🐱 Fandom Ageism Doesn't Make Any Sense - Lol grow up

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For a while it seemed like Millennials and Gen Z-ers on the internet were a united front against Baby Boomers, but now they seem to be at odds with each other. As a cusper who tends to identify more with the Millennial side of things, I have admittedly felt a bit of a “get off my lawn” feeling towards certain members of Gen Z (usually the younger ones) from time to time online, but lately, I’ve been surprised to see that attitude coming from those on the younger side to “oldies” like myself.

I should start by clarifying that there are some minors who make it clear they don’t feel comfortable interacting with adults in online spaces, and that’s perfectly fine. Internet safety is important, and while you can never really tell if a stranger is who they say they are, listing “Do Not Interact” (or DNI) categories can be a way to help customize someone’s online experience to make them more comfortable. So, it’s perfectly fine for kids and teens to try to stay away from adults on the internet and enjoy things like online fandom spaces with people closer to their own age.

I also love that so many of today’s teens aren’t afraid to correct adults when they get things wrong, or call them out on their harmful behavior. That’s awesome, and I’m glad that so many young people are boldly standing up for justice on issues of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and more. However, the topic of adults simply existingin fandom is a much different story. The only time it comes close is if adult members of an online community target minors within it.

That’s definitely a problem that needs to be dealt with, but what I’m talking about here is the claim from many kids and teens that adults shouldn’t be present in fan communities at all.

Growing up, most of us tend to have some sort of inaccurate expectations and ideals of what an “adult” is. This is partly because the world is always changing (economic conditions have led to an increased number of people in their 20s and 30s still living with their parents, myself included) but also because young people haven’t actually experienced adulthood for themselves yet, and there are just some things you don’t fully understand until you’re at that point yourself.

The implication from minors upset by the presence of adults in fandom spaces seems to be that they shouldn’t be as invested in the media they consume as kids are, and should be spending their time paying taxes, or taking care of their kids, or whatever it is they think adults spend all their time doing outside of work.

I think most minors in any fan community would consider fandom one of their hobbies, and it’s exactly the same for adults. I’m not sure if the kids complaining think that adults should have different hobbies than kids or if they just shouldn’t have time for any at all, but yes, adults do have interests beyond their personal responsibilities, and fandom makes a lot of sense as one of them, when you think about it. It’s something that can be participated in at any time of day, which makes it work well for people who have busy or unpredictable schedules.

There’s also the fact that there just aren’t as many groups to foster the hobbies of adults as there are for kids and teens. Most schools and municipalities will have plenty of sports leagues, dance and art classes, and other organized activities for kids to participate in, and while there are some of these for adults in certain places, the time commitment just doesn’t work for a lot of people.

And let’s keep in mind that pretty much all media that has sprouted hardcore fan communities is created and worked on by adults—often adults who have been and are fans themselves. Some minors may not like to see older people do things like cosplay or write fanfiction, but it’s adults that create the “official,” professional versions of these things, like the costumes seen on the actual shows and movies (and retail store Halloween costumes) and the scripts for the canon stories themselves, so it makes just as much sense as a hobby.

So it’s pretty obvious that it’s not only kids who get invested in TV shows, love going to the movies, collect comic books, or consume whatever other media is out there. And as with anything else, it’s only natural for people to want to talk about the things they love with others, no matter their age. Social media is one of the main ways people find others with like-minded interests in the modern world, so of course fans are going to flock there to talk about the latest installment of their favorite show or movie franchise.

Some people do move on from fandom as they get older, or at least from being as invested in it when they were kids. But I have to wonder just how many of those berating adults for being in fandom spaces right now will grow up to realize they themselves don’t want (nor do they need) to leave their fan communities behind, even if they currently think they surely will by X age.

Bottom line: This has the same energy as the mom who wrote that long rant about childless adults at Disney World. The dominance of pop culture by “nerdy” things means fandom, now more than ever, is for all demographics, and there is plenty of room for everyone within the wide world of fan culture.
 
