Crime A Troubled Mother Faces Murder Charges in Her Young Children’s Deaths - Strangled her three children to death with an exercise band. Was it PPD or postpartum psychosis?

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Chilling details emerged at an arraignment of Lindsay Clancy, accused of strangling her three children. Her lawyer argued she was mentally ill, but prosecutors outlined methodical planning leading to the deaths.



By Ellen Barry
Feb. 8, 2023
DUXBURY, Mass. — Lindsay Clancy lay paralyzed in a hospital bed on Tuesday afternoon, occasionally blinking or shutting her eyes, unable to do anything but listen as lawyers told two narratives about how she had strangled her three children.

The prosecutor said it had been meticulously planned: She had concocted an errand that would keep her husband, Patrick, out of the house for about 25 minutes, just long enough so she could do it.

And she had then strangled each of her children with an exercise band, an act that would require holding each of them down for at least four minutes. Then she leapt from a second-story window, a fall that fractured her spine.

“The defendant stated that after he left the house that night, she killed the kids because she heard a voice, and had, quote unquote, a moment of psychosis,” Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Sprague said during a virtual arraignment via Zoom.

“She heard a man’s voice, telling her to kill the kids and kill herself because it was her last chance,” Ms. Sprague said.

The defense lawyer told a different story. Since the birth of her youngest child, eight months ago, he said, Ms. Clancy had repeatedly sought help for postpartum depression, eventually being prescribed 13 psychiatric medications in a four-month period. But suicidal thoughts kept surfacing, culminating in a break on Jan. 24.

“This is not a situation, your honor, that was planned by any means,” said Ms. Clancy’s lawyer, Kevin Reddington. “This is a situation that clearly was a product of mental illness.”

In the last two weeks, since Mr. Clancy arrived home to a horrific scene, this community has been trying to make sense of it. Ms. Clancy, 32, worked as a labor and delivery nurse. She was known as a generous friend and a doting mother. She had no criminal record, nor any reported history of abusing her children — Cora, 5; Dawson, 3; and the baby, Callan.

Ms. Clancy has received a good deal of sympathy, much of it from women who have experienced postpartum depression and psychosis. Online supporters have adopted the hashtag LAOL, which stands for Lindsay’s Army of Love. Mr. Clancy appealed to the public to “find it deep within yourselves to forgive Lindsay, as I have.”

But Tuesday’s arraignment made it clear how difficult it would be to untangle Ms. Clancy’s mental state from her actions.

The Plymouth County district attorney, Tim Cruz, is prosecuting Ms. Clancy on charges of first-degree murder, which carries the state’s maximum penalty, life imprisonment without the possibility of parole, as well as three counts of strangulation and three counts of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon.

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Lindsay Clancy
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Mr. Cruz, a rare Republican prosecutor in Massachusetts, is widely seen as uncompromising. He successfully pushed for two consecutive life sentences for Latarsha Sanders, who fatally stabbed her two sons in Brockton, Mass., despite her family’s insistence that she was psychotic and delusional.
The extent of Ms. Clancy’s mental illness is only gradually coming into view.
Prosecutors said on Tuesday that she had never reported psychosis to her husband and that a psychiatrist who evaluated her in December had concluded she was not suffering from postpartum depression. On Jan. 5, less than three weeks before the killings, she had been released from a five-day inpatient stay at McLean Hospital, a psychiatric hospital, without any warning that she posed a danger to herself or others.
The case is unfolding at a moment of rising awareness of mental illness and failures in the mental health system.
“If I were the D.A., I would be reticent to charge this as murder — it feels misaligned with our current understanding of mental health, and misaligned with the public reaction,” said Daniel Medwed, a professor of criminal law at Northeastern University.

