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Gehenna said:
Something to keep in mind is that the raw number isn't very useful. Because the Republican system is much more efficient it also gets better returns. Generally, Republicans see about a 2-1 or even 3-1 better return on investment than Democrats dollar for dollar.
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I was gonna ask about this.

So really off the wall question about the RNC vs DNC. is it a zero sum game in terms of features like if the RNC had good ground game would that come at the cost of their efficiency? Or is it possible to fashion a best of both worlds?

Similar to how the DNC hates trump even though he really is a 90's democrat, and since the media cannot make good on the "plan" to just unperson him and not speak his power name. Why not play into his populist base, Start invoking his name with the jab, and try to peal away part of his base. with back handed

"well trump for all his faults of which there are many, wasnt wrong to address this issue and we will address it in less borish brash way...etc"

The dysfunction of the biden administration is totally fucking insane.

To sum it up I keep trying to think of a way forward for the DNC, and everything I come to basically says for them to stop what they are doing now, and do the opposite
 
northstar747 said:
So really off the wall question about the RNC vs DNC. is it a zero sum game in terms of features like if the RNC had good ground game would that come at the cost of their efficiency? Or is it possible to fashion a best of both worlds?
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Nope! It is -possible- to do both, but the reason both are the way they are is due to larger structural and philosophical differences as well as stylistic choices that tend to make one or the other more effective. The best instances for either party are when they have someone competent handling their weak side while they go all in on their strength.

It is not a zero-sum game, but it is a form of specialization.
 
I could doom about how the Republicans will lose in Virginia to make you nostalgic, Gehenna
 
AnotherPleb said:
The machines need a lot more financial lube after 2020 made things too obvious, and they don't have that one federal judge to put the ruling in place to fuck GOP poll watchers again.
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There is the fact that they seem to not care about the law and are still operating on the philosophy of "who's going to stop us" which could still throw a wrench into things.
 
its better than the faggy slap fights and drive by shit posting.

I feel sorry ebonic tutor got banned but honestly alot of kiwi need to chill out.
 
Myles the Potatophile said:
Was there a timeline to being bad with funds? I recall hearing once that Obama's 2012 campaign used so much damned money it almost bankrupted the DNC, and the DNC would later go on to bend over backwards for Hilary because the Clinton Foundation (or whatever) would pump funding into it. If that's the case then lol, if not it still sounds plausible with things we've learned.
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No need - I will tell it to you straight, as someone who worked for them: the Establishment Dems have never been good with funds.

Ever.

When I was in the activist pool, a common joke is that if you could make it two tiers up, you were set for life, because everyone I worked with twenty years ago knew some idiot or another who landed a gig canvassing for some mid-level establishment hack, did the same work we were doing on a volunteer basis (half as well) and got paid a hefty salary for it, only to piss it away, and, if anything, that's gotten worse since I left. There was stories during 2016 of people getting paid six-figure salaries for the DNC while never even showing up. There were people who worked for the non-Hillary Dem Candidates that were still getting paid by the DNC long after the primaries were over and they were no longer needed.

On a staff level, they burn cash like crazy, but where it hits ludicrous speed is that throwing cash around in giant amounts is literally their only response to anything.

It's why they perpetually got played by the oldschool Dems at the grassroots level; they can throw money around with legendary faire, dominating airwaves with massive ad buy-ins, fucking enormous campaign promotions, and huge events intended to push turn-out, but that is literally all they can fucking do. And I'm mostly sure they do it because they feel it isn't their cash. Then the funds run dry and they're always flabbergasted when it fucking happens, even though their staff likely told them about it three years or more in advance.
 
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