🎨 Artcow Iconoclast / Jonathan Mack Sweet - The Chris-Chan of Arkansas

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Wait he was a graduate student? I guess I always assumed he was an undergrad when he got the boot because he was working as an unpaid student newspaper columnist. Don't graduate students typically get a stipend or are involved in research?
 
Are we just going to ignore that Jon was walking his pitbull to eat dumpster meat every day, and taking naps by the dumpster?
Yeah, I was thinking about that little detail as well. He says his family restricted him because he was becoming "too indulgent" with the dog walks (it's hard to tell how much of what he reports is actually what people tell him, his interpretation of what they are telling him, or assumptions on his part due to a unique lack of curiosity/arrogance), so I wonder if they got some phone calls by business owners/police about what they initially thought was a vagrant sleeping and dumpster diving on their property.

Wait he was a graduate student? I guess I always assumed he was an undergrad when he got the boot because he was working as an unpaid student newspaper columnist. Don't graduate students typically get a stipend or are involved in research?
Your confusion is certainly understandable, as Sweet's jeremiads involve experiences most associate with being an undergraduate: living in a dorm, eating meals in the caf', working on the student paper. But yeah, from what we've been able to piece together here, the timeline goes like: gets kicked off paper --> graduates --> enters graduate program --> (perhaps almost immediately after?) gets expelled --> gets banned from campus.

Here's Sweet at graduation:
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Yeah, I was thinking about that little detail as well. He says his family restricted him because he was becoming "too indulgent" with the dog walks (it's hard to tell how much of what he reports is actually what people tell him, his interpretation of what they are telling him, or assumptions on his part due to a unique lack of curiosity/arrogance), so I wonder if they got some phone calls by business owners/police about what they initially thought was a vagrant sleeping and dumpster diving on their property.


Your confusion is certainly understandable, as Sweet's jeremiads involve experiences most associate with being an undergraduate: living in a dorm, eating meals in the caf', working on the student paper. But yeah, from what we've been able to piece together here, the timeline goes like: gets kicked off paper --> graduates--> enters graduate program --> (perhaps almost immediately after?) gets expelled --> gets banned from campus.

Here's Sweet at graduation:
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That's about right. It's been a while but I pretty clearly remember he managed to get his Bachelor's in English, then he got expelled super early in his Graduate program entirely because he acted like an entitled creepy stalker who doesn't understand or cares what "leave" or "no Jon fuck off" means.

Jonny never even got to the stuff he'd have flunked at that stage since it was like his first semester.

ADDENDUM: Also, just because it needs repeating; Jon could actually have continued on as a student if he took the therapy that ASU demanded he take due to acting like a loon. Jonny though refused, which was the big reason why he got kicked out.
 
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I'd like to talk for a minute about Sweet's fantasy of returning to live in the ASU dorms.

Sweet actually already graduated, and was enrolled in a master's program there. Do master's program students live in dorms? Is there an age limit generally?
It depends on the university. Some have dorms or segments of dorms set aside for graduate students, some only have on-campus housing for undergrads, and some only have on-campus housing for freshmen. I'd be very surprised if any that allow for graduate students have them in a suite or room with an undergrad.
 
Sweet actually already graduated, and was enrolled in a master's program there. Do master's program students live in dorms? Is there an age limit generally?

When I was an undergrad -- long ago -- there was a 45-year-old guy living in a dorm next to mine. He was working on an undergrad degree. Some universities have separate dorms for grad students, and some have small on-campus apartments for married students.

Short answer: If Sweet were readmitted, he could probably get a dorm room. But the Housing Office would almost certainly make him live by himself, especially if they got a look at him or were warned by the folks in charge of Sweet's criminal files.
 
Any of you guys watch Jon’s YouTube videos? Seems mostly him playing the radio and then silently eating, but he spergs about stuff in the descriptions.

I don’t know what the hell he’s doing at the 5:09 mark, but he’s just a very disturbing individual. “The burrito, however, is absolutely exquisite.”
 
