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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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the website wagner2022.org seems like legit Vagner RF private corps site and this doesn't look like photoshop.

I guess RF bros have a sense of humor and figure that 200'000 pay (*paid net 60, monthly, i.e. your first paycheck comes 3mo after you are in the grinder) could be further incentivized with a washing machine the dude in the center is carrying (yeah, euro washing machines are smaller than US models)

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A PMC openly operating in a country with an active Criminal Code article for being a mercenary (spoiler, up to 20 years) calling people to join what is basically a Forever War.
Kojima, you genius bastard.
 
There is too their Telegram 'Reverse Side of the Medal' which seems to be at least the work of members of it under some sort of editoral approval. Their statements are careful to limit any critical words against the RU forces to attacking those servants failing the 'Little Tsar Father of the Rus' who Putin more sees himself as the mountainous Ukrainian banning Alexander III. Apparently there is to be referendum (or it is planne) in the occupied areas outside Donbas to join Russia. That result will be so unpredictable. /sneed

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⚡️The Armed Forces of Ukraine resolutely repulsed the assaults of the Russian Federation in several directions, - the General Staff.

▪️Bakhmut direction. Our soldiers repelled attempts to storm the areas of Kodema and Belogorovka and capture the settlement. Controversial and Top.

▪️Zaporozhye direction. Accurate fire of the Armed Forces of Ukraine quickly suppressed the enemy offensive near the settlement. Water.

▪️The invaders are advancing on Slavyansk and are trying to advance in the direction of Seversk, Soledar and Bakhmut.
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❗️An attempt to improve the tactical situation in the directions Sladkoe - Vodyanoye - Vladimirovka, Yegorovka - Pavlovka ended with significant losses for the Russian invaders

Under the fire of Ukrainian soldiers, the remnants of the enemy forces withdrew, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

And in the Kurakhovsky, Novopavlovsky and Zaporizhzhya directions, the enemy carried out artillery shelling in the areas of the settlements of Novomikhailovka, Pavlovka, Prechistovka, Novopol, Mirnoye, Maly Shcherbaki.
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Denys Davydov on retaking the occupied land.
 
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So, can someone updated me on what's going on? I tried looking at the other thread on Happenings for a "both sides view" but it's like twenty pages of REEEing "Ukraine bad" and barely anything on the actual conflict progression so I'm guessing it must be going horribly for Russia about now.
 
So, can someone updated me on what's going on?
not much right now. after taking lysychansk the russian advance slowed down a lot.
there's rumors about russia preparing to move on sloviansk and kramatorsk, there's also rumors about ukraine preparing to move on kherson in the south, but nobody can tell for sure what the next move for either side is going to be.
 
So, can someone updated me on what's going on? I tried looking at the other thread on Happenings for a "both sides view" but it's like twenty pages of REEEing "Ukraine bad" and barely anything on the actual conflict progression so I'm guessing it must be going horribly for Russia about now.

not a whole lot clay taking after Lysychansk was left by UAF

UAF used HIMARS to blow up two dozen depots with mostly ammo and few officers

RF bombed Vinnitsa performing arts and a hospital yesterday, few universities today in Mikolaeyev.

UAF posted statement that m270 MLRS just arrived in Ukraine to join HIMARS in their campaign of ammo depot terror. At least we're up to more fireworks.
 
So, can someone updated me on what's going on? I tried looking at the other thread on Happenings for a "both sides view" but it's like twenty pages of REEEing "Ukraine bad" and barely anything on the actual conflict progression so I'm guessing it must be going horribly for Russia about now.
Russia has currently suspended any major operations because according to putin the troops need to rest after liberating Lugansk so not much movement on the eastern front outside of RF blasting every civilian object they can, Ukrainian counteroffensive isn't moving either outside of blasting any and all RF ammo depots and op centers in HIMARS range.

Lots of whispers about "secret" mobilization in Russia, supposedly every oblast was told (ordered) to come up with at least a couple hundred volunteers and they're hiring anyone, including 60 year olds.

Basically it stalled, both sides are arming up, Ukraine wants to have around 1 million soldiers ready and Russia is trying to rebuild some BTGs and maybe keep inching forward, they're also heavily fortifying occupied cities in preparation for Ukrainian counteroffensive.
 
Russia has currently suspended any major operations because according to putin the troops need to rest after liberating Lugansk so not much movement on the eastern front outside of RF blasting every civilian object they can, Ukrainian counteroffensive isn't moving either outside of blasting any and all RF ammo depots and op centers in HIMARS range.