“Society,” he added, “is way ahead of the law here.”
More than two dozen countries have laws decreasing penalties and providing psychiatric care for mothers who kill children under the age of 1. In 2018, Illinois was the first U.S. state to pass a law making postpartum illness a mitigating factor in sentencing.
Ms. Clancy posted frequently on social media, leaving behind a trail of family snapshots and updates on her mental health. In one post, last fall, she described an adverse reaction to Zoloft, a commonly prescribed antidepressant, which she wrote had left her with such “extreme insomnia” and lack of appetite that she stopped taking it.
Over the four months preceding the killings, Mr. Reddington said, she had been prescribed 13 psychiatric medications, an assortment of benzodiazepines, antidepressants, mood stabilizers and Ambien, which is used as a sleep aid.
“This continued even up until the week before when her husband went to the doctor and asked her for help and said, ‘Please, you’re turning her into a zombie,’” he said at a hearing last week. At Tuesday’s arraignment, he said she had been suffering from postpartum depression, “as well as a possibility of postpartum psychosis that is pretty much ignored.”
Prosecutors, meanwhile, cast the killings as carefully planned.
Using data from Ms. Clancy’s phone, Ms. Sprague described at length how Ms. Clancy had spent the afternoon of Jan. 24 — making a snowman with her children and taking photos that she sent to her mother and husband. Then, at 4:13 p.m., she searched for a restaurant to order takeout, using Apple maps to calculate how long it would take to drive to the restaurant and back.
At 4:53, she texted Mr. Clancy, who was working from a home office in the basement, and asked him to pick up the food — a Mediterranean power bowl for her, scallop and pork belly risotto for him. They had a 14-second call at 5:34 p.m., which Mr. Clancy described as unremarkable, though “she seemed like she was in the middle of something.”
When Mr. Clancy returned to the house, shortly after 6 p.m., he was confused to find it quiet, Ms. Sprague said. Setting down the containers and climbing up to the second floor, he forced open the door of the master bedroom to discover blood on the floor and an open window.

He ran down to the back yard, where his wife was lying, with cuts on her wrists and neck, and asked her where their children were. A recording of a 911 call captured the audio as Mr. Clancy climbed down the stairs to the basement. “At one point, he calls out, ‘Guys?’” Ms. Sprague said. “He can then be heard screaming in agony and shock as he found his children.”

All three had exercise bands tied around their necks. Cora, 5, and Dawson, 3, were pronounced dead at the hospital. Callan died three days later.

Maternal infanticide frequently takes place in the context of postpartum psychosis, a syndrome that occurs in one or two births per thousand and is characterized by delusions and hallucinations that can come on suddenly.

Courts and juries have responded to these cases in disparate ways. The best known is that of Andrea Yates, a Texas woman who was charged with murder in 2001, after she drowned her five children in a bathtub. She later said she had been following the commands of Satan, who had told her it would save them from hell.

In Ms. Yates’s first trial, in 2002, a jury found her guilty after just three and a half hours of deliberation. After that conviction was overturned, the jury in her second trial, in 2006, found her not guilty by reason of insanity.

It’s not unusual for doctors and family members to miss signs of postpartum psychosis in high-functioning women, according to Teresa Twomey, a lawyer and author of “Understanding Postpartum Psychosis: A Temporary Madness.”

Ms. Twomey, who said she had suffered a psychotic break after the birth of her daughter, remembered repeatedly calling her husband to warn him there were intruders in the house. He would drive home, reassure her there was no one in the house and leave again, figuring, as she put it, “maybe a squirrel got into the attic.”
Eventually, she said, she began to vividly visualize acts of violence against her baby, and was so fearful of her own potential actions that she collected the knives and scissors in the house and stowed them in the back of the closet.
In the case of a patient like Ms. Clancy, Ms. Twomey said, “we make the assumption that she would know, and could self-report.” But, she added, “if you’re high-functioning, and you’re paranoid, people are looking for reasons you wouldn’t have this illness.”
In a sermon last Sunday, the Rev. Robert Deehan, who had baptized the youngest of the Clancy children, asked parishioners to look more closely at their neighbors and family members, to consider, as he put it, “what burden the other person might be carrying.”
It had been a difficult week. The morning after the killings, Father Deehan sat with Mr. Clancy for an hour, praying. Later, he visited Ms. Clancy in her hospital room while she was still unconscious and delivered the sacrament of anointing of the sick, which is sometimes known as last rites. On Friday, at a funeral Mass for the children, he read the eulogy Mr. Clancy had written for them.
“Poor Pat kind of went off by himself because he’s still grieving, as you would imagine, and wanting to be apart and just alone, having some space,” he said. “So we gave him that space.”
In Duxbury, a seaside town settled in the 17th century, opinion was split, with some calling for draconian punishment and others, especially women, expressing sympathy.

