Crime Andrew Tate and his brother had their mansion raided by Romanian authorities on charges related to abduction and human trafficking - Manosphere taking a L again

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EXCLUSIVE / The incredible story of millionaires Tristan and Andrew Tate, involved in human trafficking and rape / Father - world chess champion, sister - lawyer at a US giant, they ...​


By Narcis Voica .
Posted on 12.04.2022 at 23:40 Updated on 12.04.2022 at 23:40

Millionaires Tristan and Andrew Tate, who are suspected of human trafficking and rape, come from a respected family in both the United Kingdom and the United States.

  • Tristan and Andrew Tate have an incredible life story
  • Their father, who died in 2015, was a world chess champion, and their mother is involved in charity
  • Their younger sister worked for a law firm in the United States, and is currently a legal adviser to a company that owns thousands of fast-food restaurants around the world.

The names of the two businessmen accused of serious acts appear in an article published in a magazine dedicated to chess lovers in 2015, in memory of their father, shortly after his death.
The article mentions that the late US chess player was married to Britain's Eileen Tate, and the marriage resulted in three children: Andrew, Tristan and Janine.

According to official documents, the widow Eileen currently lives in England, while the youngest of the family, Janine, lives in the USA, where she got married. The younger sister of the DIICOT suspects worked at a famous law firm until the end of last year, when she was hired by a giant company that owns thousands of fast-food restaurants around the world.While their father is considered one of America's greatest chess players, their mother attends charity events, and their younger sister is an expert in law, Andrew and Tristan make millions of dollars from video chat studios. On Monday evening, the two were visited by police and prosecutors, and according to DIICOT they are involved in a case of human trafficking and rape.

Yesterday, DIICOT specified that the case was opened in rem, ie it concerns the deed, not some people.
"On 11.04.2022, the Prosecutor's Office attached to the Buftea Court ordered the decline in favor of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism - Central Structure in a case in which investigations were carried out under the aspect of committing the crime of deprivation of liberty illegal. On 11.04.2022, the prosecutors of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism Crimes - Central Structure ordered the extension of the criminal investigation under the aspect of committing the crimes of human trafficking and rape.
In the case, the Prosecutor's Office attached to the Buftea Court conducted home searches of two buildings in Ilfov County, and goods of interest were seized to solve the case. The prosecutors of the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism Crimes - Central Structure heard during the night of 11 / 12.04.2022 several witnesses in order to clarify the factual situation.
The investigations are being continued by the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism - Central Structure with the support of BCCO Bucharest, the criminal investigation being carried out in rem. We specify that during the entire criminal trial, the investigated persons benefit from the procedural rights and guarantees provided by the Code of Criminal Procedure, as well as by the presumption of innocence ", The investigations are being continued by the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism - Central Structure with the support of BCCO Bucharest, the criminal investigation being carried out in rem.
We specify that during the entire criminal trial, the investigated persons benefit from the procedural rights and guarantees provided by the Code of Criminal Procedure, as well as by the presumption of innocence ", The investigations are being continued by the Directorate for the Investigation of Organized Crime and Terrorism - Central Structure with the support of BCCO Bucharest, the criminal investigation being carried out in rem. We specify that during the entire criminal trial, the investigated persons benefit from the procedural rights and guarantees provided by the Code of Criminal Procedure, as well as by the presumption of innocence ",
said, yesterday, DIICOT.

