Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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On the subject of Ghost types, Chandelure is a personal favorite. I know there are plenty of people who hate its design, but how could you hate a Gothic haunted chandelier with a jack-o-lantern face?

Trevenant also ranks high on the list of favorite Ghost types. Love the idea of a haunted tree that attacks people who enter its' woods. Great design, too.
 
Sundae said:
On the subject of Ghost types, Chandelure is a personal favorite. I know there are plenty of people who hate its design, but how could you hate a Gothic haunted chandelier with a jack-o-lantern face?

Trevenant also ranks high on the list of favorite Ghost types. Love the idea of a haunted tree that attacks people who enter its' woods. Great design, too.
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lolwtf, chandelure is one of the best designs for a pokemon, fuck everyone else. frankly the entire litwick line is fantastic. and the progression from a candle to a lantern to a chandelier is simple, yet genius. you got good taste. trevenant is a neat pokemon, though it's not one of my favorites. i'm more of a gourgeist fan, myself. kinda reminds me of a heartless from kingdom hearts, tbh. also pumpkaboo is fucking adorable.
 
Sundae said:
On the subject of Ghost types, Chandelure is a personal favorite. I know there are plenty of people who hate its design, but how could you hate a Gothic haunted chandelier with a jack-o-lantern face?

Trevenant also ranks high on the list of favorite Ghost types. Love the idea of a haunted tree that attacks people who enter its' woods. Great design, too.
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I honestly don't even understand the hate for Gen 5 Pokémon in general tbh; some of my favourites come from there such as the Vanillite line everyone likes to complain about and the Gothita line. Chandelure is a great Pokémon and the shiny is pretty neat too with the orange flames. I used one in Sword since there was no Mismagius and I also used one in my original White playthrough. That 145 Special Attack is no joke though.

I always found Phantump to be super cute. I guess while it's Ghost-type time, I loved Spiritomb as a kid but found the requirement to get one in the original Diamond/Pearl games to be retarded. Of course kid me used an Action Replay to get one. :)

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I was simply trying to get some Egg moves and ended up hatching a Shiny as a surprise. My first Shiny of 2023! :biggrin:
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Gen 5 has some really good designs and some that are weird, bland or straight up ugly.
But c'mon you have Hydreigon, Excadrill, Scolipede, Chandelure, Cofagrigus, Serperior, Ferrothorn and many more hits.
It's also the first gen that finally payed the bug type some well-deserved respect, after the necessary move update in form of X-Scissor and U-Turn from gen 4 of course.

Ghost types in general are one of the types with more fleshed out designs but in later gens they are not as flavorful as the ghosts from gen 3 to 6, while the fairies are getting more sinister every gen after their debute (from boring things like Aromatisse to Mimikyu, Grimmsnarl and Hatterene)
 
It is some bullshit that Paradox Pokemon are not allowed on VGC. Guess I can play around with them for a full year though.
 
Lurker said:
lolwtf, chandelure is one of the best designs for a pokemon, fuck everyone else. frankly the entire litwick line is fantastic. and the progression from a candle to a lantern to a chandelier is simple, yet genius. you got good taste. trevenant is a neat pokemon, though it's not one of my favorites. i'm more of a gourgeist fan, myself. kinda reminds me of a heartless from kingdom hearts, tbh. also pumpkaboo is fucking adorable.
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Based Pumpkaboo fan
 
Executive Petrel said:
Gen 5 has some really good designs and some that are weird, bland or straight up ugly.
But c'mon you have Hydreigon, Excadrill, Scolipede, Chandelure, Cofagrigus, Serperior, Ferrothorn and many more hits.
It's also the first gen that finally payed the bug type some well-deserved respect, after the necessary move update in form of X-Scissor and U-Turn from gen 4 of course.