There is no reason to ever interact with children on the internet except to troll them or groom them. If you are part of these online communities I will think you are a pedophile.
 
The problem with fandoms is how mainstream shit has become; the old guard wasn't treated the same as kids are now depending on what they liked. Videogames were for losers, virgins, etc; now-a-days videogames are for everyone, but especially the LGBT-POC who were there and started everything (allegedly). But also, fandom didn't consume your lives, because you still had shit to do, but also, the world didn't have 24/7 instant access to whatever you wanted. Fandom has turned from something that could be socially healthy to a corrupting force. It was harder to find people into the same shit, but also easier to ostracize the lunatics and weirdos; but now, with progressivism being what it is, everyone is getting bullied into accepting the lunatics and weirdos because it's mean to exclude them.

I never stopped liking videogames, anime, sci-fi, etc; but I also know that I don't need to broadcast it to everyone 24/7. There are several people I work with, several are obvious anime fans; it's obvious with how their decorate their desks and mouse mats. I'm not a stick up my ass professional, I'd decorate my desk, but I also don't want to bring in shit from home and have it run risk of people fucking with it. But you know what, we all manage to do our jobs, and not sperg out about OMG THE NEW EPISODE/CHAPTER JUST DROPPED!!!! A lot of current day fans have a problem not doing that over everything, everything, including the fans, has to be in your face about it. Homeboy fucking crying over the Rise of Skywalker trailer is proof enough. What the fuck is so wrong in your life, (your wife going to the spa without you being one) that a trailer for a shit movie does that to you. You're a grown fucking man who managed to get married somehow, grow the fuck up.

As for the perverts who can't think past their genitals and inject sex/gender/lgbt/etc into everything, fucking neck yourself. I don't mind banging some easy cosplayers at AX or Sakura-Con, but we were also discreet about it; you're fucking ruining everything.
 
I've never seen people get genuinely offended adults people like things but that's probably because I don't use twitter or reddit. Jokes about shit? sure but that's a completely different ballpark.
Tumblr, they're talking about tumblr. Tumblr regularly has "adults out of fandom" posts. The younger set then gets bitchy when the adults point out that the fandoms they're entering have existed for decades (such as Star Wars or Star Trek) or that things like conventions only exist because adults are the ones running/volunteering/paying for it.

It's a cyclical thing, like tumblr kiddies bitching about AO3 having fundraisers despite the site having no advertising at all. Literally every time AO3 raises above the minimum asking amount there's a flurry of tumblr kiddies screeching that the nonprofit needs to give that surplus to POC/trans/mememememememememememe dammit!
 
Remember kids. Any full grown adult who is into anime, Disney, Star Wars, Pokemon, Steven Universe or any other such shit is a pedophile.
Hah, what...? I'm pretty sure you're trolling, but alright.

I think adults who are into childish shit like Steven Universe are autistic, and certain groups like Bronies it's fine to assume are degenerates, but you listed not only specific franchises but literally all animation from Japan. I don't need to explain why that's retarded.

But then you also listed Star Wars. It was one of the most popular movies in the 70's, you're telling me everyone who packed those theaters are child rapists because they liked Star Wars?

I know you're trolling. I know it. But just in case lmao

...Fans of the Star Wars sequels might be a bit sus, though.
 
It depends.

If a fandom has been around since pre-2005, then it shouldn’t come as a surprised if there are adults in that fandom space.

But if it’s over shit like Steven Universe, Owl House, Luca or some other show clearly meant for kids? Stay the fuck away from the fandom and don’t interact. It’s cringe as hell.

I vaguely recall there being some 45 year old Sailor Moon fan way back in 2003 who was pretty much mocked
 
Hah, what...? I'm pretty sure you're trolling, but alright.

