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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%
  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%
  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%
  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%
  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%
  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%
  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%
  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%
  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%
  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%

  • Total voters
    1,073
I'm shocked no one's made the connection that Prey is also a metaphor for American colonialism.

Native Americans encounter a technologically superior group from a far away land that wipes most of them out with ease.
Sounds more like a metaphor for smallpox.
 
They said it was “okay”, ffs. Some people need to chill.
This is why I really try to stress how the streaming effect influences them.

We're talking about people who sit down and watch shit movies for entertainment (or at least did before it became a part of their job ;) ). You have to take into account that them saying it's "okay" pretty much means just that, it's "okay". If this was a movie only in theaters, they probably would have said the same shit but wouldn't have recommended going out to see it because of the investment of going to the theater, paying 15-20 dollars for a ticket, etc. etc.

People need to keep that in perspective in the back of their head when they make these recommendations. They're probably not going to tell you a streaming film is worth completely ignoring unless it's like offensively bad to the point it isn't even funny or just mind-numbingly boring.

They pretty much told you everything you need to know to make the decision yourself. It's The Predator, but with a Comanche girl. They liked her and her brothers acting. The Comanche dub was interesting but Jay didn't like the execution. The CGI was a bit "eh". They don't consider themselves woke or anti woke, but they did see the "strong female" thing going on in it.
 
I just gave up on streaming services altogether (except for Amazon Prime, but that has more to do with delivery services) and went back to digital antenna, blu-ray, or Youtube videos. If I want boomer shows, I can get that for free or recognize that it's exceptional and buy physical media.
There's also an impressive array of free streaming services out there too. I'm not even talking about the high seas, but you'd be surprised what you can find out there.
 
The only reason 50% of Americans even know Wisconsin is a state is because The Packers are a culturally well known and competitive football team.
ALL Americans know about Wisconsin because of that dastardly spider invasion back in the fall of '75. Those scars don't heal, man...
 
The Re:View was a 40 minute whine about fanboys that completely missed what was so grating about the main character.
This seems to a persistent problem with modern writers and their 'Girl Boss!' characters, the fact that their character must always be presented as heroically right, even as they do stupid and occasionally downright evil shit you're still expected to clap.
My problem here is two fold, first is they picked the Comanche and had their hero be a female hunter. Native American tribes didn't allow females to hunt, they stayed in camp. Not only because patriarchal structure but because if they did and the tribe encounted the Apaches, who were known for being bloody warriors, they wouldn't hesitate to drag the women back to their camp to be claimed like many of the horses the natives fought over during that time.
Second was she received no push back whatso ever to being a hunter. When she ran away from camp, the elder should have written her off and declared her exile, not sent an entire party to go look for her. You wouldn't send an entire party for one stupid female hunter that has delusions of grandeur.

One of my favorite stories is Tin Star, a game where you can play a white/native even chinese male/female marshal and the game will call you out on it. A female chinese marshal is ahistorical but because the characters call me out saying "Didn't you here, the female celestial marshal of lander county? She's a rare one," it makes you feel like you actually exist in the universe, despite bending history.
I bring this up in contrast because Prey is a "Girl Boss" story, she's never fought back against for wanting to be a hunter, never told to just stay in camp because the Europeans are encroaching on Plain tribe lands, never shown how heavy a bow is or how she can even carry all that gear that distance.
Because she's never told "no," the story is a pure femenist fantasy and that's the core of the movie. Alot of people will gloss over by saying "it's good" and "just give it a watch." But for me, it's a bigger issue, the historical revisionism to allow this BS to exist.

The fact it doesn't even try to sell you the fantasy is what really gets my goat, they just expect you to sympathize with a female native hunter, with absolutely no set up or historical coating to make it ahistorical. Fug, that fluff is what's needed here yet people just consume the movie saying it's good.

RLM really dropped the ball here.
 
RLM really dropped the ball here.

It truly is shocking that there was a less than fastidious deconstruction of the cultural agenda of a crappy sci-fi flick from the team that brought you Space Cop and Gorilla Interrupted.
 