Ghost types in general are one of the types with more fleshed out designs but in later gens they are not as flavorful as the ghosts from gen 3 to 6, while the fairies are getting more sinister every gen after their debute (from boring things like Aromatisse to Mimikyu, Grimmsnarl and Hatterene)
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Speaking of Bug-types, Gen 5 gave us Volcarona too. Them and Scolipede actually felt like usable bugs. I do like some of the weirder ones like Sigilyph and Cryogonal.

Meh Aromatisse. Could've been a cool Dark/Fairy plague doctor. I do like the direction they were going with Fairies becoming more evil/demonic. That's why Grimmsnarl and Hatterene ended up being some of my faves from Gen 8; Grimmsnarl defies the "cutesy" aesthetic Fairy typically has with his demonic appearance and Hatterene will beat the shit outta you, if not outright kill you. I do like some of the cute ones like Sylveon and Florges though, but I'd prefer to see more darker Fairy-types in the future. :)
 
Useless Mont-d'Or said:
Speaking of Bug-types, Gen 5 gave us Volcarona too. Them and Scolipede actually felt like usable bugs. I do like some of the weirder ones like Sigilyph and Cryogonal.

Meh Aromatisse. Could've been a cool Dark/Fairy plague doctor. I do like the direction they were going with Fairies becoming more evil/demonic. That's why Grimmsnarl and Hatterene ended up being some of my faves from Gen 8; Grimmsnarl defies the "cutesy" aesthetic Fairy typically has with his demonic appearance and Hatterene will beat the shit outta you, if not outright kill you. I do like some of the cute ones like Sylveon and Florges though, but I'd prefer to see more darker Fairy-types in the future. :)
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"Demonic" isn't the word I'd use to describe the more recent fairies. They're more "Fae-like" as in how Fae are in D&D.
 
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Useless Mont-d'Or said:
Speaking of Bug-types, Gen 5 gave us Volcarona too. Them and Scolipede actually felt like usable bugs. I do like some of the weirder ones like Sigilyph and Cryogonal.

Meh Aromatisse. Could've been a cool Dark/Fairy plague doctor. I do like the direction they were going with Fairies becoming more evil/demonic. That's why Grimmsnarl and Hatterene ended up being some of my faves from Gen 8; Grimmsnarl defies the "cutesy" aesthetic Fairy typically has with his demonic appearance and Hatterene will beat the shit outta you, if not outright kill you. I do like some of the cute ones like Sylveon and Florges though, but I'd prefer to see more darker Fairy-types in the future. :)
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I still think Gen VII had the best bug types in the series. Lurantis and Vikavolt have awesome designs.
Is vikavolt even in any of the switch games?
 
Focken Kiwi said:
Lurantis isn't bug type.
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pfft, next you'll tell me gyarados isn't a dragon type.

lurantis is kind of a clever concept for a pokemon in that it's a plant that looks like an insect rather than an insect that looks like a plant.

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as an aside, i was faffing about in area zero trying to catch extra paradox pokemon, and i was fortunate enough to catch a shiny scream tail. i was lucky that it spawned in such a way where it was facing me, because it's pretty hard to miss the big red eyes, since its color variation from behind isn't quite obvious, especially if the shiny scream tail isn't next to any other scream tail. but yeah, that was cool, i guess.
 
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Inafune Fanfiction said:
Is vikavolt even in any of the switch games?
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Yes, they are in Sword/Shield but not Scarlet/Violet (not unless possible future DLC adds them back).

ETA: Since I didn't play Legends or BDSP, I checked Bulbapedia and they are not in those games either.
 
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Executive Petrel said:
Ghost types in general are one of the types with more fleshed out designs but in later gens they are not as flavorful as the ghosts from gen 3 to 6, while the fairies are getting more sinister every gen after their debute (from boring things like Aromatisse to Mimikyu, Grimmsnarl and Hatterene)
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YOU TAKE THAT BACK. AROMATISSE IS FAR FROM BORING. LOOK AT ITS SHINY FORM
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On my hack, I made a pretty much fina list.

