US 2022 Mid-Term Election

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George Lucas said:
Oh fuck off with the doomer shit. Did anyone think the Republicans would get a supermajority? What are they supposed to do? Pass bills that will be vetoed? They'll withhold funding on Biden's EOs and that's a win for the economy. The most important thing is that the progressive agenda is blocked and that's now 100% happening.
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Problem with that is RINOs who will praise themselves for reaching across the aisle for a reacharound.
 
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George Lucas said:
Did anyone think the Republicans would get a supermajority?
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Yes, they bloody well should have. Joe Biden is the most unpopular President in modern US history, perhaps all of US history (who would be worse? Buchanan maybe). Republicans should have absolutely curb-stomped him. Instead all the GOP leadership was offering the people was tax cuts for the rich and more money for Ukraine.

Trump is so popular with the base because he actually fights for things. Ron DeSantis too is a fighter, that's why he won big. Most of the other Republicans aren't fighters. They're a bunch of losers.

GOP needs to go the way of the Whig Party
 
Election Day needs to be a national holiday at this point.

If we giving national holidays to niggers like Juneteenth, then election day ought to be one.

Cuckservatives against that concept, can go fuck themselves at this point.
 
Dr J said:
Trump could easily neutralise the 'threat' posed by DeSantis by making him his running mate. A lot of people would like to see that ticket. I'd like to see that ticket. And it would be the best way to neutralise Paul Ryan, Karl Rove, etc
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I am starting to think Trump asked and DeSantis said no. My biggest issue with DeSantis running is he hasn't made his heir apparent known yet. Paul Ryan and the cuckservatives hate that florida is solid red and want it to stop.

Stoneheart said:
Why should he if he is running for florida gov?
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Because Trump clearly sees him playing butt touch with the neocons and sees that as a threat. A simple 'i have no plans to cut my term short' would fix everything.
 
Reticulan Joe said:
Central PA kiwi here. I’m seeing a lot of you piss and moan about us electing “a retard.” Let me remind you racist fascist filth that REPRESENTATION MATTERS!

But, seriously, let me offer my analysis on the subject - I’ll focus on the Fetterman/Oz race since that’s the interesting one.

First off, before you ask, I voted 3rd party, so I was going to lose no matter what, making me (perhaps) a more neutral observer here.

PA is a weird state. Electorally, we’re a “purple” state, and culturally, we’ve been described as “Philly and Pittsburgh with Kentucky in-between” and I don’t think that’s right, exactly - we’re not nearly as Jesusy as the South is - there are some parallels. Historically, the state’s interior has been focused on resource extraction (lumber, coal, nowadays fracking has become huge) and manufacturing (Pittsburgh + a huge number of mill towns along our waterways.) In much of the state, the first day of deer season is an unofficial holiday - we’re big on hunting and fishing here.

Historically, the democrats had a tight partnership with unions. That hasn’t been true for the better part of 50 years, but there are a lot of boomer democrats here who are loyal democrats pretty much out of inertia - they recall the good-paying jobs the union-staffed mills used to provide, and still see the democrats as the party of the working man. Later Gen X and younger folks don’t have that association, even if they happen to work in a unionized plant. They lean republican for cultural reasons, or that they believe that “lower taxes” are somehow going to trickle down to them.

The ugly reality is, of course, that neither party has any idea what the hell to do about America’s mothballed manufacturing base, and fracking is, particularly for democrats who purport to care about the environment, a devil’s bargain - high paying jobs at the cost of substantial environmental damage. “Climate change” is pretty abstract, but, “the fish are all dead/can’t be safely eaten” is very real to guys who are out fishing every weekend!

Fetterman has been a fixture in the western part of the state for a good 15 years. He’s very consciously tried to position himself as an old school, mill-town, union Democrat, of a sort which seems functionally almost extinct in the modern Democratic party. There’s a lot of critique of Fetterman that this is mostly a pose; i.e. that he hasn’t worked mill jobs, went to Harvard, etc, instead of coming up “organically,” which does carry some weight. Still, the image of a hoodie-wearing blue collar everyman was enough to endear him to the PA Democratic party, so even in light of his stroke just before the Democratic primary.

Now, Oz is a truly bizarre choice for PA; I’m surprised that even with Trump’s help he was able to win the nomination. Fetterman’s campaign was able to make a lot of hay by repeatedly pointing out that Oz doesn’t even live here; he’s from across the bridge in New Jersey. I’ve lived a couple of places where residents on one state make jokes about residents of another: in New England everyone shits on Massholes, Virginians sneer at those sister-fuckers in West Virginia, and here in PA we mock people from New Jersey, so this plays in very well to existing tropes. Also worth thinking about is that in the modern Democratic party it would be extremely déclassé to go after Oz for being Turkish or a Muslim, but going after him for being from New Jersey allows democrats to launder their loathing of “the foreigner” in a way that has at least a veneer of respectability.

