US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Jeremiah the Bullfrog]

Doctors and lawyers do complain about it sometimes. Even the ones that got theirs paid off quickly. The cost of education is extortionate, after all. They just have more to do than to be on reddit bitching about it all day, so you usually only see it when you ask them about it.

It's funny how the cost of education ballooned once loans became pretty much guaranteed, much like healthcare premiums shot up when health insurance became mandatory. What a coinky-dink, that one. It's almost as if guaranteeing income results in price increases because the entities involved have found a money teat they can suck dry.

It’s gotten to the point that schools actually are trying to find new ways to burn the money. I went to engineering school out in West Texas. We had a football team and some amphitheater’s but it wasn’t particularly luxurious.

While I was there, the University leadership declared that they were going to become a tier 1 school (whatever that means) and started beautifying the campus. Here’s a random clock tower out behind this dorm that’s off the beaten path. Let’s turn the aging football stadium into a massive coliseum. Etc etc

At the time I remember thinking this is just going to drive up the cost of admission and does nothing to better the education I’m receiving.

Fast forward 20 years (damn I feel old typing that) and all of a sudden they have indoor training facilities for the athletic teams. The workout facility has been upgraded so much that they ran out of things to add, so they just said fuck it and built a lazy river in it... for reasons I can’t discern.

No wonder tuition has spiked to the level it has.

 

[The Ugly One]

Mine are all paid off because I was able to limit how much I took out, but I definitely know ones who do.

Mine are paid off, but a friend is six figures in debt in part because she didn't realize that the "income-based repayment plan" is not actually a repayment plan. A lot of people don't even realize that "student aid" means "loans" until they're getting bills in the mail.

It’s gotten to the point that schools actually are trying to find new ways to burn the money. I went to engineering school out in West Texas. We had a football team and some amphitheater’s but it wasn’t particularly luxurious.

While I was there, the University leadership declared that they were going to become a tier 1 school (whatever that means) and started beautifying the campus. Here’s a random clock tower out behind this dorm that’s off the beaten path. Let’s turn the aging football stadium into a massive coliseum. Etc etc

At the time I remember thinking this is just going to drive up the cost of admission and does nothing to better the education I’m receiving.

Fast forward 20 years (damn I feel old typing that) and all of a sudden they have indoor training facilities for the athletic teams. The workout facility has been upgraded so much that they ran out of things to add, so they just said fuck it and built a lazy river in it... for reasons I can’t discern.

No wonder tuition has spiked to the level it has.

There is a court case from the 1990s that drives a lot of this. The IRS came for MIT's endowment. MIT argued in court that it is actually a charity, since the endowment is used to provide financial aid to students. Now, taxing the endowment wouldn't just hurt the school; it would also hurt the fund managers who receive a commission based on the size of the endowment. Anyway, the court came up with a formula that basically boils down to this: The majority of your students must be unable to afford tuition without aid based on their FAFSA, and receive some aid from the endowment, in order for a school to qualify as a charity and therefore for contributions to its endowment to be tax-deductible.

What this means, in practice, is that if your tuition isn't high enough, you lose your charitable status, and the IRS rapes your endowment to death. Schools now use a formula to plan their tuition increases in order to keep pace with FAFSA scores so that their endowments stay tax-deductible. And, of course, they've got to spend that money on the school; they can't just give it back to the students. Then they wouldn't be a charity.

 

[Gehenna]

And now to find out if the GOP will make it a fight. A few paths going from this, and the first thing to determine it will be whoever Biden puts up after Breyer actually leaves. We'll likely find out around June or July, when the current session of SCOTUS ends giving 4-5 months for them to do anything.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Remember when so much as showing a military uniform got a visceral reaction of disgust from liberals?

Remember when they preached, for 60 fucking years, that there was never a good reason for violence, the violence never solved anything, and there was never a justified war?

Yeah.

Now the mask is off.

"The only justifiable violence is our violence."

It was weird to see that the anitwar candidate who unironically was antiwar by modern ZOG standards was from the GOP compared to the stereotype of the pussy ass bleeding heart ridden Democrat Party.

 

[Garm]

I don't even fully get -why- the Admin is gunning for war. Even a basic analysis says that doing so will utterly nuke any remaining chance of keeping the Whitehouse. Yah, it will likely solidify their base beneath them... but that's not even above 30% of the vote, 35% max assuming the -best- media blitz possible.