  1. Sprigatito (Grass)
  2. Floragato (Grass)
  3. Meowscarada (Grass/Dark)
  4. Fuecoco (Fire)
  5. Crocalor (Fire)
  6. Skeledirge (Fire/Ghost)
  7. Quaxly (Water)
  8. Quaxwell (Water)
  9. Quaquaval (Water/Fighting)
  10. Lechonk (Normal)
  11. Oikologne (Normal)
  12. Dunsparce (Normal)
  13. Dudunsparce (Normal)
  14. Tarountula (Bug)
  15. Spidops (Bug)
  16. Nymble (Bug)
  17. Lokix (Bug/Dark)
  18. Rellor (Bug)
  19. Rabsca (Bug/Psychic)
  20. Greavard (Ghost)
  21. Houndstone (Ghost)
  22. Flittle (Psychic)
  23. Espathra (Psychic)
  24. Tsuinzu (Normal/Dark)
  25. Beta Girafarig (Normal/Dark)
  26. Johtonian Girafarig (Psychic/Normal)
  27. Farigiraf (Psychic/Normal)
  28. Kantonian Diglett (Ground)
  29. Kantonian Dugtrio (Ground)
  30. Alolan Diglett (Ground/Steel)
  31. Alolan Dugtrio (Ground/Steel)
  32. Wiglett (Water)
  33. Wugtrio (Water)
  34. Dondozo (Water)
  35. Veluza (Water/Psychic)
  36. Finizen (Water)
  37. Zero Palafin (Water)
  38. Hero Palafin (Water)
  39. Smoliv (Grass/Normal)
  40. Dolliv (Grass/Normal)
  41. Arboliva (Grass/Normal)
  42. Capsakid (Grass)
  43. Scovillain (Grass/Fire)
  44. Tadbulb (Electric)
  45. Bellibolt (Electric)
  46. Varoom (Poison/Steel)
  47. Plain Revavroom (Poison/Steel)
  48. Segin Revavroom (Dark)
  49. Schedar Revavroom (Fire)
  50. Navi Revavroom (Poison)
  51. Ruchbah Revavroom (Fairy)
  52. Caph Revavroom (Fighting)
  53. Orthworm (Steel)
  54. Tandemaus (Normal)
  55. Maushold (Normal)
  56. Cetoddle (Ice)
  57. Cetitan (Ice)
  58. Frigibax (Ice/Dragon)
  59. Arctibax (Ice/Dragon)
  60. Baxcalibur (Ice/Dragon)
  61. Curly Tatsugiri (Water/Dragon)
  62. Droopy Tatsugiri (Water/Dragon)
  63. Stretchy Tatsugiri (Water/Dragon)
  64. Cyclizar (Normal/Dragon)
  65. Pawmi (Electric)
  66. Pawmo (Electric/Fighting)
  67. Pawmot (Electric/Fighting)
  68. Wattrel (Electric/Flying)
  69. Kilowattrel (Electric/Flying)
  70. Bombirdier (Flying/Dark)
  71. Squawkabilly (Normal/Flying)
  72. Flamigo (Fighting/Flying)
  73. Klawf (Rock)
  74. Nacli (Rock)
  75. Naclstack (Rock)
  76. Garganacl (Rock)
  77. Glimmet (Poison/Rock)
  78. Glimmora (Poison/Rock)
  79. Shroodle (Poison/Normal)
  80. Grafaiai (Poison/Normal)
  81. Fidough (Fairy)
  82. Dachsbun (Fairy)
  83. Maschiff (Dark)
  84. Mabosstiff (Dark)
  85. Bramblin (Grass/Ghost)
  86. Brambleghast (Grass/Ghost)
  87. Chest Gimmighoul (Ghost)
  88. Roaming Gimmighoul (Ghost)
  89. Ghouldengo (Ghost/Steel)
  90. Phanpy (Ground)
  91. Donphan (Ground)
  92. Past Donphan (Fighting/Ground)
  93. Foongus (Grass/Poison)
  94. Amoongus (Grass/Poison)
  95. Past Amoongus (Grass/Dark)
  96. Magnemite (Electric/Steel)
  97. Magneton (Electric/Steel)
  98. Past Magneton (Electric/Ground)
  99. Magnezone (Electric/Steel)
  100. Igglybuff (Normal/Fairy)
  101. Jigglypuff (Normal/Fairy)
  102. Past Jigglypuff (Psychic/Fairy)
  103. Wigglytuff (Normal/Fairy)
  104. Gastly (Poison/Ghost)
  105. Haunter (Poison/Ghost)
  106. Gengar (Poison/Ghost)
  107. Past Gengar (Ghost/Dark)
  108. Abra (Psychic)
  109. Kadabra (Psychic)
  110. Alakazam (Psychic)
  111. Past Alakazam (Psychic/Ice)
  112. Misdreavus (Ghost)
  113. Past Misdreavus (Ghost/Fairy)
  114. Mismagious (Ghost)
  115. Larvesta (Bug)
  116. Volcarona (Bug/Fire)
  117. Past Volcarona (Bug/Fighting)
  118. Bagon (Dragon)
  119. Shelgon (Dragon)
  120. Salamence (Flying/Dragon)
  121. Past Salamence (Dragon/Dark)
  122. Future Donphan (Ground/Steel)
