"angry" gamers/critics

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clowney said:
Also it's hilarious that SJ pandering Doug would, even for a second, acknowledge SJW hater extraordinaire alphaomegasin. Guess their views don't matter as long as they back your "totally going to go some place" cause. Or, even more likely, he didn't really care about the people he just slapped on the end.
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Not that surprising, considering that Alpha's pals with James Rolfe and Mike Matei:


Frankly, I'm in the camp of thinking Doug isn't really a SJW, considering some of the things he's said about political correctness recently.

@Jewelsmakerguy , you keep saying that you feel this will end badly. I think its appropriate to compare this to the last time Doug & co. were defending free speech (c.f. them voicing their objects to SOPA in Washington). Did that end badly for them? Not really, AFAIK. That was just before the very public firing/ragequit of Spoony, but the two events aren't really connected.
 
China and Crystal said:
But back on topic, lmao @ NC's rousing speech in that Claymore video. "We're not going away, content creators like us have only gotten bigger, and all [Hollywood's] attempts to keep us down have only made us stronger. No matter what [Hollywood does], we'll find a way to comment, to praise, to criticize, to satirize, and to educate . . ." :story:

And yes, as much as I dislike most of these angry critics, they're certainly entitled to whatever they views on whatever they produce videos about, but man they need to take it easy on the salt.
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The part that gets to me most is when Doug says his activism for fair use "can create a stable environment for new creators to produce great work". Now, I do believe there's a place for video reviews and that what he does would fall under fair use, but I couldn't help but smell an irony in his implied claim that "creators" need a right to use copyrighted material so they could "produce great work". Whatever happened to producing original content? Reviews with copyrighted clips aren't the only content one can create and upload on Youtube.

(I would go so far as to say this is part of a worrisome trend for this generation's artists and writers to grow dependent on copyrighted material for their own creative output, but that would bring us into the topic of fan art and fan fiction which isn't germane to a thread about angry video critics).
 
Hellsperger said:
Not that surprising, considering that Alpha's pals with James Rolfe and Mike Matei:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=uTJyfNPWRuY
Frankly, I'm in the camp of thinking Doug isn't really a SJW, considering some of the things he's said about political correctness recently.

@Jewelsmakerguy , you keep saying that you feel this will end badly. I think its appropriate to compare this to the last time Doug & co. were defending free speech (c.f. them voicing their objects to SOPA in Washington). Did that end badly for them? Not really, AFAIK. That was just before the very public firing/ragequit of Spoony, but the two events aren't really connected.
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That was somewhat different in that SOPA actually got shitcanned (and so did Spoony, but that's not the point). This just feels pointless and only serves as a way for Doug to whine "I'M STILL RELEVANT!" Which is why I'm saying it'll end badly because Doug's been treading on the line between relevancy and not important for quite some time now. And if this blows up in his face, he could be forgotten about very quickly/easily.

China and Crystal said:
Oh yeah, CC is being pretty abrasive about this stuff, but then again since he focuses on cartoon and vidya spergs, I guess that's to be expected. (Not that excuses it, though.)



On the unfair claims front, he did mention Cinema Snob's stuff being taken down when there were apparently no clips (which I have to take his word for it, I don't follow CS).

@ Daddy Derek, wait whut? In the post CC called him an oversensitive asswipe. That must be new.
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1. True, he should probably just stick to that.
2. Snob actually did get a few videos taken down (some Christian film named "Second Glance". But that was rectified after a brief period). As the video was made in Feburary, this would have been before that incident.
3. Honestly, that's the vibe I got when he started bitching about Alex and IHE's attitude towards Derek. Felt like he just said that as an afterthought, considering he also pointed out that Derek was in the right (which while technically true, is kind of a lie because no one gives a shit about Cool Cat besides Savage and the few million people on the internet who saw/heard of it. And as I said, Derek's just as bad at fair use as well, seeing as he clearly used websites without censoring them after talking about removing water bottle labels and other brand names).
 
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CWCissey said:
Doug is many things, an SJW isn't one of them.
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This is true, but he does occasionally throw that side of his fanbase a bone. He made a very lame MRA joke in his Jupiter Rising review which I assume was an attempt to appease his SJW audience. Remember, SJWs like Jupiter Rising for no other reason than it's a sci-fi film with a female lead (and possibly because one of the directors is trans), so it's possible he was afraid of a backlash.
 
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TheImportantFart said:
This is true, but he does occasionally throw that side of his fanbase a bone. He made a very lame MRA joke in his Jupiter Rising review which I assume was an attempt to appease his SJW audience. Remember, SJWs like Jupiter Rising for no other reason than it's a sci-fi film with a female lead (and possible because one of the directors is tranny), so it's possible he was afraid of a backlash.
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Both Wachowskis are trannies.
 
TheImportantFart said:
This is true, but he does occasionally throw that side of his fanbase a bone. He made a very lame MRA joke in his Jupiter Rising review which I assume was an attempt to appease his SJW audience. Remember, SJWs like Jupiter Rising for no other reason than it's a sci-fi film with a female lead (and possibly because one of the directors is tranny), so it's possible he was afraid of a backlash.
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I mean you don't have to be a hardcore SJW to find mocking MRA's amusing. That's just comedy. As for Jupiter Ascending, there are people that like far shittier media than Jupiter Ascending. People liking a visually interesting-enough sci-fi movie isn't really all that surprising no matter who stars or directed it.