Fetterman’s team was playing it cagey in keeping him out of the spotlight, but refusing to debate Oz at all raised too many questions about Fetterman’s health status, so he agreed to a debate in late October. It didn’t go particularly well for Fetterman; he was never that articulate a speaker (which may be intentional on his part) but seemed to be struggling with some degree of speech aphasia, to the point his polling dropped noticeably in the wake of the debate.

On Tuesday, PA residents had a rough choice: a blue-collar wannabe with some degree of brain damage, or an “out of state” guy who was best known for hawking snake oil with Oprah? A lot of pundits want to claim that Democrats were able to stop the red wave because young people came out, but I kind of suspect the old boomer democrats were the folks who really saved Fetterman, albeit for reasons that are based more on nostalgia than clear thinking.

(For the curious: Mastriano lost because he’s a tubby, unlikable wop whose entire platform was, “No abortions and gay marriage,” which are issues that PA folks are simply not *that* fired up about.)
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Insightful comment. How much do you think the fact that Dr Oz is a Turk / Muslim played into his electoral loss?
 
Dr J said:
Yes, they bloody well should have. Joe Biden is the most unpopular President in modern US history, perhaps all of US history (who would be worse? Buchanan maybe). Republicans should have absolutely curb-stomped him. Instead all the GOP leadership was offering the people was tax cuts for the rich and more money for Ukraine.

Trump is so popular with the base because he actually fights for things. Ron DeSantis too is a fighter, that's why he won big. Most of the other Republicans aren't fighters. They're a bunch of losers.

GOP needs to go the way of the Whig Party
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The Republican Party is stuck on this idea that tax cuts are a cheat code to winning elections, and all other issues are just too controversial and distracting from this one thing. They largely believe that if they can tamp down on all this unrest about other issues and bring the party back to focusing on cutting taxes and increasing military spending, they'll start bringing home victories again. That's why they refuse to engage other issues. Even in municipal races where the public is upset about skyrocketing crime and bums pissing everywhere, they just campaign on tax cuts. It's why they initially had Noem, Hutchison, and Abbot cuck on trans kids. It's why they had no message on COVID. They view everything that isn't a tax cut as a distraction.

Democrats haven't raised taxes significantly in 30 years, and yet, you still see retarded boomer conservatives saying, "Heh! Wait until those kids start paying taxes! Then they'll vote Republican." Bro, the Democrats are fighting to make it legal for a pedophile to kidnap my son and castrate him, I don't fucking care if you're going to lower the taxes on his state-mandated tranny titty pills.
 
What saved Ron Johnson in Wisconsin was Milwaukee county actually giving him votes instead of Barnes. Johnson‘s campaign hammered Barnes for being too left while the dems kept the major state offices was by running in the middle. The legislative chambers are heavily republican and can bypass Evers easily.
 
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The Ugly One said:
The Republican Party is stuck on this idea that tax cuts are a cheat code to winning elections, and all other issues are just too controversial and distracting from this one thing. They largely believe that if they can tamp down on all this unrest about other issues and bring the party back to focusing on cutting taxes and increasing military spending, they'll start bringing home victories again. That's why they refuse to engage other issues. Even in municipal races where the public is upset about skyrocketing crime and bums pissing everywhere, they just campaign on tax cuts. It's why they initially had Noem, Hutchison, and Abbot cuck on trans kids. It's why they had no message on COVID. They view everything that isn't a tax cut as a distraction.

Democrats haven't raised taxes significantly in 30 years, and yet, you still see retarded boomer conservatives saying, "Heh! Wait until those kids start paying taxes! Then they'll vote Republican." Bro, the Democrats are fighting to make it legal for a pedophile to kidnap my son and castrate him, I don't fucking care if you're going to lower the taxes on his state-mandated tranny titty pills.
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There should be like a meme or symbol for the DER ETERNAL TAX CUT or THE ETERNAL TAX CUT.
 
Meat Target said:
I don't think he can do that. Trump lives full-time at Mar-a-Lago now. Running mates have to come from different states.
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Bush and Cheney both lived in Texas. The residency thing is only a problem when the Electoral College go to vote and Trump can get around that by changing his voter registration back to New York (or New Jersey or anywhere else he might live)
ETA: Here's Robert Barnes on it
 
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Yes you genderosexual assclown, you're why democracy will stand, democracy meaning only your side with anyone else who disagrees with you silenced.
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