  123. Future Volcarona (Poison/Fire)
  124. Makuhita (Fighting)
  125. Hariyama (Fighting)
  126. Future Hariyama (Electric/Fighting)
  127. Deino (Dragon/Dark)
  128. Zweilous (Dragon/Dark)
  129. Hydreigon (Dragon/Dark)
  130. Future Hydreigon (Flying/Dark)
  131. Larvitar (Ground/Rock)
  132. Pupitar (Ground/Rock)
  133. Tyranitar (Rock/Dark)
  134. Future Tyranitar (Electric/Rock)
  135. Delibird (Ice/Flying)
  136. Future Delibird (Water/Ice)
  137. Ralts (Psychic/Fairy)
  138. Kirlia (Psychic/Fairy)
  139. Gardevoir (Psychic/Fairy)
  140. Gallade (Fighting/Psychic)
  141. Future Gallade (Fighting/Fairy)
  142. Yanma (Bug/Flying)
  143. Yanmega (Bug/Flying)
  144. Future Yanmega (Bug/Steel)
  145. Golett (Ground/Ghost)
  146. Golurk (Ground/Ghost)
  147. Future Golurk (Ground/Steel)
  148. Dreepy (Ghost/Dragon)
  149. Drakloak (Ghost/Dragon)
  150. Dragapult (Ghost/Dragon)
  151. Past Dragapult (Ice/Dragon)
  152. Bellsprout (Grass/Poison)
  153. Weepingbel (Grass/Poison)
  154. Victreebel (Grass/Poison)
  155. Tsubomitto (Grass/Poison)
  156. Past Victreebell (Poison/Rock)
  157. Venipede (Bug/Poison)
  158. Whirlpede (Bug/Poison)
  159. Scolipede (Bug/Poison)
  160. Future Scolipede (Poison/Steel)
  161. Zubat (Poison/Flying)
  162. Golbat (Poison/Flying)
  163. Crobat (Poison/Flying)
  164. Future Crobat (Flying/Steel)
  165. Ting-Lu (Ground/Dark)
  166. Chien-Pao (Ice/Dark)
  167. Wo-Chien (Grass/Dark)
  168. Chi-Yu (Fire/Dark)
  169. Koraidon (Fighting/Dragon)
  170. Miraidon (Electric/Dragon)
  171. Tinktank (Steel/Fairy)
  172. Tinkatuff (Steel/Fairy)
  173. Tinkaton (Steel/Fairy)
  174. Charcadet (Fire)
  175. Armarouge (Fire/Psychic)
  176. Ceruledge (Fire/Ghost)
  177. Tentacool (Poison/Water)
  178. Tentacruel (Poison/Water)
  179. Toedscool (Grass/Ground)
  180. Toedscruel (Grass/Ground)
  181. Pawniard (Dark/Steel)
  182. Bisharp (Dark/Steel)
  183. Kingambit (Dark/Steel)
  184. Beta Wooper (Water)
  185. Johtonian Wooper (Water/Ground)
  186. Johtonian Quagsire (Water/Ground)
  187. Paldean Wooper (Poison/Ground)
  188. Clodsire (Poison/Ground)
  189. Mankey (Fighting)
  190. Primeape (Fighting)
  191. Annihilape (Fighting/Ghost)
  192. Kantonian Tauros (Normal)
  193. Combat Tauros (Fighting)
  194. Blaze Tauros (Fire/Fighting)
  195. Aqua Tauros (Water/Fighting)
  196. Kantonian Magikarp (Water)
  197. Kantonian Gyarados (Water/Flying)
  198. 'Paldean' Magikarp (Ground)
  199. 'Paldean' Gyarados (Ground/Dragon)
  200. Past Magikarp (Water/Dragon)
  201. Future Magikarp (Water/Steel)
  202. Kotora (Electric)
  203. Raitora (Electric)
  204. Gaotora (Electric)
  205. Ditto (Normal)
  206. Animon (Normal)
  207. Flambear (Fire)
  208. Volbear (Fire)
  209. Dynabear (Fire)
  210. Past Dynabear (Fire/Rock)
  211. Wolfman (Ice)
  212. Warwolf (Ice)
  213. Squirtle (Water)
  214. Wartortle (Water)
  215. Blastoise (Water)
  216. Future Blastoise (Water/Steel)
  217. PM2F_305.png
    (Grass/Ice)
  218. PM2F_306.png
    (Grass/Ice)
  219. PM2F_307.png
    (Grass/Ice)
  220. PM2F_308.png
    (Grass/Water)
  221. PM2F_313.png
    (Grass/Flying)
  222. PM2F_314.png
    (Bug/Rock)
  223. PM2F_378.png
    the baby (Fairy)
  224. PM2F_378.png
    the mother (Fairy/Flying)
  225. PM2F_403.png
    (Bug/Flying)
  226. PM2F_405.png
    (Bug/Flying)
  227. Gyarth (Rock)
  228. Gyaoon (Rock)
  229. Legendary Beasts (unknown)
  230. Legendary Swords (unknown)
  231. Behelit Origin of Terastalisation (unknown)