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Yep, he just needs that toupee, and he'll be indistinguishable from a 20 year-old! These are stills, which he posted himself to DeviantArt, from his latest video, in which he appears to just there and pin stuff to the corkboard while listening to some radio program or something. He must be extremely attention starved.

He posted this alongside a two-post rant in which he covered all of the classics. He apparently considers 2009-2017 to be a "primitive and unenlightened time" because of "Obamacable" and him being too dumb to know that streaming is a thing until a few years ago.

"I write about it, you pay me to read about it. Simple as that; end of story." :story:

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Part 2

Archive isn't working for some reason, but I've got both posts screencapped.
 
Any of you guys watch Jon’s YouTube videos? Seems mostly him playing the radio and then silently eating, but he spergs about stuff in the descriptions.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6mZ1gmZVfYs:309I don’t know what the hell he’s doing at the 5:09 mark, but he’s just a very disturbing individual. “The burrito, however, is absolutely exquisite.”
Sweets has a ghostly YouTube channel. He videos himself in his room, averages single-digit views, continues. I have no interest in exploring his channel any further than scrolling through the titles. It sucks. I am not watching my videos, and not afraid that I am missing anything.

Sweets' value as a lolcow was in his tendency to self-destruction, his vendettas over ancient and insignificant events, the way he wildly misinterpreted things. His YouTube channel seems to be an exhibition of his foulness and outright incompetence, not his desire to wreak vengeance on his enemies. Gross dudes who suck at everything that matters to them are ubiquitous, and Sweets is boring. His journals however...
Are we just going to ignore that Jon was walking his pitbull to eat dumpster meat every day, and taking naps by the dumpster?
Sweets inability to understand things is precious and should be admired. He admits to frequently going dumpster diving with his dog, whom he then naps with behind a grocery store. It sounds an awful lot like he is lurking and loitering. He must look every inch the bum during these excursions, which last up to 4 hours. Unselfconsciously describing these "escapades" to the world is a good start.

Sweets really takes off when he describes the world's reaction to his escapades. His family forbids him, a grown man, from leaving the yard with his dog. Lame. He relates that he is told it is because of Covid, but later learns that his family is concerned that if the "authorities" learn about his "escapades" with his dog, the dog will be taken away. Because it is a pitbull. But its all because of Covid, and rules and so forth. It does not seem to occur to him that what he's been up to might be anything other than normal.

This is good Sweets, not top-shelf, but serviceable. A 40+ year old fart afficiando who bitterly resents his family telling him that he is no longer allowed to nap behind a supermarket all day, and feed his dog the contents of a dumpster; who must follow their rules; who understands this restraint on his liberty as a Covid era conspiracy.
 
As a Sweets connoisseur, what would you rate as excellent grade?
When Sweets fails to understand something simple and obvious, and then adamantly defends his confusion, he does his best work. Take the pennies being stuffed in his door, for example: Sweets saw it as a perk of being a journalist, a gesture of appreciation from his fans, and crowed about it. He did not understand he was being fucked with.

Excellent grade Sweets, to my taste, is of the "half-past 1997" and "nobody told me!" vintage. I am particularly fond of his plans to return to ASU, especially the one where he runs away from home, hops a rail, and lurks in the dorms like a sperger Phantom of the Opera. His many explanations of the end of his "newspaperman" career are excellent, and the story of his romantic misadventures with Ashley and the china phone are delicious.

My guilty Sweets pleasures include his racism and cowardice (Jigaboo Junction, cowering before menacing negros), and also the Kim Possible shit. The knowledge that virginal Sweets is thrilled by sneezing and farting cartoon girls amuses, but his fetishes are dull.
...from what we've been able to piece together here, the timeline goes like: gets kicked off paper --> graduates--> enters graduate program --> (perhaps almost immediately after?) gets expelled --> gets banned from campus.
Is there a similar timeline for the Ashley arc? How does that fit into the expulsion timeline? It's never been that clear to me, but my sense is that for a spell, he was truly out of control and waging a two-front stalking campaign against ASU and the "love of his life."
 
