Sony hate thread

[Marissa Moira]

The whole "Japan is an irrelevant market" is nothing more than a sony fanboy excuse for the sole reason the Playstation brand no longer hold a part of the domestic market like it used to be.

If we're rounding 14 billion out of the 20 billion profits made from gaming are all related to mobile leaving 6 billion to consoles

6 billion is around what numerous euro territories do on average.

This is why companies are going international or they're going full on pachinko and gatcha. I don't see how that's hard to grasp, Japan made their choice they've opted for mobile gaming. They're moving away from consoles in general. They're not moving away from sony because they're still giving Fate Grand order a boat load of money as well as Genshin Impact which Sony has partnership deals with.

That's why I don't buy any of the bullshit narratives about a Japanese grudge against sony. They're still giving them money in some shape or form.

Japan's console market has greatly shrunk from it's heyday while the US's share has signifgantly grown. At this point every major Japanese publisher is now targeting foreign markets and US companies want to bring Japanese games over due to demand which exceeds any demand back home.

I mean I gaet that you want to hate Sony for console warrior reasons because they're not your brand. But you also have to understand that you're really kind of going at it by outdated assumptions.

I mean I know why I like sony and it's because no other company is bothering funding RPGs to such a large extent that they do. Nintendo doesn't do it outside of once in a blue moon, Xbox could do it but they sit on Bethesda and Obsidian instead. That's my personal metric for wanting to buy shit.

 

[BananaSplit]

Japan's console market has greatly shrunk from it's heyday while the US's share has signifgantly grown. At this point every major Japanese publisher is now targeting foreign markets and US companies want to bring Japanese games over due to demand which exceeds any demand back home.

This is why companies are going international or they're going full on pachinko and gatcha. I don't see how that's hard to grasp, Japan made their choice they've opted for mobile gaming. They're moving away from consoles in general.

I mean I know why I like sony and it's because no other company is bothering funding RPGs to such a large extent that they do.

lol those fanfictions

I mean I get that you want to hate Sony for console warrior reasons because they're not your brand. But you also have to understand that you're really kind of going at it by outdated assumptions.

You're completely confused by your own fanboyism and autism. I loved the old Playstation (especially the PSP and Vita that were my favorite systems in the whole past decade), and I bought the Switch because it's much closer to the spirit of the old Playstation, in terms of games, than the current state of Playstation is (which is focusing a lot more on western gaming and triple A).

I don't see Nintendo virtually having a monopoly in the japanese game market as a good thing for the sake of competition but I'll put the blame on the american branch of SIE for individually wrecking up the equilibrium, by doing everything in its power to alienate the japanese.

 

[Marissa Moira]

lol those fanfictions


You're completely confused by your own fanboyism and autism. I loved the old Playstation (especially the PSP and Vita that were my favorite systems in the whole past decade), and I bought the Switch because it's much closer to the spirit of the old Playstation, in terms of games, than the current state of Playstation is (which is focusing a lot more on western gaming and triple A).

I don't see Nintendo virtually having a monopoly in the japanese game market as a good thing for the sake of competition but I'll put the blame on the american branch of SIE for individually wrecking up the equilibrium, by doing everything in its power to alienate the japanese.

I really can't agree that the switch is anything close to like the Original Playstation it's still the typical Nintendo fare that they've offered since the Gamecube era. Like the games for the overwhelming majority are not all that different from what came before when you're talking about their first party titles and even the third party exclusives they've courted don't play like the old playstation games either. Shin megami Tensei 5 is closer to modern persona games on the PS4 than it is to the originals.

Xenoblade is probably the only series they've done that approached a competent RPG, but outside of that nothing even remotely resembles what the older sony systems had to offer. Nintendo's own focus is on western styled games just as much as sony, because that's what Zelda has effectively become(it's note for note a ubisoft styled game with BOTW and they ditched their traditional zelda structure), Metroidvanias are a genre that also been heavily westernized because it's western companies who are the ones who mostly make them for the majority. You're not really dealing with what would be considered the traditional Japanese games when you're talking about their own output. Even Smash brothers is for the majority a western thing.

We're at the point where zelda has this anime styled aesthetic but plays like a western game. Where as God of War has a western realism aesthetic but plays like a Traditional Zelda game.

And I don't think there's been any alienation on anything recent on what Sony did mostly because the US branch took over major aspects during the PS3 era, the PS3 was what effectively caused the long decline of their japanese branch due to poor output. It's what caused Japan Studio to become a support studio since they had poor management for years by that point.