It truly is shocking that there was a less than fastidious deconstruction of the cultural agenda of a crappy sci-fi flick from the team that brought you Space Cop and Gorilla Interrupted.
Fine, lemme put it this way. Since Mike and Jay are so fond of rewriting movies, let's try this:

The story opens opens on a girl who is contrasted with her brother being a hunter. Montage of her growing up, her brother being seen with a mentor while she's relegated to camp. She watches as the hunting parties head out each day, her brother included. But being in camp she learns different skills, how to cook food properly, how to properly handle a cooking knife, how to fix up clothing. That kind of thing, she has an eye for details.
Cue to her waiting for the hunting parties to return one evening. The tribe welcome back the hunters but one is missing. Her brother and mentor make a note of it and vow to go look in the morning. Strange sounds are heard throughout the night and by morning the hunting parties go in groups. The atmosphere around the tribe has turned anxious and by evening, one entire group is missing. Mentor and brother are stoic faced as they found the remains of the missing hunter desecrated on a tree.

Something is hunting them.

The Elder makes the decision, move west from the encampment they have set up. They're camped at the edge of the Colorado plains being Comanche so they'll head into the Rockies in the hopes of escaping it. Through the night they pack camp and get little sleep to be ready to move by morning.
As the tribe start to move, the hunters are spaced out evenly. As night approaches, commotion at the back, screams and yells from the back of the caravan drive people forward in a panic. People get separated, brother and sister stay together but mentor goes back and tries to get people together. Night falls and they find a small group huddled around a camp fire, mostly women and children. Mentor has not returned and tribe face unknown danger. Brother makes decision that sister should take small group north instead, around the mountains and try to contact friendly tribe.
Brother then hands her a discarded bow. Sister leaves. As she's out of camera shot, first reveal of predator. This one is determined to pick off every last person who escapes, has already killed off most of the caravan in the night including the Elder, most of the hunters and dragging Mentor's skull to show Brother.
Brother loads up an arrow and fires but cracks against the visor of the predator's helmet. Brother is killed in gruesome fashion. Sister doesn't hear his death yell but assumes he's dead.

Cut to Sister, others in group are slowing her down. Get to a river and see the predator uncloaked behind her drenched in dry blood. Hear yell of bear nearby fishing in river. While her group is on the otherside of the river, urges them to run while she runs towards the bear. Grabs fish from water, snaps it drawing blood then throws it at Predator. Bear, sees her, sniffs air and charges after fresh fish and predator. Predator kills bear but sister escapes west into rockies. Notices that predator's mask is cracked after engagement with Brother.

Spends night climbing up to summit. Dawn breaking before the predator stands before her, realizes that she is the last of the worthy prey of the tribe. She dodges plasma blasts but gets throw up against a rock. Gets her bow, knocks it and launches a single arrow that goes through the cracked visor, headshot. Predator falls dramatically off cliff, probably dead.
It takes Sister a week or so to locate her tribe but when she retells her story, the remnants of her tribe believe her. They then merge with a sister tribe that take her on as a hunter, with her showing the predator's visor and claw as a trophy.

Fin.

The only way for a female to be a hunter among the Native Americans is if there's literally no other choice. I'm sick of stories that force in "Girl Boss" into historical settings like this, she gets absolutely no push back and the movie studios just expect the public to fucking buy it unearned. That's what my autism doesn't like.
 
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Fine, lemme put it this way. Since Mike and Jay are so fond of rewriting movies, let's try this:

The story opens opens on a girl who is contrasted with her brother being a hunter. Montage of her growing up, her brother being seen with a mentor while she's relegated to camp. She watches as the hunting parties head out each day, her brother included. But being in camp she learns different skills, how to cook food properly, how to properly handle a cooking knife, how to fix up clothing. That kind of thing, she has an eye for details.
Cue to her waiting for the hunting parties to return one evening. The tribe welcome back the hunters but one is missing. Her brother and mentor make a note of it and vow to go look in the morning. Strange sounds are heard throughout the night and by morning the hunting parties go in groups. The atmosphere around the tribe has turned anxious and by evening, one entire group is missing. Mentor and brother are stoic faced as they found the remains of the missing hunter desecrated on a tree.

