primitive, advanced, alien, invasive, exotic, non-native and race.

The terms were gathered as part of the EEB (Ecology and Evolutionary Biology) Language Project, founded by a collaboration of scientists in the US and Canada who claim some terminology is not inclusive, and could be harmful.

Even one of the most famous scientific concepts of all time, the “survival of the fittest”, should no longer be used because it discriminates against people with disabilities and is linked to eugenics, they advise.

Speaking about the term "fitness" - widely used in biology to signify the success of a species in its habitat - Haley Branch, a doctoral candidate at the University of British Columbia (UBC) said: “The definition is about reproductive output, which doesn't take into account individuals that don't produce offspring.”

However, critics warned that abandoning traditional terms for the sake of inclusivity could leave science lacking precision, as well as causing confusion.

Prof Frank Furedi, an education expert at the University of Kent, said: “I think that when you characterise terms like male/female, mother/father as harmful you are abandoning science for ideological advocacy.

“Regardless of intent, the project of re-engineering language will cause confusion to many and the last thing that scientists need is a lack of clarity about the meaning of the words they use.”

The EEB Language Project, which was launched in this month’s Trends in Ecology and Evolution journal, is compiling a repository of “problematic” words that have been identified by scientists as harmful and suggests alternatives.

For example, they have flagged up the term “citizen science” saying it could be “harmful to non-citizens” who may feel excluded. Instead, they suggest “participant science or community science”.

The term “invasive” or “non-native species” is also deemed to be “xenophobic, anti-immigrant, and militaristic”, and could be replaced with “newly-arrived” or “nuisance species”, they suggest.

Even the phrase “double-blind” - which is often used to describe trials in which neither the participants nor scientists know if they are on a drug or placebo - has been deemed potentially offensive to those with disabilities.

Other words such as “optimisation” can be misleading, the scientists claim, because it perpetuates the idea that a species is evolving towards a defined permanent optimum.

Dr Danielle Ignace of UBC said: “The EEB Language Project will be a living document, as particular words that are harmful and their alternatives can change over time.

“People can submit their suggestions online and have their voices heard. They can also get more involved as an individual, as an institution, or at the community level. The hope is that this grassroots effort brings people together.”

The EEB Language Project said it will “provide resources and support action to reconsider harmful terminology at the levels of individuals, institutions and broader scientific communities”.

Proponents of the changes say that although the use of “harmful” language is not usually intentional they warn “inadvertent harm” can arise as a result of the “inherent complexities and historical legacies of language”.

Changing terminology is something that individual researchers can do to boost inclusivity at an individual level, they said.

Dr Kaitlyn Gaynor, an author on the paper who studies the impact of human activity on biodiversity at the university, said: “The project started as a Twitter conversation among a few people discussing potentially harmful terminology.

“We reached out to different networks in ecology and evolution that were focused on increasing inclusion and equity in the field to rally support for one very specific action - revising terminology that might be harmful to certain people, particularly those from groups historically and currently excluded from science.”

 
"Experts say".

Experts on fucking what? Experts on science, whatever science is -because sciences are such a big, broad set of fields- have no saying on language because language and science are different issues. You could be a Nobel Prize biology winner and still not being able to understand how language works and what things mean because it's not your expertise.

The assumption here is that whatever a scientist says is correct because scientists are "smarter" than the rest of us. This is a very stupid assumption and whoever scientist who's on board with this, is a moron and a narcissist who chose sciences with the only purpose to being told how smart she/he is.
 
Awesome, agreed, I'm going to start calling MTFs "sperm producers."

Finally we can make some headway with language we all agree is inclusive.

"Sperm producers shouldn't play in the same sports leagues as egg producers."

"Yo sperm producer, get the fuck out of the egg producers' bathroom!"

This will never fly because all biological distinctions must be erased. They don't want you to be able to name what's different about a "trans woman."

Also, people tried this with XX/XY. And the troons said it's not inclusive because of chromosome disorders.

Well, way more people aren't sperm/egg producers than have chromosomal abnormalities.