It's been a long running trend because as of current smaller developers like idea Factory and Marvelous are going way more into international markets, Idea factory started at around 2016 to switch over because they instituted policies so their games would sell in the west. Marvelous came later after they were bought out, but after Bandai Namco there remains no major japanese companies for RPGs that are not targeting the west as their primary base. There are a few linging issues like what to do with Aniplex's publishing arm when it comes to anime franchises like fate and future demon slayer games. But overall stuff is not targeting Japan as it's primary audiance due to their preference of mobile games, Dragon Quest 12 being made for western tastes shows that shift.

 

[BananaSplit]

I really can't agree that the switch is anything close to like the Original Playstation it's still the typical Nintendo fare that they've offered since the Gamecube era. Like the games for the overwhelming majority are not all that different from what came before when you're talking about their first party titles and even the third party exclusives they've courted don't play like the old playstation games either.

I was talking about the kind of japanese ecosystem PlayStation cultivated over two decades that ended up migrating over to Nintendo instead. My Switch game library is more alike of an "old" Playstation system than what the PS5 is aiming to be under the rule of SIE's american branch.

Shin megami Tensei 5 is closer to modern persona games on the PS4 than it is to the originals.

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I'm not going to bother with the rest of your post but you wonder why nobody trust you over your claims of "playing video games".

 

[Marissa Moira]

I was talking about the kind of japanese ecosystem PlayStation cultivated over two decades that ended up migrating over to Nintendo instead. My Switch game library is more alike of an "old" Playstation system than what the PS5 is aiming to be under the rule of SIE's american branch.

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I'm not going to bother with the rest of your post but you wonder why nobody trust you over your claims of "playing video games".

SMT 5 took nearly all the modern QoL features made by Persona and integrated them, it's not playing like Noctorne, DDS, Soul Hackers or any of the earlier games. It's definitely more modern persona than it is base SMT. They could have probably ended the stats fuckery because they switched up what everything did again so unless you read you're not going to know what stats are actually not worth your time.

The japanese ecosystem for the switch is roughly the same as it's been in previous generations of Nintendo systems, but it's the international releases are what's going to matter the most.

For example, Playstation 5 has Dragon Quest 10 coming out for it but it's not going to get an international release, so as a collector I'm going to have to import it which is a hurdle to jump through and doesn't have the game as easily accessible as something like Final Fantasy 7R so less people wind up playing it. Japanese only releases also tend to be way more expensive than $70 and that's before factoring in other expenses and charges that can happen after buying it.

 

[ChefKiss]

If we're rounding 14 billion out of the 20 billion profits made from gaming are all related to mobile leaving 6 billion to consoles

6 billion is around what numerous euro territories do on average.

This is why companies are going international or they're going full on pachinko and gatcha. I don't see how that's hard to grasp, Japan made their choice they've opted for mobile gaming. They're moving away from consoles in general. They're not moving away from sony because they're still giving Fate Grand order a boat load of money as well as Genshin Impact which Sony has partnership deals with.

That's why I don't buy any of the bullshit narratives about a Japanese grudge against sony. They're still giving them money in some shape or form.

Japan's console market has greatly shrunk from it's heyday while the US's share has signifgantly grown. At this point every major Japanese publisher is now targeting foreign markets and US companies want to bring Japanese games over due to demand which exceeds any demand back home.

I mean I gaet that you want to hate Sony for console warrior reasons because they're not your brand. But you also have to understand that you're really kind of going at it by outdated assumptions.

I mean I know why I like sony and it's because no other company is bothering funding RPGs to such a large extent that they do. Nintendo doesn't do it outside of once in a blue moon, Xbox could do it but they sit on Bethesda and Obsidian instead. That's my personal metric for wanting to buy shit.

all that autism is kind of moot because PS5 isnt even doing as well as switch in america either

 

[Marissa Moira]

all that autism is kind of moot because PS5 isnt even doing as well as switch in america either

It's been doing around what the PS4 did in it's first year if you're averaging, it's out of any type of danger zone that something like the PS3 and Wii-U were in.

Like the chip shortage is still a thing, but it's much less of a thing than it was months ago. All you can really do is just give it time because there's no real lack of releases for Quarter 1 of 2022. The PS4 came out in 2013 so you're talking about an 8-9 year old machine that didn't have that much going for it a year in and that went on to outdo the PS3.

It's like it's way too early to tell what the PS5's library will look like 8 years from now.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

PC's stopped being a ground for game innovation awhile ago, even before the Xbox360 and PS3. It's why companies like Blizzard just banked on Warcraft and only Warcraft for so long. Hell it's why Valve isn't digging that deep into IP creation because they wanted to coast on e-sports.

You think Nier was heavy hitter in the 7th gen, Death Stranding can run on a potato, and the PC stopped innovating in the PS2 era. You sure you're not smoking crack?

 

[Marissa Moira]

You think Nier was heavy hitter in the 7th gen, Death Stranding can run on a potato, and the PC stopped innovating in the PS2 era. You sure you're not smoking crack?