Lots of whispers about "secret" mobilization in Russia, supposedly every oblast was told (ordered) to come up with at least a couple hundred volunteers and they're hiring anyone, including 60 year olds.

Basically it stalled, both sides are arming up, Ukraine wants to have around 1 million soldiers ready and Russia is trying to rebuild some BTGs and maybe keep inching forward, they're also heavily fortifying occupied cities in preparation for Ukrainian counteroffensive.
And I hate to keep beatin on this point here but if the situation you were talking about described some hypothetical war between tajikistan and azerbaijan where both sides were vaguely equal in terms of population and military assets and whatnot (maybe, i have no fcking idea, i just used the two as an example) then this would be a fairly run of the mill war between third world country A and third world country B like so many others...

...but since it describes the self proclaimed 2nd/1st most powerful and badass military on the planet and its massively smaller/poorer/less populous/less militarised/geographically disadvantaged neighbor after 5 months of a surprise invasion, it really does illustrate just how much of a historical fuckup this whole debacle has been.

Hell to use one infamous example from the last century, the much maligned and mocked italian invasion of greece during WW2 which while having been long seen as the epitome of military failure and ineptitude by a delusional third rate power against an outmatched yet determined enemy, Italy had (with the help of Germany and the rest of the Axis) still definitively won that conflict and occupied Greece by day 177 of their invasion.

Russia is currently on day 142, and despite the vastly more favorable geographical/economic/military/logistical circumstances, they have ground to a halting stalemate in which they are bleeding through their miniscule reserves of modern equipment/trained personel and replacing it with spammed conscripts armed with trash, and should this stalemate still be in effect a month from now, or god forbid Ukraine is able to continue inching back its territory, then russia would have by every meaningful estimate unseated WW2 Italy as the Standard Historical Military Fuckup Reference
 
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You want to know what I find funny? These same people who normally are the first people in the world to tell you that their countries deserve the right to fend for themselves without globohomo fuckery are the exact same vatnik wiggers who think Ukraine should just roll over dead and let Mother Russia skullfuck them in every orifice. Ukraine's leader is a jew, therefore all 44 million Ukies are khokhol scum that deserve bullets and missiles and to be wiped off the face of the earth. Don't agree? You must be a cuck.

It's an even bigger kneeslapper once you realise that Ukraine is 95%+ white still, while Russia is a multiethnic shithole with a beyond shitty reputation. Except for Belarus and Serbia, all other countries in Eastern Europe ran for the NATO hills the second they could. Why do you think this is?
I'm not aware of anyone saying Ukraine should just roll over, but even if there are some it's not the popular sentiment among "anti-Ukraine" chuds. The Special Military Operation ™️ in Ukraine was never just "Ukraine is being invaded and defending itself!" It shouldn't be a surprise when "these same people" that you mention aren't eager to be expected to care or support a country that isn't even an ally of their own and in the case of Americans has direct and corrupt ties to their own extremely unpopular federal administration. Uncertainty is abound all over the world and this only adds to it, but people ultimately care more about their own issues, not those of slavs hundreds or thousands of miles away.
Ukrainian leadership has exacerbated this and alienated the demographic you're talking about by lying to the world in an attempt to garner more aid and even draw in other militaries directly. Within the context of the media that has parroted those lies it only gets worse since to many that fall within the "these people" demographic the media is a lying propaganda apparatus by default. Finally, I'd argue that "these people" tend to be nationalists who don't appreciate globalism and the international aid/defense of Ukraine is very much led by the main globalist figures "these people" have come to hate.

Their agnosticism or even disdain for Ukraine shouldn't be a surprise at all.
 
I'm not aware of anyone saying Ukraine should just roll over, but even if there are some it's not the popular sentiment among "anti-Ukraine" chuds.
The chorus of "MUH FIGHT TO MUH LAST UKRAINIAN" and "MUH CATTLE FOR GLOBOHOMO" whenever the topic of ukrainian civilian casualties or the prospect of ukraine not surrendering immediately suggests otherwise.

The Special Military Operation ™️ in Ukraine was never just "Ukraine is being invaded and defending itself!" It shouldn't be a surprise when "these same people" that you mention aren't eager to be expected to care or support a country that isn't even an ally of their own and in the case of Americans has direct and corrupt ties to their own extremely unpopular federal administration.
Which is why they are cooming over Russia and how righteous and mighty it is despite it being... like literally all of these

Uncertainty is abound all over the world and this only adds to it, but people ultimately care more about their own issues, not those of slavs hundreds or thousands of miles away.
K. So why are they aggressively and regularly simping for the *other* group of slavs hundreds or thousands of miles away and throwing shitfits whenever they see mockery or criticism of them?