“The first thing everybody did was look up her Facebook page, and on her Facebook page you can see literally how in love she was with her children,” said Julie Catineau, a psychiatric nurse who hosts a podcast, “Psychology Unplugged.”

“I believe in my heart that this woman was suffering,” she said. “That woman was out of her mind suffering.”

Ms. Clancy will remain in the hospital until she is cleared to be moved to a rehabilitation facility. A probable cause hearing in the case is set for May 2. Speaking to reporters last week, Mr. Reddington indicated that he planned to argue that she was not guilty by reason of insanity.

“The legal system is a heartless juggernaut that would not be affected by public opinion,” he said. “They will proceed as they deem appropriate. I hope they will temper justice with mercy, as they say. If they don’t, then it will be a trial.”


Ellen Barry covers mental health. She has served as The Times’s Boston bureau chief, London-based chief international correspondent and bureau chief in Moscow and New Delhi. She was part of a team that won the 2011 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. @EllenBarryNYT
 
Doctors really showing they know what the fuck theyre doing.

How retarded do you have to be to prescribe that many powerful meds and think medication is the solution? Just further proof most psych issues could resolved with a firm backhand.
Not only that but if she was breastfeeding, that kid is going t be fucked up.
 
I can't hate too much since I'd do the same if I reproduced lmao

What's the situation with the dad? Is he a creepy fundie with a breeding fetish who refused to adhere to his wife's doctors orders like Rusty Yates? Or did he just not realize how bad the situation was?

Strongly believe Rusty Yates should've been charged with something. If nothing else something related to medical neglect of a vulnerable adult. Highly doubt that tragedy would've happened if he actually followed the doctors orders that Andrea stay on her meds and not have any more fucking kids.
I agree with you about Rusty Yates. This dude was luckily not a fundie and seemed supportive of her getting mental help. She was even on 13 meds which is probably way too much and was inpatient 3 weeks before she killed the kids. Seems she did not get proper help, just meds thrown at her.
I think Leonardo DiCaprio reaction to similar event was way more appropriate. This is some level of denial and fake saintliness that must be powered by a nuclear grade of narcissism. Maybe that's why his chick got so insane. I am not justifying what she did, but just her mental disturbance. Imagine putting up with such a goody-goody two shoe every day.
It says he broke down and just started screaming when he saw his kids all dead. Then after that, his Revenend was there with him at the hospital, counseling him and praying with him. Maybe he thinks it's the proper Christian thing to forgive her?
 
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Ever notice how when these moms kill their kids, they always have either all sons or mostly sons (in this case, 2 boys 1 girl.) Fucking cunts.

Show me a case where a crazy mom kills her 3 daughters. Must be rare as fuck.
Wish it were so (merely to get SOME reasoning) but Google shows a goodly lot. 1 2 3 4 5

Surprised Texas was figuring so highly, I thought they were the same one but obviously not, and all shootings.

Anyway, studies have been done: - men and women are sadly equal in this.

 
So much of the available information doesn't line the fuck up.

Husband already had to deal with repeated panic delusions of home invaders after the birth of one of the kids. By this account, he had to go home several times to appease her. Concludes these security rounds rationalizing that they must "have a squirrel somewhere"? Okay bro.

She later flys into additional episodes where she's compelled to allocate a number of common sharp objects around the house, citing fear that she'll harm the children. Puts them all in a closet. No mention of whether this closet arsenal was then locked away from her, or if she just built herself a quickstop go-to collection of kill children shut. No mention of whether husband knew this, or somehow never managed to notice the absence of random sharp things from their normal places. No red flags here? Okay bro.

She goes inpatient psyche hold for almost a week right before the murders, released as " not a danger" husband deems this declaration satisfying. Would you? I wouldnt. Especially not within the first month or so of release. Again, okay bro.

