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Joe Biden is too timid. It is time to legalise cocaine​

The costs of prohibition outweigh the benefits

It makes no sense,” said Joe Biden on October 6th, as he pardoned the 6,000 or so Americans convicted of possessing a small amount of marijuana. Although cannabis is fully legal in 19 American states, at the federal level it is still deemed to be as dangerous as heroin and more so than fentanyl, two drugs that contributed to more than 100,000 Americans dying of opioid overdoses last year. But the president’s admission applies to drug policy more broadly. Prohibition is not working—and that can be seen most strikingly with cocaine, not cannabis.

Since Richard Nixon launched the “war on drugs” half a century ago, the flow of cocaine into the United States has surged. Global production hit a record of 1,982 tonnes in 2020, according to the latest data, though that is likely to be an underestimate. That record high is despite decades of strenuous and costly efforts to cut off the supply. Between 2000 and 2020 the United States ploughed $10bn into Colombia to suppress production, paying the local armed forces to spray coca plantations with herbicide from the air or to yank up bushes by hand. To no avail: when coca is eradicated on one hillside, it shifts to another.

The worst harm falls on producing and trafficking countries, where drug profits fuel violence. Murder in Colombia is three times more common than in the United States; in Mexico, four times. In some areas, drug gangs are so wealthy and well-armed that they rival the state, giving cops and officials the choice of plata o plomo (silver or lead): be corrupted or be killed. Prohibition also sucks children out of school, as drug gangs favour recruits who are too young to be prosecuted (see Graphic Detail).

Two presidents, Gustavo Petro of Colombia and Pedro Castillo of Peru, are clamouring for change. Mr Petro has suggested steering the police away from coca farmers by decriminalising coca leaf production and allowing Colombians to consume cocaine safely. These are all good ideas, but the cocaine gangs will remain powerful so long as their product is illegal in the rich countries that consume most of it, such as the United States.

Half-measures, such as not prosecuting cocaine users, are not enough. If producing the stuff is still illegal, it will be criminals who produce it, and decriminalisation of consumption will probably increase demand and boost their profits. The real answer is full legalisation, allowing non-criminals to produce a strictly regulated, highly taxed product, just as whisky- and cigarette-makers do. (Advertising it should be banned.)

Legal cocaine would be less dangerous, since legitimate producers would not adulterate it with other white powders and dosage would be clearly labelled, as it is on whisky bottles. Cocaine-related deaths have risen fivefold in America since 2010, mostly because gangs are cutting it with fentanyl, a cheaper and more lethal drug.

Legalisation would thereby defang the gangs. Obviously, some would find other revenues but the loss of cocaine profits would help curb their power to recruit, buy top-end weapons and corrupt officials. This would reduce drug-related violence everywhere, but most of all in the worst-affected region, Latin America.

If cocaine were legal, more people would take it. For some, this will be a choice: snorting a substance they know is unhealthy because it gives them pleasure. But cocaine is addictive. A paucity of research makes it hard to know how it compares with alcohol or tobacco on this score. More study is needed, as are greater efforts to treat addiction. This could be funded (and then some) by the money saved if the “war” were wound down.

In private, many officials understand that prohibition is not working any better than it did in Al Capone’s day. Just now full legalisation seems politically impossible: few politicians want to be called “soft on drugs”. But proponents must keep pressing their case. The benefits—safer cocaine, safer streets and greater political stability in the Americas—far outweigh the costs.
 

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Probably because there's still too much money to be made importing it to other countries where it's still illegal and sells for more, like most of Europe. It still gets brought into the USA since cartel weed is cheaper than corporate weed which gets hit by whatever state taxes, too.

I can see legal cocaine having a bit more impact on cartel profits mostly because the "oops all fent" risk would be absent if buying it at the base store, but gangs would still be importing it by the truckload to make crack.
 