Ukrainian leadership has exacerbated this and alienated the demographic you're talking about by lying to the world in an attempt to garner more aid and even draw in other militaries directly.
"BREAKING NEWS: Country being invaded by much larger and more militarised neighbor is trying to get help from said neighbor's geopolitical enemies"

Also are you still on the "bucha was an inside job and everyone there just murdered themselves" train or is this about that human rights worker who was not properly verifying rumors and reports of russian sexual abuse that were flooding in a few months back? Or are you still huffing the early february "ukraine and NATO are lying about russia wanting to invade, they good boys who dindu nuffin" vintage?

Within the context of the media that has parroted those lies it only gets worse since to many that fall within the "these people" demographic the media is a lying propaganda apparatus by default.
Ah the "media bad so imma play defence for whomever it targets" mindset which wound up launching the grifting careers of Sargon, Milo, Ralph, and a thousand other grifting retards and degenerates

Finally, I'd argue that "these people" tend to be nationalists...
....supporting an explicitly anti-nationalist invasion aimed at purging an independent country of pwobwematic nazis and biguts and nationalists, and subsuming them into an insanely corrupt and degenerate multi ethnic superstate

...who don't appreciate globalism and the international aid/defense of Ukraine is very much led by the main globalist figures "these people" have come to hate.
Last I checked these same globalist figures and outlets and groups and whatnot also like hitching themselves to causes like "increase third world sanitation" and "stop the AIDs pandemic" so naturally I trust these same rugged anti-globalists will be pozzing themselves at their local bathhouse and embracing the pajeet street shitting lifestyle in order to own george soros and the WEF or whatever

Their agnosticism or even disdain for Ukraine shouldn't be a surprise at all.
No its not surprising, but only because these are the same people who, as mentioned before, would be performing dedicated annilingus on their local media globalist if they thought it would go down well on whichever 2edgy2you hole they inhabit
 
Within the context of the media that has parroted those lies it only gets worse since to many that fall within the "these people" demographic the media is a lying propaganda apparatus by default.
Except Pravda, RiaNovosti, Russian TV in general and your favorite Telegram autiZts right? That kind of media must be pure as an angel's tear considering how much you people really, REALLY fucking love to parrot everything those outlets say like it's the word of god.

Move to fucking russia if it's so pure and free of bullshit, truly a force fighting for the betterment of all it's subjects even if it means getting them killed way faster than western societal rot ever could.
 
Except Pravda, RiaNovosti, Russian TV in general and your favorite Telegram autiZts right? That kind of media must be pure as an angel's tear considering how much you people really, REALLY fucking love to parrot everything those outlets say like it's the word of god.

Move to fucking russia if it's so pure and free of bullshit, truly a force fighting for the betterment of all it's subjects even if it means getting them killed way faster than western societal rot ever could.
Just saying, you're replying to stuff I never said. As is tradition in this thread.
 
Just saying, you're replying to stuff I never said. As is tradition in this thread.
And I'm just saying that just about every single thing russiaboos say might as well be direct translation of russian state TV, their hatred of the west hilariously turns into worship of shit stains on the world map that are way worse and all their interest in this war boils down to the retarded western "culture war" where one side is totally in the wrong, superbad and supercorrupt just because it's supported by the west and the other is absolved of all sins, past, present and future, because it's fighting the trannygays by blowing up innocent people and turning cities, supposedly full of people waiting to be liberated, into fucking craters.

The Special Military Operation ™️ in Ukraine was never just "Ukraine is being invaded and defending itself!" It shouldn't be a surprise when "these same people" that you mention aren't eager to be expected to care or support a country that isn't even an ally of their own.
It was just that at one point, back then all "those people" were creaming themselves with how hard russians are going to show the west who's boss in what will surely be known as "3 days of total pwnage", wholeheartedly sucking russian cock and quoting russian bullshit long before Ukraine got a single piece of worthwhile support from the globohomo empire so they are very eager to care about some slav country that isn't their ally at all.
 
I didn't realize it was built in Sevastopol. Still hard for ship to sink in a sea it hasn't seen in 30 years, retard.

It was built in Mykolayev, largest ship building place in USSR. It built most of the Soviet fleet since it has a deep warm port and close to very large (at one time largest) steel factories in Mariupol and Krivi Rig. Mykolayev has a lot of high and other ed establishments to support both ship building and training of sailors, both sea/ocean and river fleets. It was also "closed city" during USSR time, where no foreigner allowed to travel due to sensitive nature of a lot of places there, i.e. strategic.

