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How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%

  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%
  • Total voters
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DNR fighters protesting agianst being used as a cannon fodder, also don't want to fight for LNR


Destroyed T-62, supposedly from recent clashes in Ukraine
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White_N said:
Here is the shelling of Tskhinvali.
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Yeah, and South Ossetian forces placed their military within the civilian buildings, making them military targets.
The exact same situation seen with Russian forces attacking "civilian" buildings with ammo dumps and military vehicles inside.
potato fan said:
Destroyed T-62, supposedly from recent clashes in Ukraine
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For fuck's sake, already?
 
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Rumply4Skyn said:
China isn’t doing too well themselves. They are increasingly isolated in their region and have been basically subjugating third-world countries through Belt and Road Initiative. They have India that is polishing knives while watching them, even recently having their soldiers brawl with pipes and chains in a fucking river over a land dispute. Taiwan is huddled in their bunker waiting for them to assault. Small nearby island nations have been getting bullied over fishing rights in the China Sea — so far that the chinks have built artificial islands with military bases. Japan and S. Korea are terrified of their retarded cousin to the north, all the while China lets the dirty hermit kingdom threaten everyone with nukes.

Internally, their economic numbers are questionable, as they are being fudged by fearful officials. Their currency is being kept low for strength against the dollar but it’s becoming transparent that they are manipulating it. Ohhh and they recently had to purge some uppity party officials who didn’t like the current regime, but don’t worry recently leaked intel suggests they will invade Taiwan to get those popularity numbers up!

China doesn’t factor into this equation. Ukraine is a mix of ‘Don’t attack sovereign countries’ and ‘Who the fuck do you think you are? Waving nukes at us?!’

Internal US politics have contributed far more to them being involved than concerns about China. US is about to have midterms and Democrats have cried about Trump being in cahoots with Russia — and then this happens. Anyone surprised they are suddenly waving Gay Pride flag with Ukrainian colors?
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One of most :story: thing about China was from recent QA session with expert on China.

Q: Does China lie about it's economic growth?
A: To lie means intentionally misinform somebody. That might not be the case. What happens is that officials on a community level "correct" statistics, then those statistics are "corrected" on prefecture level and then on a central level. Central government have problems with interpreting their statistics as well. One of minister announced that they will start to look at hard data from electricity used, train traffic etc to determine real economic growth. Then prefectures started shining street lights in day, keeping their AC on weekend, moving trains full of wares without any needs just to buff up statistics. This illustrates well how much China themself have this problem.

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Wy4M said:
It seems that an LPR commander was KIA:
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Also 2 Ukrainian commanders got KIA:
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Lieutenant Colonel Maxim Grebennik, battalion commander of the 24th mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is also claimed KIA today.

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High rankers in modern wars drop like flies when you aren't just fighting insurgents, apparently. Either that or both sides are terrible at keeping them even mildly safe. But in the case of Roman, I do understand that separatists are more likely to want to closely monitor their troops, due to having unprofessional armies and all.

It wouldn't be the first time one of them gets way too close to the fighting, Mikhail Kyshchyk aka "Misha Chechen", was surrounded and fought to the last during the battle of Kreminna.

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Wy4M said:
French mercenary Wilfrid Bleriot got killed in Ukraine on the 1st (or 2nd) of June:
"French Heroe Wilfried Bleriot (33 y.o.).
Proud French WSMDivision member, French Legioner, man who fought bolshevism/afa all his life, great man, our friend and brother-in-arms died (01.06.2022) defending Europe/Ukraine from asiatic hordes. He died as a man with Ak in his hands from Russiam artillery in Kharkiv region.
Merci frere, for your help, Your live will be revenged.
Heil Vicrory, Glory to the Heroes, See you Walhalle, frere!"
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>hmmm yes I will fight white Russians for NATO while Blacks and Arabs flood into my country and rape and kill French people.
Rest in piss Zogbot goycattle, you will not be missed. I'm sure you'll have fun with the demons you pretended to worship though!
 
Colonels and above getting killed a lot means two things, one good and one bad

Good thing: officers leading in combat raises morale, their men fight harder. An officer who says follow me has his men follow him to the hilt. An officer who says attack when he's 15 miles behind the line gets a half hearted effort

Bad thing: lieutenants, captains, majors, LTCs aren't getting the job done so the full colonels and brigadiers and major generals have to be at the front or shit doesn't get done

For both sides it's probably a combination of both here
 
Willie Thrills said:
It does not bode well for anyone that foreign legionnaires are trying to fight in the East like that.