Something is hunting them.

The Elder makes the decision, move west from the encampment they have set up. They're camped at the edge of the Colorado plains being Comanche so they'll head into the Rockies in the hopes of escaping it. Through the night they pack camp and get little sleep to be ready to move by morning.
As the tribe start to move, the hunters are spaced out evenly. As night approaches, commotion at the back, screams and yells from the back of the caravan drive people forward in a panic. People get separated, brother and sister stay together but mentor goes back and tries to get people together. Night falls and they find a small group huddled around a camp fire, mostly women and children. Mentor has not returned and tribe face unknown danger. Brother makes decision that sister should take small group north instead, around the mountains and try to contact friendly tribe.
Brother then hands her a discarded bow. Sister leaves. As she's out of camera shot, first reveal of predator. This one is determined to pick off every last person who escapes, has already killed off most of the caravan in the night including the Elder, most of the hunters and dragging Mentor's skull to show Brother.
Brother loads up an arrow and fires but cracks against the visor of the predator's helmet. Brother is killed in gruesome fashion. Sister doesn't hear his death yell but assumes he's dead.

Cut to Sister, others in group are slowing her down. Get to a river and see the predator uncloaked behind her drenched in dry blood. Hear yell of bear nearby fishing in river. While her group is on the otherside of the river, urges them to run while she runs towards the bear. Grabs fish from water, snaps it drawing blood then throws it at Predator. Bear, sees her, sniffs air and charges after fresh fish and predator. Predator kills bear but sister escapes west into rockies. Notices that predator's mask is cracked after engagement with Brother.

Spends night climbing up to summit. Dawn breaking before the predator stands before her, realizes that she is the last of the worthy prey of the tribe. She dodges plasma blasts but gets throw up against a rock. Gets her bow, knocks it and launches a single arrow that goes through the cracked visor, headshot. Predator falls dramatically off cliff, probably dead.
It takes Sister a week or so to locate her tribe but when she retells her story, the remnants of her tribe believe her. They then merge with a sister tribe that take her on as a hunter, with her showing the predator's visor and claw as a trophy.

Fin.

The only way for a female to be a hunter among the Native Americans is if there's literally no other choice. I'm sick of stories that force in "Girl Boss" into historical settings like this, she gets absolutely no push back and the movie studios just expect the public to fucking buy it unearned. That's what my autism doesn't like.
I was actually thinking of something similar though changing the end. Couple of different ways to go about it (like from her "woman's work" she knows what's poisonous and what's not - uses that against the predator) - heck you could have her figure out the predator's "rules" and have the tables reversed where she starts stalking it using the fact that she's unarmed and seemingly "unworthy" to keep it from paying her much mind until she lays a trap and it's too late for it.

OR if they really wanted to tie in all the continuity, have her run into the white men at one point and she brings the predator to them and it kills them off, culminating in acquiring the gun - then it ends up leaving her tribe alone because its bloodlust is satiated. It could even play then into Billy's scene, like his tribe gained this belief if a worthy enough warrior sacrificed himself, the sky demon would go away.
 
The only one the Predator leaves alone is her
No, it leaves aside the bunny, and any other thing that it doesn't feel is a threat to itself. The movie goes out of its way to portray it to you, and in order to make sure the retards in the audience get it, they have the main character twice go 'IT DOESN'T SEE ME AS A THREAT'
 
No, it leaves aside the bunny, and any other thing that it doesn't feel is a threat to itself. The movie goes out of its way to portray it to you, and in order to make sure the retards in the audience get it, they have the main character twice go 'IT DOESN'T SEE ME AS A THREAT'
You are talking in circles. It only does not see her as a threat because of plot armor. She could just as easily throw a spear or shoot this Predator like anyone else. She is literally just as dangerous as anyone other person in the film and proves it by fighting the Predator hand to hand. It has seen her hunting animals with weapons earlier in the film. She is dressed like the other redskins the Predator has seen and fought. She moves like a hunter. And she literally ends up killing it.