Sevastopol is just a base, but it's a shitty location to build ships.

Don't be fooled by the size of the Black Sea. It's very deep and during the winter, storms really suck. It's plastered with shipwrecks. Greeks called it the angry sea.
 
I didn't realize it was built in Sevastopol. Still hard for ship to sink in a sea it hasn't seen in 30 years, retard.
I think counting, geography or precision of expression is not your strong suit. You sound upset but I am amused. The shipyards are in Mykolaiv or Nikolayev, to use the Russian name. You obscurely referred to some form of lost capacity. The carrier has crossed and recrossed the Med repeatedly and exercised with the Black Sea fleet. It very likely was in the Black Sea in 2011 (which will only be 30 years in twenty years time) when it exercised with the Black Sea Fleet and / or East Med, matters little.



Right now, as I am writing this address, the air alert is over almost the entire territory of our state. There is preliminary information about strikes - Dnipro, Kremenchuk, Kyiv region. The occupiers realize that we are gradually becoming stronger, and the goal of their terror is very simple – to put pressure on you and me, on our society, to intimidate people, to cause as much as possible damage to Ukrainian cities, while Russian terrorists are still able to do it.
So I'm begging you, once again: please don't ignore the air alert signals now. Appropriate rules of conduct must be followed at all times, especially at public objects. Of course, we will come to the day when Russian terror will become impossible. But it still needs time. We still have to fight. And we will fight.
Zelenskiy Telegram channel via UA Now
Just saying, you're replying to stuff I never said. As is tradition in this thread.
Aidan you have Irish name, so to carry water for a terrorist entity that threatened in a meme, science fiction way to drown your homeland, along with nuking half Europe and the East US seaboard, seems unusual. Zelenskiy has not, threatened the murder of innocent millions and it trying to lead the defence of his country, in face of terrorist attacks with Kalibr rockets all throughout Ukraine, even Lviv. That puts him on whole other moral plane over the effete kisser of little boys' belly buttons.
 
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It very likely was in the Black Sea in 2011 (which will only be 30 years in twenty years time) when it exercised with the Black Sea Fleet and / or East Med, matters little.
The Med is not the Black Sea and 92-22 is 30 years.
2011-12 Mediterranean deployment
The Russian Main Navy Staff announced that the Kuznetsov will begin a deployment to the Atlantic and Mediterranean in the early days of December. The carrier will be escorted by the large ASW ship Admiral Chabanenko. In late November 2011, Pravda and Reuters announced that a squardon led by the Admiral Kuznetsov will deploy to its naval base in Tartus as a show of support for the al-Assad regime. However, in contradiction a Russian naval spokesman stated to the Izvestia daily that "The call of the Russian ships in Tartus should not be seen as a gesture towards what is going on in Syria," and "This was planned already in 2010 when there were no such events there. There has been active preparation and there is no need to cancel this," noting that the Admiral Kuznetsov would also be making port calls in Beirut, Genoa and Cyprus.

On 29 November 2011, Army General Nikolay Makarov, Chief of the Russian General Staff, said that sending ships of the Russian Navy to the Mediterranean Sea is linked to exercises and not to the situation in Syria. "In the event of necessity, namely to carry out repairs, to take water and food on board and to allow rest for the crews, Russian ships may visit Tartus but in this case this has not been included in the plan of the trip," the Interfax source said. He also noted that the size of Admiral Kuznetsov does not allow it to moor in Tartus because the port does not have suitable infrastructure, i.e. large enough mooring.

On 6 December 2011, the Admiral Kuznetsov and escorting ships departed its Northern Fleet homebase for a several month Mediterranean deployment. During the deployment Kuznetsov will also exercise with ships from the Russian Baltic and Black Sea Fleets.

On 12 December 2011 the Admiral Kuznetsov with its carrier group, has been spotted northeast of the Orkneys off the coast of northern Scotland from where it has been shadowed by HMS York for a week. This was the first time the carrier had deployed near the UK; due to severe weather, the group took shelter in international waters in the Moray Firth, some 30 miles from the UK coast. The Kuznetsov then sailed around the top of Scotland and into the Atlantic past western Ireland, where it conducted flying operations with her Sukhoi Su-33 Flanker jets and Kamov Ka-27 helicopters in international airspace.

On 8 January 2012, the Admiral Kuznetsov anchored near shore outside of Tartus while other ships in its escort entered the port to use the leased Russian naval support facility. After replenishing supplies, all of the ships will continue their Mediterranean deployment on 9 January.

On 17 February 2012, the Admiral Kuznetsov returned to its homebase of Severomorsk.
 
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