Hell, when terves used the "egg producing animal" definition of female, trans activists said it was horrible because menopausal women, young girls, and women with reproductive disorders weren't actively producing eggs and would be left out. But of course, it's ok when the troons do it.
 
Even the phrase “double-blind” - which is often used to describe trials in which neither the participants nor scientists know if they are on a drug or placebo - has been deemed potentially offensive to those with disabilities.
Uh, you mean, like, retarded people?
 
If it's egg-producing and non-egg producing, What are the other possibilities?
Not quite. Sexual reproduction requires two types of gametes of different sizes. Therefore there are only two sexes:
Larger = egg = female.
Smaller = sperm = male.
guys, it's not male and female
it's egg producer and penis haver
It doesn't matter which of the two has a penis (maybe both or neither). It doesn't matter which of the two gets pregnant (maybe neither). It doesn't matter which of the two has the same sex chromosomes and which has different ones (or only one) -- this differs by species; female birds are XY, often termed "ZW" instead. Larger gametes = eggs = female, smaller gametes = sperm = male. If both gametes are the same size, the species is "isogamous" (doesn't have sexes).
 
Never mind women who suffer from infertility. Millions of women worldwide suffer from infertility. What if you had to have your ovaries removed? Wouldn't this language be legitimately ableist and triggering?

I love how inclusive language is always the least inclusive because it invalidates large groups of people in order to placate a few troons mad they will never be real women.
 
And this is exactly why being called a transphobe is the ultimate compliment; it means that you have both feet in reality, unlike the delusional alphabet mob who want to gaslight the population into denying the reality of binary genders.
 
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So the word female originally literally just meant egg-producing person. Males wanted to transition and become females for reason we don't need to get into, so they uncoupled the egg production part from the word female to accommodate those people. Now we're going back to sorting people by those who produce eggs and those who don't, specifically separating trans people from biological females, taking us right back where we were before this whole movement started. Now trans women are going to be mad because most men are going to specifically seek egg-producing persons on dating apps and this whole thing will happen again.

It's like people can't get it through their heads is the purposes of all these words to begin with was to classify who can carry children and who can impregnate people who carry children and that classification is incredibly useful to society as a whole, so society is just going to keep coming up with new ways to do it.
 
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Dr Kaitlyn Gaynor, an author on the paper who studies the impact of human activity on biodiversity at the university, said: “The project started as a Twitter conversation among a few people discussing potentially harmful terminology.

And there it is; point blank admitting a medium allowing people to communicate and discuss ideas that never would have been discussed prior to said medium leading to retardation being forced onto society.
 
Everytime I hear "Egg-producing" I think of an animal like a chicken or other egg laying creatures. This bullshit is going to get me even more confused.
 
I don't understand how this is supposed to help? A woman produces all the eggs she ever will when the ovaries develop, they are only released once a month. Even if someone stops taking only female hormones and only male ones, they were still born with all the eggs. Am I missing something?
 
I don't understand how this is supposed to help?
Ms.* Graynor's career advances a cunthair. That's what we are destroying the fabric of society for.

* definitely unmarried. if I'm wrong, then poor bastard
 
Honestly it's very weird and bit scary to see this sub-section of women (such as the writer and tranny handmaidens in general, that are usually from 1st world place like Commiefornia) who are more than eager to devalue themselves by being called "menstruators", "bleeders" and whatever derogatory names they try to parade as progressive and throw the rest of women (who are fine and content with who they are) under a bus , all for the approval from mentally ill people, who will eventually cannibalize them once they outlive their usefulness to them.
 
Honestly it's very weird and bit scary to see this sub-section of women (such as the writer and tranny handmaidens in general, that are usually from 1st world place like Commiefornia) who are more than eager to devalue themselves by being called "menstruators", "bleeders" and whatever derogatory names they try to parade as progressive and throw the rest of women (who are fine and content with who they are) under a bus , all for the approval from mentally ill people, who will eventually cannibalize them once they outlive their usefulness to them.
but this gives them social credits on social media
 
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