But it will lionize the Right and Independents find the idea abhorrent. It would rend off massive chunks of the necessary vote.

Is there anything else going on that they would want us distracted from?

Otherwise, I would say incompetence and a dying system.

Or we're at that 1984 stage where 3 world powers fight over territory back and forth without resolution.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

That'd be glorious to watch. Admittedly. I doubt it, but it'd be glorious.

I doubt it as well, but I'm wondering how much lower-rank ass covering is going on. If the internal structure of the party is all these little fiefdoms stacked atop of each other, and the bottom ones bore the brunt of a potential steal, would they be particularly keen to admit a weak position to leadership? With incapable political advisors, yes men and political placements in the cabinet like Buttigieg, what are the odds that they are significantly misunderstanding their own position, and genuinely believe themselves stronger than they are.

It would explain some of their hail mary moves of "why would you even try" - by their assessments and books, they might believe its a much stronger position, and be blinded by their own cloud of bullshit.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Right wingers preach that all degrees are useless and "MUHH TRAAADDF3EEESS!!!" while left wingers act like you are only smart if you have an MA in intersectional galactic basket weaving.

None of this is true, but all of it is annoying. Reality isn't black and white.

One of my relatives still has student debt because she lost her job (it closed) during a time when her degree was incredibly oversaturated, so she struggled to find a new one - when she got it, it was in demand. Fields fluctuate. "If your degree was worth something you wouldn't have debt" sounds like a really retarded strawman or fallacy.

The realistic reason... she's a woman with kids, and had too good a resume. Basically sucked the air out of the room for good attacks.

Didn't stop them from literally changing the definition of a word in the dictionary to make her seem like a homiphobic gay-stoning Christcuck.

 

[Gehenna]

Didn't stop them from literally changing the definition of a word in the dictionary to make her seem like a homiphobic gay-stoning Christcuck.

It was basically their only option to attempt, and it fizzled out fast. Leaving... really, nothing.

 

[Oats12345]

The utopia is at hand. They’ll make sure of it. View attachment 2925967

Like I said before. I bet it's going to be another SJW twitter activist judge who doesn't like the constitution.

Well, I guess it is official, the psy-op worked.
View attachment 2926012

Still be funny if he changes his mind near the end of the term.

I know they did this so Trump wouldn't get a four judges pick. Still impressive that Trump got to get three judges in his one term. More than Obama and most likely more than Biden as well.

I have to say it's sad that they have to hype up that it's a woman and her skin color rather than her experience.

Would be funny if this SJW activist Judge call's Thomas a "uncle Tom" which pisses off the conservative justices so much. That they never side with the liberal justices again. That would be something.

 

[Random Internet Person]

DO IT, I can't see whatever incompetent She boon they throw in the ring utterly fail at the most basic questions congress puts to her.

If there's one thing Democrats do, it's doing whatever they can to push their ideas and people across the finish line. Whatever it takes.

With the insanity that seems to be mounting, I think we need to start considering the serious possibility that they don't know, or refuse to acknowledge, that they cannot steal it again, and that they genuinely believe they can get away with it. Maybe CNN is spinning tales in their ears about how they can coordinate an even more effective mainstream media suppression of any 3am vote counts.

They can't steal it again, but by god they might be planning to try and do it anyway.

I think they DO know, which is why the HR1 and voting rights and filibuster was a big deal, so every election now can only be played by 2020 rules (the federal ones, at least).

Would be funny if this SJW activist Judge call's Thomas a "uncle Tom" which pisses off the conservative justices so much. That they never side with the liberal justices again. That would be something.

That would require them to be more resolved than flip-floppers from the Bush Administration at the latest.

Like I said before. I bet it's going to be another SJW twitter activist judge who doesn't like the constitution.

Why do you think I mentioned "utopia"?

 

[mold]

It’s gotten to the point that schools actually are trying to find new ways to burn the money. I went to engineering school out in West Texas. We had a football team and some amphitheater’s but it wasn’t particularly luxurious.

While I was there, the University leadership declared that they were going to become a tier 1 school (whatever that means) and started beautifying the campus. Here’s a random clock tower out behind this dorm that’s off the beaten path. Let’s turn the aging football stadium into a massive coliseum. Etc etc

At the time I remember thinking this is just going to drive up the cost of admission and does nothing to better the education I’m receiving.