On Monday evening, Romanian police sources revealed that the investigation was launched after a young woman from the USA claimed that she had been abducted by the Tate brothers. During the raids, the police discovered another young woman from Romania, who, in turn, claimed that she was forcibly kept in the house of the Tate brothers.
"On 11.04.2022, IPJ Ilfov was notified by telephone by a representative of the Office of Diplomatic Security at the US Embassy in Bucharest, regarding the fact that, at the level of this institution, information was received according to which, in a building located on Washington Street, in the city of Voluntari, called EAG, 21 years old, American citizen, is illegally deprived of liberty. He later contacted the Diplomatic Security Bureau, and after obtaining additional information, the police forces within the Voluntari City Police notified ex officio the commission of the crime of illegal deprivation of liberty. Following the latest police checks, it has been established that the EAG may be located in a building on Washington Street. from the town of Voluntari, belonging to brothers Tristan and Andrew Tate (British citizens). The police obtained two search warrants, through the Prosecutor's Office attached to the Buftea Court, from the court (Buftea Court), on deprivation of liberty. The mandates are executed by IPJ Ilfov. So far, two victims have been found, including one reported by the US Embassy (US). sources from the Romanian Police specified on Monday evening.
 
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(Article posted is a Google translate of a Romanian article, haven't seen sources in English pop up yet.)

Already posted a bit in the Cernovich thread, if you follow the Manosphere/Right-Wing griftosphere overlap this guy pops up every so often. He's adjacent to a lot of the people who have threads here like Cernovich, Paul Joseph Watson, Vox Day and similar "red-pilled" characters.
But apparently this time stepped in a steaming one because his brother flew out an American chick to Romania who managed to contact her bf who promptly got in touch with the American embassy.

And here's an interesting Twitter thread w a video where an ex-staffer of Sargon of Akkad talks about Tate:
Post with video
Also:
Archived /pol/ thread about the arrest
 
So if my Romenglish is correct and 4chan is right:
> Launder money for Romanian mafia, be rich (for Romania).
> Bring woman over from America
> Woman tells American BF she is being held hostage and gives street address.
> US Embassy called, calls Romanian police.
> Address checks out and victim found. Sounds like maybe illegal weapons too.

Other important detail: his Bugatti is apparently the most expensive car in Romania. Since he and his brother are in custody a lot of Romanons are speculating it is unattended. My personal bet is that it is wrapped around a tree by gypsies or loaded in an intermodal container before these guys see a judge.
 
So if my Romenglish is correct and 4chan is right:
> Launder money for Romanian mafia, be rich (for Romania).
> Bring woman over from America
> Woman tells American BF she is being held hostage and gives street address.
> US Embassy called, calls Romanian police.
> Address checks out and victim found. Sounds like maybe illegal weapons too.

Other important detail: his Bugatti is apparently the most expensive car in Romania. Since he and his brother are in custody a lot of Romanons are speculating it is unattended. My personal bet is that it is wrapped around a tree by gypsies or loaded in an intermodal container before these guys see a judge.
Why does Romania have so many Gypsies, anyway?
 
Not surprising. I had a laugh when he went on an anime kick and started posting photos of himself with anime girls shopped in, saying he was taking all the waifus for himself, funny shit. Him also being a champion kick boxer also pretty fucking stellar.

Then his ego started to show, and all he'd do is talk about how cool he is, and offer his "War Room" how to be a man scheme. Well, no shock here; even if he lands behind bars, I'll expect him to have an illegal cellphone, which he'll use to brag he's the king of the prison.
 
Why does Romania have so many Gypsies, anyway?
The Romani in Romania may of originally come from the Byzantine Empire in the Middle Ages. They are said to of fled the Ottoman expansion and went into what would be modern day Romania. For a long time they were slaves but they were eventually emancipated and have just sort of existed in the country since then.
 
Not surprising. I had a laugh when he went on an anime kick and started posting photos of himself with anime girls shopped in, saying he was taking all the waifus for himself, funny shit. Him also being a champion kick boxer also pretty fucking stellar.

Then his ego started to show, and all he'd do is talk about how cool he is, and offer his "War Room" how to be a man scheme. Well, no shock here; even if he lands behind bars, I'll expect him to have an illegal cellphone, which he'll use to brag he's the king of the prison.
The anime thing was how I first heard of him, watched their videos for a year or so and thought he was funny. I always had the impression that in spite of the shady web cam and casino stuff, they were playing up their characters for the camera and were lowkey a little dorky and wholesome--You'd see them break sometimes and they each seemed to have a "real" longterm girlfriend they actually cared about. Also stopped watching when the War Room became a more serious focus and I started to second guess how much of the ego was a tongue in cheek facade. It all began to feel a bit gross and depressing.