If Death Stranding can't run on a potato then how could it run on a PS4 a piece of hardware released in 2013?

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

If Death Stranding can't run on a potato then how could it run on a PS4 a piece of hardware released in 2013?

The PS4 only has a few configurations while the PC has millions. Guess which is easier to optimize a game for.

 

[Pissmaster]

I was talking about the kind of japanese ecosystem PlayStation cultivated over two decades that ended up migrating over to Nintendo instead. My Switch game library is more alike of an "old" Playstation system than what the PS5 is aiming to be under the rule of SIE's american branch.

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I'm not going to bother with the rest of your post but you wonder why nobody trust you over your claims of "playing video games".

You have too many anime games. Please buy Duke Nukem 3D, thank you.

 

[Marissa Moira]

The PS4 only has a few configurations while the PC has millions. Guess which is easier to optimize a game for.

Look man I feel for you, but the irish were able to get through not being able to find a suitable potato for years.

Stay strong,

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Look man I feel for you, but the irish were able to get through not being able to find a suitable potato for years.

Stay strong,

What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? Is spouting bullshit gibberish what you do when people keep handing you your ass?

 

[Marissa Moira]

What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? Is spouting bullshit gibberish what you do when people keep handing you your ass?

Fucking hell since when were double entendres and puns some criminal offence?

Where are we, Ankh Morpork?

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Fucking hell since when were double entendres and puns some criminal offence?

Where are we, Ankh Morpork?

Its not criminal, its just stupid, too stupid for me. And considering you've said nothing but stupid things in this thread, that's quite an achievement.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Its not criminal, its just stupid, too stupid for me. And considering you've said nothing but stupid things in this thread, that's quite an achievement.

I don't know dude I mean that was a very clear reference to the irish potato famine and associating it to the current hardware shortage.

 

[BananaSplit]

It's definitely more modern persona than it is base SMT.

The japanese ecosystem for the switch is roughly the same as it's been in previous generations of Nintendo systems

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For example, Playstation 5 has Dragon Quest 10 coming out for it but it's not going to get an international release, so as a collector I'm going to have to import it which is a hurdle to jump through and doesn't have the game as easily accessible as something like Final Fantasy 7R so less people wind up playing it. Japanese only releases also tend to be way more expensive than $70 and that's before factoring in other expenses and charges that can happen after buying it.

It really begs the question why you're bothering to import text-heavy japanese games when you clearly don't read moonspeak, but then again I've picked up for awhile from your posts that you have a crippling autism towards buying & collecting physicals rather than actually playing them. Something similar to how some people on the Internet are posting photos of their collection of +100 physicals for a particular system, which I can remember from my PSVita days.

I would have understood a bit if the japanese physical was multi-language at least but that sounds more throwing money out of the window instead.

You have too many anime games. Please buy Duke Nukem 3D, thank you.

I appreciate the advice but is there any catch with that version compared to the older Vita and PC GoG releases ? (before they expired from license issues a while ago)

I do have a couple of western games, like Lumines Remastered, Cuphead, Alien Isolation and the ones below.

But I won't deny that I'm a huge weeb however.

 

[Marissa Moira]

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It really begs the question why you're bothering to import text-heavy japanese games when you clearly don't read moonspeak, but then again I've picked up for awhile from your posts that you have a crippling autism towards buying & collecting physicals rather than actually playing them. Something similar to how some people on the Internet are posting photos of their collection of +100 physicals for a particular system, which I can remember from my PSVita days.

I would have understood a bit if the japanese physical was multi-language at least but that sounds more throwing money out of the window instead.

Lack of Language options have never really been a barrier to me personally.

I mean I've finished quite a few games that were not in english this year already.

 

[Pissmaster]

I appreciate the advice but is there any catch with that version compared to the older Vita and PC GoG releases (before they expired from license issues a while ago)?

The older one (Megaton Edition) came with all the classic expansion packs, and then the 20th Anniversary Edition scrapped those. Steam reviews at the time mentioned it felt like a port from console to PC, somehow, with other assorted little problems.

I don't know, it's a meme game, and I have more fun just seeing Duke in my game library than ever actually playing it.

Lack of Language options have never really been a barrier to me personally.

I mean I've finished quite a few games that were not in english this year already.

Congrats on finally finishing Chotto! Tatakae chibi chinchin daibouken densetsu goyzaru

 

[Marissa Moira]

Congrats on finally finishing Chotto! Tatakae chibi chinchin daibouken densetsu goyzaru

Nah most recently it was the Konosuba games.

Some of the general asian releases with english option are way more expensive than the Japanese releases despite being the same game. You save like over $450 in some cases by just opting for the Japanese release.