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Court throws Pennsylvania’s mail-in voting law into doubt​

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HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) — A statewide court declared Friday that Pennsylvania’s expansive two-year-old mail-in voting law is unconstitutional, agreeing with challenges by Republicans who soured on mail-in voting after then-President Donald Trump began baselessly attacking it as rife with fraud in 2020′s campaign.

The decision, by a five-judge Commonwealth Court panel of three Republicans and two Democrats, was deemed to be on hold immediately since Gov. Tom Wolf’s administration swiftly appealed to the state Supreme Court.

Still, the decision throws Pennsylvania’s voting laws into doubt as the presidential battleground state’s voters prepare to elect a new governor and a new U.S. senator in 2022.

Just over 2.5 million people voted under the law’s expansion of mail-in voting in 2020′s presidential election, most of them Democrats, out of 6.9 million total cast.

Wolf’s office said its appeal means the lower court ruling has no immediate effect, and criticized Republicans as trying to kill the law “in the service of the ‘big lie’” of Trump’s baseless election fraud claims.

“We need leaders to support removing more barriers to voting, not trying to silence the people,” Wolf’s office said.

Trump and Republicans quickly lauded the decision.

“Big news out of Pennsylvania, great patriotic spirit is developing at a level that nobody thought possible. Make America Great Again!” Trump said in a statement through his political action committee.

The mail-in voting law has become a hot topic on the campaign trail, with nearly every Republican candidate for governor — including two of three state senators who voted for it — vowing to repeal it.

Even Republicans who avoid repeating Trump’s baseless election fraud claims have perpetuated the idea that Democrats cheated in the 2020 presidential election, routinely distorting the actions of state judges and officials as “unconstitutional” or “illegal” in settling legal disputes and questions over the mail-in voting law.

In Friday’s decision, the three Republican judges agreed with Republican challengers — including 11 Republican lawmakers who actually voted for the law — and ruled that no-excuse mail-in voting is prohibited under the state constitution, until the constitution is changed to allow it.

The two Democrats on the panel dissented. The state Supreme Court — which will hear the appeal — has a 5-2 Democratic majority.

Pennsylvania’s attorney general, Josh Shapiro, a Democrat who is running for governor, said he is confident the state Supreme Court will uphold the mail-in voting law as constitutional.

He criticized the lower court’s opinion as “based on twisted logic and faulty reasoning” and “wrong on the law.”

In 2019, the Republican-controlled Legislature authorized no-excuse mail-in voting for all voters, expanding upon a provision in the state constitution that required the state to provide the option for voters in specific circumstances.

Those circumstances include being out of town on business, illness, physical disability, election-day duties or religious observance.

Every Republican lawmaker, except one, voted for the legislation in a deal with Wolf, a Democrat who had sought the mail-in voting provision. In exchange, Wolf agreed to get rid of the straight-ticket voting ballot option that Republicans had sought as a way to protect their suburban candidates from an anti-Trump wave in 2020′s election.

The Constitution does not explicitly say that the Legislature cannot extend absentee voting to others.

However, Republican challengers say the constitution intended that absentee voting be strictly limited, citing a passage that says voters must live in an election district for at least 60 days where they “shall offer to vote.”

In the opinion, the three Republican judges agreed, saying that passage had been cited in two prior state Supreme Court decisions invalidating laws passed in 1839 and 1923 to expand absentee voting.

The dissenting Democrats say a separate provision of the constitution empowered lawmakers to provide no-excuse mail-in voting. That provision says elections “shall be by ballot or by such other method as may be prescribed by law.”

In addition to baselessly attacking mail-in voting through much of 2020, Trump also later claimed, without evidence, that the election was stolen from him in critical battleground states including Pennsylvania.

In one post-election lawsuit in 2020, Republicans sought to invalidate the mail-in voting law and throw out all ballots cast under it in a bid to overturn Democrat Joe Biden’s victory in Pennsylvania.

The state Supreme Court threw it out, saying the plaintiffs “failed to act with due diligence” in waiting to challenge the law until after Trump lost the election.

The U.S. Supreme Court refused appeals to intervene.
 
No, he just introduced her during the SOTS because she became an inter-state meme during 2021. That clip was literally his closer.
Okay, that is understandable then.

I was going to lose all respect for West Virginia if they voted in an Emotional Support dog and call for it to be glassed along side California.
 
White liberals tend have the luxury to sell their homes and move out easier than other races of libs. So they can safely vote for destructive politicians and get out when things get worse leaving the others to stew in the degeneracy left behind.
I know quite a few fellow blacks that hate what is happening in NY (our governor is insane) and are looking to get out. Most of them don't even vote anymore because nothing is changing or getting worse. Even my parents are talking about leaving the state after living here for 70 years, and the rest of my siblings are only here because they are here.
This is true. I live in Illinois, and currently my parents are trying to figure out how to move out of our current area as there have been mass shootings in malls near our area. Lightfoot, of course, has done jack shit about it, allowing the hood rats to start moving down into suburb areas. People want to move away before some neighborhoods start becoming the hood, as areas around me are starting to fall apart.

These same people will claim Chicago is not that dangerous and that things are overblown, so I am sure Dems will continue to rule the areas.
 
Important issues on voters minds:
1. Inflation / cost of living
2. Economy
3. COVID (distant third)
4. Immigration ( about to take 3rd place)
This should be evidence enough why all the dooming on a potential RvW overturn this year is excessive. All the average voter cares about right now is that they cannot find shit, when they find it they potentially cannot afford it, and the difference between their wages and prices is only getting worse. People will return to sperging over social issues and deciding how to vote based on them - once they're no longer concerned about affording food and a roof over their heads.
 

^Specific Crosstabs / Details for the poll below


NEW: Big Data Poll
2024 Presidential GE
(R) Donald Trump 42% (+6)
(D) Joe Biden 36%


2022 Congressional Ballot
Republicans 45% (+7)
Democrats 38%

President Biden Approval
Approve 38.5%
Disapprove 58.6%
Nearly identical to the Civiqs numbers I use for trendline comparison.
 
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31.8% Approve of putting US Troops on the ground and in combat in the Ukraine...
53.3% Disapprove
14.9% Unsure / No Opinion

in the 18-29 demographic it's

41.8% Approve
41.2% Disapprove
17.1% Unsure / No Opinion

Who are these approvers lol? DNCnpcs and Neocons? Lol at the 18-29 crowd, come on........
 
The glowies are already lurking here. RiP SIG. He glowed too brightly, and too ominously.
A&N are an oppressed minority at this point.

They take our stickers and then lock the thread because of a "technicality" (that we know is BS)

oh Im sorry, I thought this was Kiwi Farms
Tbh if he does genuinely hate us it's no wonder considering this sub board probably makes the entire site glow harder than southwest Boston in fallout 4
 
Willow would unironically do a better job than Joe. Lots of towns have animal mayors!

Godspeed, kitty. Try not to get molested.
 
Tbh if he does genuinely hate us it's no wonder considering this sub board probably makes the entire site glow harder than southwest Boston in fallout 4
The big man's only real rationale for not nuking the entirety of Autistic Thunderdome (hell of a name, btw) is containment. Just imagine if this place's background-level retardation were to seep into the rest of the forums.
 
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