Fast forward 20 years (damn I feel old typing that) and all of a sudden they have indoor training facilities for the athletic teams. The workout facility has been upgraded so much that they ran out of things to add, so they just said fuck it and built a lazy river in it... for reasons I can’t discern.

No wonder tuition has spiked to the level it has.

now imagine you're at a university like that but for a year you couldn't use all that shit because covid

universities delenda sunt

 

[Oats12345]

If there's one thing Democrats do, it's doing whatever they can to push their ideas and people across the finish line. Whatever it takes.

I think they DO know, which is why the HR1 and voting rights and filibuster was a big deal, so every election now can only be played by 2020 rules (the federal ones, at least).


That would require them to be more resolved than flip-floppers from the Bush Administration at the latest.

Why do you think I mentioned "utopia"?

I always feel bad for Thomas. He get shit on by the media constantly because he's a black conservative justice who legit loves the constitution. When the guy is probably one of the most interesting Justices currently on the Supreme Court.

He's probably going to hate the new Justice pick.

 

[Wingnut]

From childhood, they were told a degree is necessary for any financial success. But because they didn't know what they wanted to do yet they very frequently have picked out of a handful of degrees which are sort of "Generic useful degrees".

School hammered nothing but "go to college" into my head while my family hammered "it's a fucking waste, don't go into debt, it's a scam" my whole life.

I still ended up going, but I stuck around local and didn't take out any debt so even though it was a complete fucking waste, I didn't go on to regret it like every asshole I know who ended up going into debt and getting jobs that paid only a few bucks more than I was making.

Unfortunately, most people don't have the luxury of having fucked up family that distrusts/hates everything like I did, so the public education indoctrination takes hold 100%.

This is what happened to me and what I ended up doing. I was told my entire life growing up that college was the only path to making money, however I wasn't a retard and went through a community college and avoided taking out any loans to pay for my schooling. Fuck paying $15,000+ a year for a degree I can get done at a CC for $4000 total.

 

[TheBest]

I always feel bad for Thomas. He get shit on by the media constantly because he's a black conservative justice who legit loves the constitution. When the guy is probably one of the most interesting Justices currently on the Supreme Court.

He's probably going to hate the new Justice pick.

It’s more of a lesson everyone should follow; that your skin color shouldn't determine or limit what you believe in.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I always feel bad for Thomas. He get shit on by the media constantly because he's a black conservative justice who legit loves the constitution. When the guy is probably one of the most interesting Justices currently on the Supreme Court.

He's probably going to hate the new Justice pick.

It’s more of a lesson everyone should follow; that your skin color shouldn't determine or limit what you believe in.

Sure, why not?

 

[LurkTrawl]

Is there anything else going on that they would want us distracted from?

Otherwise, I would say incompetence and a dying system.

Or we're at that 1984 stage where 3 world powers fight over territory back and forth without resolution.

Well if the admin were to actually kick off WW3 they'd have the good old "we need to keep the country together during this crisis" excuse behind every piece of legislation they try to push which gives cover to RINOs who accept it while everyone else is busy caring about, you know, the war.

 

[Oats12345]

It’s more of a lesson everyone should follow; that your skin color shouldn't determine or limit what you believe in.

Exactly you would think he would be a good role model to young black men but like Ben Carson the media lies and tells black men don't be like them "their sellouts and didn't worshipp Obama".

 

[Meat Target]

This is what happened to me and what I ended up doing. I was told my entire life growing up that college was the only path to making money, however I wasn't a retard and went through a community college and avoided taking out any loans to pay for my schooling. Fuck paying $15,000+ a year for a degree I can get done at a CC for $4000 total.

Same here. Most people choose colleges based on the party scene or sportsball that they don't even play. And most of your undergrad courses will be either reruns of high school or underwater basket weaving gender studies. (I took a "history of baseball" elective and it ended up being 50% about white guilt).

 

[Wingnut]

Same here. Most people choose colleges based on the party scene or sportsball that they don't even play. And most of your undergrad courses will be either reruns of high school or underwater basket weaving gender studies. (I took a "history of baseball" elective and it ended up being 50% about white guilt).

I had a "Progressive Walking" elective that, despite the name sounding like a lefty soapbox class, was just an exercise class that progressively got more challenging over the term.

 

[Josterman]

Should someone tell chip Franklin about Chris cuomo