Is there a similar timeline for the Ashley arc? How does that fit into the expulsion timeline? It's never been that clear to me, but my sense is that for a spell, he was truly out of control and waging a two-front stalking campaign against ASU and the "love of his life."
IIRC, Ashlaaaaay first called him up on the chinaphone in early 1997, around the time he got booted from the school paper by The System. All of that stretched over 1997, maybe into early 1998.
 
IIRC, Ashlaaaaay first called him up on the chinaphone in early 1997, around the time he got booted from the school paper by The System. All of that stretched over 1997, maybe into early 1998.
That makes sense, I believe he mentioned she was a freshman co-ed and frequently emphasized her youth, her ”supple peaches ripening under the southern sun“ and so forth, implying that he was an upperclassman at the time.
 
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That makes sense, I believe he mentioned she was a freshman co-ed and frequently emphasized her youth, her ”supple peaches ripening under the southern sun“ and so forth, implying that he was an upperclassman at the time.
I think the other girl that he claims was his girlfriend between Ashlaaaay dumping him and calling him up again later was a college student. He's claimed that Ashlaaaaay was a "barely-legal" townie, although I don't believe that he had any idea who she actually was, considering he only saw her IRL once for like five minutes. It was definitely in 1997 though.

The peaches thing was something else. IIRC, he claimed that the southern sun makes "young girls' peaches ripen early" as if they'd "been left in the trunk of a hot car or a slightly moldy basement" or something like that.
 
I think the other girl that he claims was his girlfriend between Ashlaaaay dumping him and calling him up again later was a college student.
I believe it was an Asian woman who he had lunch with once in the caf'. He later based the character "Tin Boo Tee" on her. He doubly hates Ashley because he thinks that he gave up a lifetime of happiness with "Tin" to get back with his "ex." (My memory is a bit hazy...this is some good old school Sweet content.)

He's claimed that Ashlaaaaay was a "barely-legal" townie...The peaches thing was something else. IIRC, he claimed that the southern sun makes "young girls' peaches ripen early" as if they'd "been left in the trunk of a hot car or a slightly moldy basement" or something like that.
Yeah when he was referring to "the sight of all that ripe and abundant lil’girl-flesh" I assumed he was basing all that on "barely-legal" Ashlay.
 
It depends on the university. Some have dorms or segments of dorms set aside for graduate students, some only have on-campus housing for undergrads, and some only have on-campus housing for freshmen. I'd be very surprised if any that allow for graduate students have them in a suite or room with an undergrad.
Where I went to college, once you were a graduate student, you were eligible for housing in the campus apartments, which had their own kitchen and bathroom. Since the youngest grad student was 24-25 and college freshmen tend to be 18-19, this worked out, because mobs of kids fresh out of high school getting their first taste of freedom are really, really obnoxious when you're over 21 or so. They self-segregated.
 
I believe it was an Asian woman who he had lunch with once in the caf'. He later based the character "Tin Boo Tee" on her. He doubly hates Ashley because he thinks that he gave up a lifetime of happiness with "Tin" to get back with his "ex." (My memory is a bit hazy...this is some good old school Sweet content.)
I do remember the Japanese student and Tin Boo Tee. It was hilarious how he sperged out trying to prove that it wasn't a racist name and how it totally made sense.

I'm pretty sure that she wasn't Intermission Girl though. I recall him claiming (key word is claiming) five relationships: Ashlaaaay, Intermission Girl, Japanese exchange student who he sat with in the dining hall a few times, woman (from California?) from the Daria forum, and underage girl who was the daughter of one of his mom's friends (possibly the doll shop woman). None of these was a real relationship, of course, but nobody told him.

I could be misremembering, though, but I'm fairly certain that Intermission Girl was white (her name might have been Susan or something like that, but I'd have to dig back to confirm, and Sweetums is honestly too low-energy nowadays to care that much.)
 
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