The Predator movies use this stupid idea all of the time. Like having them walk past Weyland in AvP because he has a weak heart, so he is not a threat, yet seconds later he is throwing flames on one of them and could easily have killed them if he had explosives. They just had the Predator ignore Weyland so they could have their stupid "cool" moment of Weyland being a badass and saying "don't turn your back on me!".

I can understand the Predators sparing the woman in AvP because the one Predator marked her as a hunter so they respect that. Or the small child in Predator 2 "want some candy?". Or the xeno in Alien 3 spared Ripley because it knows she is pregnant with a queen so it does not want to harm her. But the Predators sparing potentially dangerous foes, in the middle of combat, makes no sense. You can almost excuse it in the first film because Anna never really shows any threat level and is tied up and clearly in distress. But Naru from Prey shows to the Predator she is a hunter and uses weapons and the environment immediately upon it first seeing her. It just spares her because of magic plot armor. If anything the Predator should have killed her right during the bear encounter.
 
The ET segment was the best part, them crying about reviews felt forced
Crying? They picked out some obvious bad faith reviews worth mocking while also pointing out that the main character was a bit too Mary Sue.

Like I’m sorry they didn’t spend the entire reviewer mocking and shitting all over it, but some of you really are taking a review that was essentially “eh, it was alright…” way too personally.

They literally said multiple times that ones complaining like those reviews was an extremely small minority.
 
Crying? They picked out some obvious bad faith reviews worth mocking while also pointing out that the main character was a bit too Mary Sue.

Like I’m sorry they didn’t spend the entire reviewer mocking and shitting all over it, but some of you really are taking a review that was essentially “eh, it was alright…” way too personally.

They literally said multiple times that ones complaining like those reviews was an extremely small minority.

Personally I like it when they remain difficult to nail down. The bitching and moaning from guys like Nerdrotic about them not shitting all over Obi-Wan was priceless -- and I generally agree with those guys.
 
Crying? They picked out some obvious bad faith reviews worth mocking while also pointing out that the main character was a bit too Mary Sue.

Like I’m sorry they didn’t spend the entire reviewer mocking and shitting all over it, but some of you really are taking a review that was essentially “eh, it was alright…” way too personally.

They literally said multiple times that ones complaining like those reviews was an extremely small minority.

I didn't even make a comment about their views on the movie (which I had no issue with) but the segment going on about the reviews dragged on, it wasn't entertaining, it wasn't witty, or creative, it was just a way for them to vent and pad out the video time, and I'm not going to pretend it wasn't a slog to get through.
 
I didn't even make a comment about their views on the movie (which I had no issue with) but the segment going on about the reviews dragged on, it wasn't entertaining, it wasn't witty, or creative, it was just a way for them to vent and pad out the video time, and I'm not going to pretend it wasn't a slog to get through.

Honestly, I rarely watch Half in the Bag anymore. Re:View I'll watch if it's something I know or am at least curious about (the Freddy Got Fingered episode was shockingly entertaining), and BotW I watch as soon as it's released, but Half in the Bag got pretty dry for me a long time ago. Their sketches aren't Nostalgia Critic-level unwatchable, but "funny because it's deliberately unfunny" can get to be a chore.
 
ALL Americans know about Wisconsin because of that dastardly spider invasion back in the fall of '75. Those scars don't heal, man...
More people should know about Allentown, PA for introducing that scourge of asian stink bugs to the U.S. It wasn't until last year that the density of the fuckers finally went down in PA because they've spread out across the entire U.S.
 
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I didn't even make a comment about their views on the movie (which I had no issue with) but the segment going on about the reviews dragged on, it wasn't entertaining, it wasn't witty, or creative, it was just a way for them to vent and pad out the video time, and I'm not going to pretend it wasn't a slog to get through.
You literally claimed they were crying about reviews when that’s not what they were doing it all. It’s fine if you thought it was boring(I personally didn’t), but saying they did something they clearly weren’t doing is just bad faith, man.
 
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