That is the Ukrainian Armed Forces using foreign fighters in a disputed region - the Brits, as stupid as they were with Northern Ireland, went through great effort to avoid that image, sending Scots (since posh Englanders seem to think Scotland and Ireland are similar) and local (Protestant) soldiers.

Ukraine is pushing for a domestic race war.
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There was a lot of Irish immigration to Scotland, and given that they're both celtic they are culturally more similar to one another than the English are to them. Additionally, I expect it was a prejudice thing. Even if Scots werent more similar to the Irish, they simply aren't English, which is a good look for them.
 
St.Davis said:
There was a lot of Irish immigration to Scotland, and given that they're both celtic they are culturally more similar to one another than the English are to them. Additionally, I expect it was a prejudice thing. Even if Scots werent more similar to the Irish, they simply aren't English, which is a good look for them.
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Culturally, South Slavs have a lot in common with eachother, too.
 
draggs said:
Colonels and above getting killed a lot means two things, one good and one bad

Good thing: officers leading in combat raises morale, their men fight harder. An officer who says follow me has his men follow him to the hilt. An officer who says attack when he's 15 miles behind the line gets a half hearted effort

Bad thing: lieutenants, captains, majors, LTCs aren't getting the job done so the full colonels and brigadiers and major generals have to be at the front or shit doesn't get done

For both sides it's probably a combination of both here
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Russian Army does not give lower officers any flexibility with orders and it's very top heavy, Ukrainian army is probably exactly the same. Generals are closer to the front and do a lot more management, also Russia has like 11,000 generals. These are why so many higher officers seem to die on both sides.
 
Willie Thrills said:
Culturally, South Slavs have a lot in common with eachother, too.
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No, everyone else in the Balkans is a subhuman Turk or Gypsy and also brown. My country are full of 200 cm Aryan Illyrian/Thracian/Dacian chads undiluted by any foreign admixture. We're also chosen by God himself to lead everyone else, and the only true Christians left in the entire world.
 
St.Davis said:
Probably, yeah. I don't dispute the idea that the Ukies are being retarded in using foreign fighters like this.
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Not retarded - outright evil. That is not the Ukrainian government - they've clearly delegated that role to foreigners, and the Ukrainians themselves, even if by some miracle, will be servants of that state, not representing it. They are just a system of bureaucrats to enforce foreign affairs via a state-like entity.
 
Gay_nig_from_outer_space said:
Russian Army does not give lower officers any flexibility with orders and it's very top heavy, Ukrainian army is probably exactly the same. Generals are closer to the front and do a lot more management, also Russia has like 11,000 generals. These are why so many higher officers seem to die on both sides.
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Because of this, I wonder if it's not dishonest for people to point to Ukie or Russian Generals being merked and saying that it's as big a deal as is said.

Is a Russian General "worth" as much to the Russian Army as an American General might be to the USA?
 
St.Davis said:
Because of this, I wonder if it's not dishonest for people to point to Ukie or Russian Generals being merked and saying that it's as big a deal as is said.

Is a Russian General "worth" as much to the Russian Army as an American General might be to the USA?
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It is and to both armies a General isn't worth nearly as much.
 
St.Davis said:
Because of this, I wonder if it's not dishonest for people to point to Ukie or Russian Generals being merked and saying that it's as big a deal as is said.

Is a Russian General "worth" as much to the Russian Army as an American General might be to the USA?
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Have you seen our generals lately? A grunt would make better calls.
 
St.Davis said:
Because of this, I wonder if it's not dishonest for people to point to Ukie or Russian Generals being merked and saying that it's as big a deal as is said.

Is a Russian General "worth" as much to the Russian Army as an American General might be to the USA?
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Somewhat but not worth as much. Russia has a lot more officers than the US (or all NATO countries for that matter). Russia still has a very top heavy command structure, meaning NCOs and junior officers are expected to be much more "by the book" and following the tactical plan as opposed to being given a general list of objectives and told "Figure out how to accomplish them while you're in the field."

Ukraine pre-2014 had the same issue and getting a strong NCO and junior officer corps was one of the major parts of their military modernization efforts for the past 8 years.
 
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