I'm skeptical of the rape/held against her will accusations. I think they take advantage of women, either targeting financially desperate or emotionally vulnerable young ones, but I'd be surprised if they're actually doing anything illegal there, just girls and their parents upset about a scummy situation, legal pimping. I wouldn't be surprised though if they did other dumb shit and the police find something else to get them on during the raid like illegal weapons or racketeering.
 
I'm commenting solely to mention this:
  • Their younger sister worked for a law firm in the United States, and is currently a legal adviser to a company that owns thousands of fast-food restaurants around the world.
So, she's a regular ass lawyer. This is like rich people's version of putting "handled monetary transactions for a multimillion dollar corporation" under McDonald's Employee on their resume. Not sure why this article needed to be prefaced with three paragraphs of fluff about their stunning and brave royal heritage either. Very gay.
 
Wasn't he fucking Jordan Peterson's daughter while she was still married?
PUA? Manosphere? -He's just a former kickboxer and a pimp (seems like).
 
Wasn't he fucking Jordan Peterson's daughter while she was still married?
PUA? Manosphere? -He's just a former kickboxer and a pimp (seems like).
Yes, and it wasn't just a "fucking her while married." He mover her in, with his harem. So she wasn't even getting an exclusivity deal. In a weird way he proved a manosphere point; women are children and will jump for excitement and other shit over safety, even at their own expense.
 
I wouldn't be surprised though if they did other dumb shit and the police find something else to get them on during the raid like illegal weapons or racketeering.
In Romania? Surely everything purchased was legal, above-board, and has easily-verified receipts.
My personal bet is that it is wrapped around a tree by gypsies or loaded in an intermodal container before these guys see a judge.
Why not both? First wrapped around a tree, and then parted out and shipped elsewhere.
 
PUA? Manosphere? -He's just a former kickboxer and a pimp (seems like).
Nah, he's well connected to the red pill griftosphere.
Also his "Hustle University" and "War Room" thing are textbook manosphere fleecing operations where lost men get baited into paying money up front to access a glorified Telegram channel. The "hustling" is shit like copywriting or dropshipping fake adderall from China. Or you're supposed to buy stocks and crypto (from affiliated brokers) according to "tips" they drop from other paid-membership trading groups.

For example:
>getting trading advice from the Tate Brothers
On top of that during March the trader
signals have made 15 consecutive losing trades. The statistical probability of that is around
0.000001%. A professional trader that has worked at a hedge fund and/or investment bank
would never be able to accomplish that poor of a result. Further debunking their claim of a
million dollar trader.
 
I didn't know he is also running a forex scam. There is a good reason why most forex companies are registered in Cyprus, Malta and UAE, but they actually work from countries like Croatia, Romania and Bulgaria (and if not even worse countries). CySEC is a fucking joke.

Also his "Hustle University" and "War Room" thing are textbook manosphere fleecing operations where lost men get baited into paying money up front to access a glorified Telegram channel. The "hustling" is shit like copywriting or dropshipping fake adderall from China.
He really was making Cuck Murphy to run for his money.
 
Not surprising. I had a laugh when he went on an anime kick and started posting photos of himself with anime girls shopped in, saying he was taking all the waifus for himself, funny shit. Him also being a champion kick boxer also pretty fucking stellar.