The actual order i still in development.
Future Blastoise is going to be based off
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the original evolution of Wartortle.
'Paldean' Magikarp is now called 'Magiwyrm', befitting how Tierrados is a sandworm. While 'wyrm' wa supposed to be a deliberate misspelling of 'worm', since 'karp' is a misspelling of 'carp', 'wyrm' also fits the draconic theme tha the Magikarp line has.
Past Dynabear is based off that bear statue Brock held in the sam episode that Past Gengar, Alakazam, and Jigglypuff appeared.
The reasoning behind a lot of these inclusions is because there was a lack of Ice, Rock, Flying, Bug, and Fairy types, especially with a Pokédex that has a lot of Dark types. That is also the reason why I made Past Alakazam part Ice type.
(At least I can implement a 'Brain Freeze' pun I did years ago...)
The last 3 are actually placeholders in case DLC omes later. That is also why I left out 22 slots.
I am not sure if I am going to add Beta Igglybuff, since that is a small change in design.
 
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I just finished the main story in Scarlet so this was my second playthrough after finishing Violet. I prefer the red lizardbro because his emotions are more obvious which makes sense because purple lizard is a cyborg, he's still cool though.

I really, really like S&V. There are flaws but I think they might end up being up at the top. I've played Pokémon since the 90s so of course I'm a nostalgiafag but I had fun and they have that intangible quality of sovl. Paleda is OK, the towns are shit in the main with little personality but the bits inbetween make up for it. The final battle against the AI and the mean lizard at the end sounds really shit when it's written down but it works and is kino, possibly even more kino than the Delta Episode.
 
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