She's on enough prescriptions to choke a donkey, no matter what they were. He sees no issue leaving her to her own devices with unfettered access to his children in his absence? Even for jmhalf an hour? Okay bro.

It says she never expressed to him that she was having fucked up shit going on in her mind? That's not quite what one could conclude from all these previous plot points, but even if true, he didn't err on the side of caution, given all these con/subtextual clues? Fucking okay bro.

Then betas the fuck out & begs the court of public opinion to forgive her because she was otherwise pretty great? Oh. Kay. Bro.

Fuck outta here on all that. Those kids are dead & she's scootypuffed for life now. Doesnt really matter if they give her prison or the nut hatch, really. So here's what I want to know even more:

She was a labor/delivery nurse?? An investigation into infant mortality rates at every square inch of every job/facility that she has ever held in that field,at should've been launched likem immediately.

Just seems to me you'll find better answers there..
 
Husband already had to deal with repeated panic delusions of home invaders after the birth of one of the kids. By this account, he had to go home several times to appease her. Concludes these security rounds rationalizing that they must "have a squirrel somewhere"? Okay bro.

She later flys into additional episodes where she's compelled to allocate a number of common sharp objects around the house, citing fear that she'll harm the children. Puts them all in a closet.
That wasn't the murderer who had home invader delusions and hid knives, it was just an author who wrote about her experience with PPD. The author is Teresa Twomey and the murderer is Lindsay Clancy.
 
I agree with you about Rusty Yates. This dude was luckily not a fundie and seemed supportive of her getting mental help. She was even on 13 meds which is probably way too much and was inpatient 3 weeks before she killed the kids. Seems she did not get proper help, just meds thrown at her.
That's how mental healthcare tends to work, sadly. I've seen people on multiple antipsychotics plus a benzo, SSRI, or SNRI. These people were nuts, but that's still overkill. Going off medication can seem like an ordeal less because of the withdrawal and more because your dealer wants to replace that pill.
 
That wasn't the murderer who had home invader delusions and hid knives, it was just an author who wrote about her experience with PPD. The author is Teresa Twomey and the murderer is Lindsay Clancy.
My mistake, don't kiwi farms @ 4am while concurrently falling asleep & raging impotently at how yet another unhinged psycho gash has murdered her children (whom she should have *voluntarily* separated herself from for a while after her release if she felt fucked up enough for inpatient in the the first place.) And somehow, a community of support has rallied behind her, demanding acceptance & sympathy.

I've seen too much shit in actual life, probably. And there are women who recognize that they're all kinds of fucked up after having a baby, & they're woman enough to admit that to themselves & they figure out ways to put in place every safeguard they can to ensure that they won't do any fucked up shit to their children. Including separation from them until their shit balances back out.

And then there are the cunts who aren't. And don't. Because they are fucking insane & whatever subset of rationales that go along with that. Which = severely abused/dead children.

I'll stop myself there, too many feels on this subject. What I will say is that whether it makes me an insensitive mong or not, fuck this slit & I'm glad she paralyzed herself instead of pulling off her an hero, & I hope she has decades of life ahead of her, no matter where they wind up tossing her, & whether or not she ever learns or remembers how to feel guilt.

Either way, thank you for correcting me. <3 Going to threadban myself now.
 
Doctors really showing they know what the fuck theyre doing.

How retarded do you have to be to prescribe that many powerful meds and think medication is the solution? Just further proof most psych issues could resolved with a firm backhand.
Doctors need to pay off that Lamborghini lease. How else are they going to make money? Recommend people NOT take anti-psychotic medicine?
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I agree with you about Rusty Yates. This dude was luckily not a fundie and seemed supportive of her getting mental help. She was even on 13 meds which is probably way too much and was inpatient 3 weeks before she killed the kids. Seems she did not get proper help, just meds thrown at her.
Damn, wonder if some of the meds weren't compatible especially if there were multiple doctors prescribing shit? There might be a lawsuit and possible criminal charges against the doctors in that case.
 