Then his ego started to show, and all he'd do is talk about how cool he is, and offer his "War Room" how to be a man scheme. Well, no shock here; even if he lands behind bars, I'll expect him to have an illegal cellphone, which he'll use to brag he's the king of the prison.
look up his father too, its crazy to think if he existed/died a decade ago we'd have a movie about how badass he was. a half-black chess grandmaster, master of 4 languages, champion kickboxer, ladies man. Andrew Tate is like the real life version of a Netflix adaption of Doc Savage. especially because he's going to prison like a typical nigger.
Yes, and it wasn't just a "fucking her while married." He mover her in, with his harem. So she wasn't even getting an exclusivity deal. In a weird way he proved a manosphere point; women are children and will jump for excitement and other shit over safety, even at their own expense.
IIRC someone in the redbar sphere "proved" that she was paying him 10K a month to be a part of his harem. so technically you could also put high priced rentboy under his resume. plus who's to say he was only getting paid by her, even if he was 120k goes a long way in eastern europe. also its funny to think the 'cels that paid her father were basically just paying a black man to fuck her.
Nah, he's well connected to the red pill griftosphere.
Also his "Hustle University" and "War Room" thing are textbook manosphere fleecing operations where lost men get baited into paying money up front to access a glorified Telegram channel. The "hustling" is shit like copywriting or dropshipping fake adderall from China. Or you're supposed to buy stocks and crypto (from affiliated brokers) according to "tips" they drop from other paid-membership trading groups.

For example:
>getting trading advice from the Tate Brothers
there is some weird esoteric Parapsychological thing about betting/stock tips. i've seen it enough that even if you are a superstar on a hot streak if you start telling other people some schrödinger's cat bullshit happens where you do supernaturally bad. look at the Mad Money guy, if you were a billionaire when that guy started his show, you'd be literally broke now if you followed his tips, on the flipside, if you did a put for every call he did then you'd be rich.

so technically this guy did call 15 bets correctly, just not the way you'd expect. in fact most of this financial stuff is extremely monkeys paw. if someone says something will happen, chances are it won't.
 
there is some weird esoteric Parapsychological thing about betting/stock tips. i've seen it enough that even if you are a superstar on a hot streak if you start telling other people some schrödinger's cat bullshit happens where you do supernaturally bad. look at the Mad Money guy, if you were a billionaire when that guy started his show, you'd be literally broke now if you followed his tips, on the flipside, if you did a put for every call he did then you'd be rich.

so technically this guy did call 15 bets correctly, just not the way you'd expect. in fact most of this financial stuff is extremely monkeys paw. if someone says something will happen, chances are it won't.
While this is more commonly seen in insurance underwriting/actuarial/risk management fields, this is a pretty obvious example of a Moral Hazard paired with a Perverse Incentive. That's an inherently bad risk combination and it would call for serious premiums and compliance supervision to ever make it worth it. Considering these guys didn't build their reputation on securities trading, to a certain degree their customers are going to be their regardless of the advice quality. Good con-men are always good at painting losses as neutral or simply delaying a win. It's an essential skill. Even if they set out with good intentions, this concentration of market power they influence is valuable. Why spend all day screaming into the autism void of /biz/ if you can pay this guy $10K to pump your stock/crypto/etc for the same outcome? The people running these schemes are always going to have deep enough pockets to make it worthwhile. This is the same thing that happened to the Mad Money guy at micro-scale. Look into who directly funds his program and his network and it's clear he's influenced at some level by entities he discusses.

There is a very small chance you get-in and get-out on the pump before the inevitable dump. There's also innumerable bankruptcies of people who got blinded by dollar signs and got left holding the bag. This is why you have miles of red tape to legally do things like this in the US. It is a systemic flaw that is inherently risky to the customer. The best advice is to only listen to someone that has a fiduciary duty to you. Bare minimum their compensation should be a commission on your realized profits. It's not perfect but it mostly ties you and your advisor's interests together. The easiest way for them to make more money is to make more for you. It also generally puts you in a market dealing with some kind of credentials you can check and lodge complaints against. Nothing stops these mooks from simply shutting things down.
 
Why does Romania have so many Gypsies, anyway?
Because everybody hates gypsies so it's hard for them to go anywhere else and the Romanians are too nice to wipe them out.

EDIT: Oh, doesn't look good for him. One of the webcam whores was Romanian, he should have stuck to worthless American and British trash.
 
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