Gamergate III: Rise of the Machines

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They should have tried to do stuff like this, specially since I heard the children stuff is not a big part of the game like in Awekening. At least I believe people would have been less freaked out if the "fake lesbian girl" actually had a same sex couple.
 
GL99 said:
Yeah. That's the nice thing about how easy it is to mod games these days. Don't like an aspect of a particular game? A few lines of code and you can cut it out. Want more of something (same-sex relationships, in this case)? Another few lines of code and a few hours writing dialogue for the characters and you can have it. Everybody's happy.
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That depends of who does it because in the other side they can do that too, and well...


People is still having ragefits in the website and in twitter about this, i actually don't see why this is bad but well people has to bitch for something

and of course it was featured in kotaku by the usual suspects and lulz were had
 
Cubanodun said:
That depends of who does it because in the other side they can do that too, and well...
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Yeah. Well, I find that stuff annoying, but in that case it was some father who edited the rom for his daughter (who's probably too young to be steeped in SJW nonsense), so I can't fault him too much. But yeah, I get what you're saying, there's nothing keeping crazies from making all kinds of weird romhacks. That's life, though, you take the good and the bad. Having to sort through some furry pangendered rainbow crap is a price I'm willing to pay for getting cool, interesting game mods every once in a while.
 
I think that, if we stablish that Nintendo doesn't care about how they write their video games or to not botch features, then people has more reason to not care if same sex marriege or gender neutral pronouns are modfied. In this case, it works both ways (it would funny if GG or SJW reacted from one change above the other)
 
raymond said:
So I have a question...

Games have been getting censored or localized in stupid ways for pretty much as long as they've been getting imported. Why are we acting like it's something new? Especially considering that it's Nintendo.

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The Jynx shit was a legitimate example of reasonable localization. It simply wasn't racist in Japan.

It was just that in the United States, Jynx inescapably resembled a specific racial stereotype more or less unique to English speaking countries. This resemblance, though, was entirely coincidental.

Shit like that is why you hire localization firms in the first place.

When the localization firm decides its own idiosyncratic, weird SJW views should allow it to completely rewrite shit to spew its own personal agenda, though, they're taking a company's money to do shit the company is not paying them to do.
 
AnOminous said:
The Jynx shit was a legitimate example of reasonable localization. It simply wasn't racist in Japan.

It was just that in the United States, Jynx inescapably resembled a specific racial stereotype more or less unique to English speaking countries. This resemblance, though, was entirely coincidental.

Shit like that is why you hire localization firms in the first place.

When the localization firm decides its own idiosyncratic, weird SJW views should allow it to completely rewrite shit to spew its own personal agenda, though, they're taking a company's money to do shit the company is not paying them to do.
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Thought in this casde, the company is owned by Nintendo.
 
GL99 said:
I hate to be a downer, but it looks like Fates is doing the opposite of bombing.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ollieba...nch-but-not-without-controversy/#2fabf2a130e3



I think Ollie is either pro-GG or at least neutral, so it's not as if he's gloating about this. It's a lamentable thing, but however great the outcry over the censorship has been online, it either hasn't done all that much or the game did well enough anyway that Nintendo is not likely to pay attention to it in the future.
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Three things:

First: This was clearly going to happen regardless of fan backlash. Even with thousands of people petitioning online, even with massive social media pressure, preorders alone cinched that. A lot of people bought it because they liked Awakening, and they're not going to pick up on it until they see the atrocious writing and hear the embarassingly bad audio that the game was essentially a giant fuck-up from start to finish.

Second: The current sales have nothing to do with fan backlash or the entire thing being an all-singing all-dancing shit-show that could have been localized better by a couple of weebs in a basement. Hype for this game was huge. It's not a unique phenomenon. Duke Nukem Forever sold 375000 copies its first month, and that game generated enough negative press and ridicule that it's practically an internet legend. If you think good sales will save a game from backlash, go familiarize yourself with Mass Effect 3.

Third: How well do you think they'll be able to roll a double? Do you really think that in the aftermath of the quality of this translation, we'll see a repeat of those sales? No. Gamers in general have long memories, and none so long or bitter as an enraged weeb (except for the neckbearded rage of a fa/tg/uy or ca/tg/irl when Warhammer 40,000 is on the line).
 