Cocaine is one of the narcotics I can't in good conscience support being legalized, it has no upsides and all downsides. It's not mild like cannabis nor is it potentially helpful like acid. Legalizing cocaine would be like legalizing meth or heroin.
 
Legalizing weed was supposed to get rid of the cartels but it didn't.
Cartels shifted from weed being their easy money to human trafficking and literal slavery.
Also the black market in places like Cali still thrives because of the horrific amount of regulation damaging businesses.
 
Powder coke in and of itself I'm fine with being legal, I'm pretty liberal about drugs in general. The problem with cocaine is crack. Even if crack remained illegal, people would just buy powder coke and make their own.

Powder coke isn't very physically addictive compared to opioids, nicotine or alcohol and doesn't have difficult physical withdrawal symptoms to beat.

Pure freebase (non-crack) cocaine is also extremely addictive and is how rock stars and actors can manage to blow through $2,000 worth in one night.

I think decriminalizing it would probably result in a bit less net harm than prohibition, but overall it wouldn't be much of an improvement and would be too complicated to deal with.
 
Powder coke isn't very physically addictive compared to opioids, nicotine or alcohol and doesn't have difficult physical withdrawal symptoms to beat.
Tell me you don't know shit about drugs without saying you don't know shit about drugs.

Cocaine is one of the most addictive narcotics on Earth, it was infamous in the 80s for a reason.
 
Legalizing weed was supposed to get rid of the cartels but it didn't.
That's how it was sold, but I didn't believe for a second it would make a difference, it was as silly as arguing the discontinuation of the apple pie would financially hurt McDonalds.....

Tell me you don't know shit about drugs without saying you don't know shit about drugs.

Cocaine is one of the most addictive narcotics on Earth, it was infamous in the 80s for a reason.
It was the reason for the very first anti-drug laws anywhere in the country, under Teddy Freakin' Roosevelt..... that's how long we've known it's bad and not to be given to the public in unlimited uncontrolled amounts. Every 'bad' drug that's become a scourge on society since (heroin, meth, fentanyl, oxy) was actually born from a failed attempt to find something more addictive than coke to get people off it, but, less harmful in the long run so they don't end up just as bad or worse when they inevitably keep abusing.

And then the usual bad actors in society just developed a synthetic version of all the "replacements" to corner the narc market that WERE just as bad.

It ALL goes back to cocaine being given out like literal candy.

The Drug War is a lost cause, I'll give you that, but, keeping cocaine illegal is one of those "least-bad-poor-choices" things.

And those arguing FOR it's legalization are guilty of some parallel thinking along the lines of "Well, REAL communism hasn't been tried yet"


We tried unlimited coke, and it didn't work out.
 
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That's how it was sold, but I didn't believe for a second it would make a difference, it was as silly as arguing the discontinuation of the apple pie would financially hurt McDonalds.....
It probably did make a difference, in that they leaned more heavily into selling harder drugs.
 
Probably because there's still too much money to be made importing it to other countries where it's still illegal and sells for more, like most of Europe. It still gets brought into the USA since cartel weed is cheaper than corporate weed which gets hit by whatever state taxes, too.
nobody in Europe imports weed from the US or Mexico. spain and portugal have a grey market and legalish weed for the locals, germany grows the tax free weed for the dutch and czech, eastern europe is lawless, nobody cares if you grow weed in scandinavia and last time i was on the balkan, locals tried to sell me automatic weapons next to a moonshine stand at the roadside.
 
Can all of you coke-boosters stop embarrassing yourself, and can we comment on the fact that the whole point of this article is "The parts of the world that aren't shitholes need to let themselves be poisoned by the shithole countries because the shithole countries are too much a band of pathetic pussies to solve their own problem"?
 
Can all of you coke-boosters stop embarrassing yourself, and can we comment on the fact that the whole point of this article is "The parts of the world that aren't shitholes need to let themselves be poisoned by the shithole countries because the shithole countries are too much a band of pathetic pussies to solve their own problem"?
That's not news. We've all known that since the Pablo days.
 
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