Damn, wonder if some of the meds weren't compatible especially if there were multiple doctors prescribing shit? There might be a lawsuit and possible criminal charges against the doctors in that case.
Fair assessment to say when a "stack" generates a body count, one would consider it incompatible even if there is not a recognized adverse reaction. Courtesy of the Daily Mail (Archive)
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I know off-hand Lamictil is a bit of a wildcard with interactions for Zoloft, checking documentation already throws a whole bunch of red flags:(archive)
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It also brought me to a handy dandy interaction checker and, the results are troubling...
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It's looking like the shrink and pharmacist at minimum should have their licensing revoked. Edit: the giant screenshots detailing the interactions cannot thumbnail, they are attached.
 

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Fair assessment to say when a "stack" generates a body count, one would consider it incompatible even if there is not a recognized adverse reaction. Courtesy of the Daily Mail (Archive)
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I know off-hand Lamictil is a bit of a wildcard with interactions for Zoloft, checking documentation already throws a whole bunch of red flags:(archive)
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It also brought me to a handy dandy interaction checker and, the results are troubling...
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It's looking like the shrink and pharmacist at minimum should have their licensing revoked. Edit: the giant screenshots detailing the interactions cannot thumbnail, they are attached.
Plus even with those individual medications, some people can have really bad reactions to them (including severe paradoxical effects). I'm not a fan of SSRIs and it looks like she was on several.

Definitely sounds like there needs to be an investigation of all her medical providers at bare minimum.
Ever notice how when these moms kill their kids, they always have either all sons or mostly sons (in this case, 2 boys 1 girl.) Fucking cunts.

Show me a case where a crazy mom kills her 3 daughters. Must be rare as fuck.
Wait til you here about what often happens to baby girls in India and China.

Sex-selective infanticide is usually against female babies.

Of course, the usual reasons for committing infanticide have little to do with a mom with post-partum psychosis killing her kids as a result of her delusions.
 
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Fair assessment to say when a "stack" generates a body count, one would consider it incompatible even if there is not a recognized adverse reaction. Courtesy of the Daily Mail (Archive)
View attachment 4507710View attachment 4507721
I know off-hand Lamictil is a bit of a wildcard with interactions for Zoloft, checking documentation already throws a whole bunch of red flags:(archive)
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It also brought me to a handy dandy interaction checker and, the results are troubling...
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It's looking like the shrink and pharmacist at minimum should have their licensing revoked. Edit: the giant screenshots detailing the interactions cannot thumbnail, they are attached.

Optimistic I know, but there's the off-chance these weren't all prescribed at the same time.
I can see a couple of successive cocktails in there. E.g.
- Fluoxetine + Mirtazapine
- Sertraline + Quetiapine
- Amitriptyline + Buspirone

The benzos PRN for anxiety (i.e. Loraz > Diaz > Clonaz) -
Zolpidem/Hydroxy/Trazodone at bedtime -
Lamotrigine to augment one of above.
 
Optimistic I know, but there's the off-chance these weren't all prescribed at the same time.
I can see a couple of successive cocktails in there. E.g.
- Fluoxetine + Mirtazapine
- Sertraline + Quetiapine
- Amitriptyline + Buspirone

The benzos PRN for anxiety (i.e. Loraz > Diaz > Clonaz) -
Zolpidem/Hydroxy/Trazodone at bedtime -
Lamotrigine to augment one of above.
While there is some truth to this the timeline would be tight, remember this is a four month period, and already dealing with a major/recent med adjustment for being post-natal. In a "best case" scenario you're generally looking at 2-3 weeks to get any medication out and a similar 2-3 week window before a dosage should get in the ballpark of normal effects. I'm sure an actual pharmfag can pull out an exception to prove me wrong but in general these timelines only get longer the more medication is involved.

I also didn't mention but I think it should be emphasized this is the defense's disclosure. Considering she's able to have all that and remain awake tells me she's either genuinely, actually psychotically insane, or there's some stimulants we don't know about. If I wanted to kill someone's apathy, make them misanthropic as hell, and actually have the energy to do something I can't think of a "better" cocktail to effect that with the one simple addition. Really past like 6/7 you're really just doing a "yes! and..." routine.
 
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