I think we need to also consider in that the average gamer doesn't pay attention to gaming news they just want to have fun. Of course a popular game is going to make money, the average user is going to go by reputation or what other people said is cool. Games are meant to be entertainment and when people buy a game they want to have fun. Whether or not future games in the series will continue to sell well will depend on how much goodwill they still have after the fact.
 
Jaimas said:
Duke Nukem Forever sold 375000 copies its first month, and that game generated enough negative press and ridicule that it's practically an internet legend. If you think good sales will save a game from backlash, go familiarize yourself with Mass Effect 3.

Third: How well do you think they'll be able to roll a double? Do you really think that in the aftermath of the quality of this translation, we'll see a repeat of those sales? No. Gamers in general have long memories, and none so long or bitter as an enraged weeb (except for the neckbearded rage of a fa/tg/uy or ca/tg/irl when Warhammer 40,000 is on the line).
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This is certainly true enough, with Mass Effect 3 didn't they have to release a patch that redid the ending or something? And the fan translation, while not perfect (right now it's riddled with typos) is pretty comprehensive.

If Nintendo learns its lesson, I wonder if they'll just hire the fan translators rather than dealing with Treehouse for the next installment. That's not entirely unheard of--there's a recent visual novel game on Kickstarter, Muv-Luv, where some weebs made an unofficial translation of it. Later on the Japanese creators just emailed them and asked them to work on the official release, which they happily did. Now pretty much the only thing the Japanese creators had to do was give the original fan-translation some light editing and double-checking, improve the VA (the original had terrible, terrible Engrish), and send it out. It certainly seems more economical than this localization chaos.
 
Well, Sekai Project has other localizations in their portafolios, so is not exactly like they were hired when they were just doing fan translations. They had also hired other localization studios, Awakening and Xenoblade X was localized by 8-4. (they also had their localization controversies, but not as big as this one) .

If anything, Treehouse was getting way more popular and visible with the Nintendo fans (the E3 streams) until recent localizations and company decisions had made them look like a shadow of their former selfs. I mean, they made localization changes in many games, but the trade offs where more balanced or made more sense given the family friendly catalogue. As stuff like Fire Emblem and Xenoblade is going to the rated T market, the audience of this games are less forgiving over this stuff. Compare a die hard Nintendo fan that still believes Nintendo was right in deleting Swapnote or that party chat for Splatoon is the devil with weeb still debating with people of honorifics should or not be used in Persona 3/4.

Sooner or later, Nintendo need to understand that they cannot try to be western family friendly in every single company title when projects like #FE are funded (and are expected to be localized) and trying to appeal to the weeb market.
 
GL99 said:
This is certainly true enough, with Mass Effect 3 didn't they have to release a patch that redid the ending or something? And the fan translation, while not perfect (right now it's riddled with typos) is pretty comprehensive.

If Nintendo learns its lesson, I wonder if they'll just hire the fan translators rather than dealing with Treehouse for the next installment. That's not entirely unheard of--there's a recent visual novel game on Kickstarter, Muv-Luv, where some weebs made an unofficial translation of it. Later on the Japanese creators just emailed them and asked them to work on the official release, which they happily did. Now pretty much the only thing the Japanese creators had to do was give the original fan-translation some light editing and double-checking, improve the VA (the original had terrible, terrible Engrish), and send it out. It certainly seems more economical than this localization chaos.
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Yeah, the patch for the ME 3 added 1 new ending and redid the old ones.
 
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Goddamn, what the fuck is the connection between people who shit on gamers and pedos?
 
Shit, now THIS might be a valid link between aGG/SJWs/whatever to pedophilia. Cc @Jaimas
 
Future treehouse translations are going to include pro-pedophilia content at this rate.
 
Dynastia said:
no one cares about your gamergate sperging
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I'm more concerned about the goddamned pedophile than the gaming shit at the end of the day. Pissing off gamers just makes the person in question an asshole. Trying to normalize child porn makes that person a menace to society.
 
I just read that horrifying thesis, here's the short version:

'Why does everyone bitch about child porn so much. All child porn laws are based on moralizations that are forced internationally due to cultural imperialism. It was acceptable at certain point in history, let's quit pressuring other nations like Japan to crackdown on possession, distribution, and viewing of child porn"

No shit, she actually went there, and if she truly believes that way, I don't want her to have any influence over an industry that markets products to children.
 
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