I think adults who are into childish shit like Steven Universe are autistic, and certain groups like Bronies it's fine to assume are degenerates, but you listed not only specific franchises but literally all animation from Japan. I don't need to explain why that's retarded.

But then you also listed Star Wars. It was one of the most popular movies in the 70's, you're telling me everyone who packed those theaters are child rapists because they liked Star Wars?

I know you're trolling. I know it. But just in case lmao

...Fans of the Star Wars sequels might be a bit sus, though.
There's a difference between being an adult who has fond memories of stuff from when you were a kid, and being an adult who is still part of an active fandom of all this childish shit.

Don't you all have jobs, wives and kids to occupy your time? Grow up.
 
There's a difference between being an adult who has fond memories of stuff from when you were a kid, and being an adult who is still part of an active fandom of all this childish shit.

Don't you all have jobs, wives and kids to occupy your time? Grow up.
The theaters were packed with adults then and now. People like good movies and that doesn't make them violent rapists--job, kids, wife, or not.

There's degrees of childishness in the entertainment we all enjoy and it's subjective. There could be an argument for even sports to be considered childish too.

But I noticed you're specifying "active fandoms" now. That's a bit different, and I'm not even sure what that fully entails. If we're talking about people who are excessively obsessed with it like writing tons of fan fiction, constantly cosplaying, and making these fantasies a core aspect of their identity, then sure, that's definitely autistic.

But just playing the new Mario or whatever isn't at all an indication, of, well, anything.
 
Article writer clearly isn't old enough to experience their own demographic invading the hobbies adults are "supposed" to have and leaching all the enjoyable aspects out of them in favor of the sociopolitical bullshit we all got into our hobbies to fucking escape from.

Seethe as the circle comes for you, kiddo.
 
Bullshit

if you’re in your 30s and 40s and still into things meant for little kids like Pokémon, Harry Potter, MLP etc..I’m going to judge the fuck out of you. And don’t give me that “oh i grew up with it so it’s ok! Blah blah” that’s a lame excuse. There’s a difference between being nostalgic once in awhile and taking a short trip down memory road and then there’s straight up arrested development where you never grew past the mental age of 10.

trust me. I’m a guy with a Tiny Toons avatar.
 
You know what I find really weird? The idea that a grown man can have my 9 year old brother run up to them and say to them 'I love Minecraft!' and that full grown man will try and have an actual conversation about Minecraft with him. No actually that's not weird, that's fucking gross, and creepy and inappropriate. Children's things are for children. That CS lewis quote that people love to bring up to justify their late stage metastasized manchildness is not about how it's okay to be a mental child, it's about not being neurotic about what others think.

Faggot.
Minecraft was made for all ages. Early on, most of the people playing it were teenagers and adults. Not really any different from an adult and a kid talking about building model tanks. A better example would be a little girl talking about My Little Pony with a 40 year old man.
 
Minecraft was made for all ages. Early on, most of the people playing it were teenagers and adults. Not really any different from an adult and a kid talking about building model tanks. A better example would be a little girl talking about My Little Pony with a 40 year old man.
Notch, shameless whore that he is, actually spent months on end shilling minecraft on /v/ back when it was in 'indev', the pre alpha where the world was limited to like 512x512 blocks. I didn't believe /v/ at first when he was accused of spamming threads day and night, but I think he eventually owned up to it when he started trying to formalize his questions and feedback. Naturally, this means that minecraft was targeted at adults, since you have to be 18 or older to post on /v/.
 
Notch, shameless whore that he is, actually spent months on end shilling minecraft on /v/ back when it was in 'indev', the pre alpha where the world was limited to like 512x512 blocks. I didn't believe /v/ at first when he was accused of spamming threads day and night, but I think he eventually owned up to it when he started trying to formalize his questions and feedback. Naturally, this means that minecraft was targeted at adults, since you have to be 18 or older to post on /v/.
By the time I was aware of Minecraft, it had spread to forums where you had to be 13 or older.
 
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