So, why do we care about where NC stands on politics? Does it make his videos better?
 
DrChristianTroy said:
I mean you don't have to be a hardcore SJW to find mocking MRA's amusing. That's just comedy. As for Jupiter Ascending, there are people that like far shittier media than Jupiter Ascending. People liking a visually interesting-enough sci-fi movie isn't really all that surprising no matter who stars or directed it.

So, why do we care about where NC stands on politics? Does it make his videos better?
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I know you don't, but it can be a red flag, and I found the joke obvious, lazy and pandering. I'd say the same thing if he'd said "Oh look, a fat ugly lesbian, must be a feminist!!! XDXDXDXDXD". Then again, this is Doug we're talking about so I guess I shouldn't expect much. The reason I linked Jupiter Ascending to SJWs is I've seen a lot of people cite the fact the film has a female lead as the sole thing they liked about the film, even though she's actually a pretty poor character and there are far better films with female leads to be had. It's sort of like people who support Hillary Clinton solely because she was born with a vagina.

As for where NC stands on politics, I personally don't really care, it's just that CA has become such an SJW cesspool that I think people are curious as to whether Doug's in on it too. I guess if he was really outspoken one way or the other and allowed it to bleed into his reviews it would make them slightly more annoying and preachy than they already are. Todd in the Shadows is a scumbag but he keeps his retarded politics out of his videos (for the most part) so on that basis I still enjoy them, even though I'm aware the person behind them is a douche.

(I just realised I was calling Jupiter Ascending Jupiter Rising this whole time. Whoops.)
 
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DrChristianTroy said:
So, why do we care about where NC stands on politics? Does it make his videos better?
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Doug has said several times in the past that doesn't particularly care for either right-wingers or left-wingers. Remember, he took a lot of shots at Obama.

TheImportantFart said:
Todd in the Shadows is a scumbag but he keeps his retarded politics out of his videos (for the most part) so on that basis I still enjoy them, even though I'm aware the person behind them is a douche.
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I honestly never found Todd's videos entertaining, so him becoming an SJW is no skin off my back. Hell, even Linkara's SJ views are more tolerable IMHO.
 
Hellsperger said:
I honestly never found Todd's videos entertaining, so him becoming an SJW is no skin off my back. Hell, even Linkara's SJ views are more tolerable IMHO.
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Anyone's views would be more tolerable then Todd's. He's the guy who thinks Nightmare Before Christmas is about cultural appropriation.
 
Honestly, I never saw Doug as a SJW. Stupid, maybe, money-grubbing, oh most certainly. But definitely not an SJW.

He simply doesn't come off as that kind of guy.
Hellsperger said:
I honestly never found Todd's videos entertaining, so him becoming an SJW is no skin off my back. Hell, even Linkara's SJ views are more tolerable IMHO.
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Only videos I ever liked from Todd were his very early output and his One-hit wonder shit. Otherwise he's a bad person, both on and off the camera.
 
If Doug was an SJW, he wouldn't have made that one autism joke that pissed off a shitload of his fans (who probably are on the spectrum). The reaction was so bad that apparently he had to reupload that video without the joke.

Also, whenever his fans massively dogpile on him he reacts really passive-aggressively -- hence that nitpicker character or the apology for his shitty let's play. Like, the way Doug acted both of those times was so fucking insincere.
 
Doug Walker is a cynical businessman who will adopt whatever position secures ad revenue. Suggesting otherwise is retarded.

Fair use is as close as he gets to political on camera and only because that threatens his business.
 
Hellsperger said:
Todd becoming an SJW is no skin off my back. Hell, even Linkara's SJ views are more tolerable IMHO.
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Respectfully disagreed, if only because Linkara's more of a massive hypocrite about it.

Example: many complaints r.e. fetishization in comics are valid, but not coming from someone who gets off to hermaphrodite rape in fanworks. That'd be akin to, say, Todd secretly being a GGer on a smurf account, but we don't have evidence of that sorta thing yet, so at the very least I give him some props for not trying to have his cake and eat it too.
 
In other news:
Noah "Spoony" Antwiler's Patreon is tumbling further down into oblivion. After it went up for a few days (he probably boosted it back over 2000$ himself) he is now at $1,896 with 391 patrons and still tweeting with approx. 3.2 W/ph (Wu per hour).
 
Von Clausewitz said:
In other news:
Noah "Spoony" Antwiler's Patreon is tumbling further down into oblivion. After it went up for a few days (he probably boosted it back over 2000$ himself) he is now at $1,896 with 391 patrons and still tweeting with approx. 3.2 W/ph (Wu per hour).
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The hilarious thing is it's actually not hard to stem that blood loss by just half-assing content. While his traditional reviews were fun, I reckon he'd have enough fans that'd like a movie review vlog or Counter Monkey as well that just releasing them every couple of weeks would do fine, with a couple of actual reviews every now and then.
 
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