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Why the fuck do you need to bring out a guest speaker to talk about some eceleb making a bunch of jokes that would have been fine 10 years ago? Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
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lol the dislikes pedoladd's latest """apology""" video finally outnumbered the likes, its been a good two days man
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A new video regarding Dream's speedrun has been made.
TL;DW: the guy ran millions of simulations trying to emulate what Dream did, but none of them come close to the luck he had in his infamous run. So, he came to the conclusion that, yes, he cheated.
Still doesn't help that he deleted his mod folder too.
TL;DW: the guy ran millions of simulations trying to emulate what Dream did, but none of them come close to the luck he had in his infamous run. So, he came to the conclusion that, yes, he cheated.
Still doesn't help that he deleted his mod folder too.
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Reminds me of Terry,
Here's my favorite Auts:
Carrington Hollister,he has the 'tism and does this facial angel that makes him look like Boris Karloff
Carrington Hollister - YouTube
The Giveaway Car Rules and A Potential Sponsor for The Channel. - YouTube
(23) The True Meaning of Christmas. (Merry Christmas
) - YouTubeWhy I transitioned from Christianity to Atheism? - YouTube
My iStory with dealing with The Three Financial Stooges - YouTube
Me singing The Cleveland Show theme song - YouTube
Any my favortie Religious Tuber (who I unironically hope is right) The Apostle Brady Lee Hess!
Jehu Ministries (archive.org)
presidentbrady (archive.org)
Brady Lee Hess (facebook.com)
Man found guilty except for insanity of kidnapping, rape - Washington Times
Brady Hess - Caregiver - Brady's Home Care | LinkedIn
Rock 'n' roll, sex buddies are OK - YouTube
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Because of the Dream drama going on, Cryotic has been brought up due to accusations of Dream stealing Cry's "iconic" mask. I wanted to also provide an archival post for the drama regarding Cry and the accusations of grooming, and well... being a piece of shit hermit whose done nothing with his life but play vidya and Twitch.
In June of 2020 posts were published of Cry being accused of grooming his underage fans and using them as emotional sponges for his own issues. He also allegedly sent nudes to them despite the fact they were underaged.
Other screencap from someone else on the LNC group regarding the grooming accusations.
TLDR: Cry fan who wanted to be more, ended up being used as a emotional sponge and found out she was the backup side chick.
There were also questions regarding Cry's friendship with the Late Night Crew.
TLDR: Snake made it clear Cry and him were simply two dudes running a business in playing Vidya, and nothing more.
Cry, not realizing he should shut the fuck up, posted this response to the accusations.
He later admitted it was made in a manic state of mind, but refused to DFE it, instead posting this.
Meanwhile, his Co-Host, Russ, posted his own response in a tweetlong that I will archive here.
TLDR: Cry not only fucked with his Russ' first GF Cheyanne, but with another girl named Red, and another girl who also fucked with Russ' feelings. He also expresses his disgust toward Cry's emotional abuse towards his fans.
Another accuser posted this tweetlong as well, this one containing a lot of damning information:
I originally began compiling this because one of Cry's victims linked me an image (https://gyazo.com/330c8127f9e923df6d1f553a1b86f8b4) of Cheyenne and Cryaotic colluding to involve Russ, Snake and I, with Cheyenne enticing Cry to "do something good" as a pretty transparent manipulation attempt to let him redeem himself by enacting her vendettas. I am completely unsure why she shared this with a victim that has been actively supporting and working with us. This immediately set off several bright red flags. Cheyenne is a victim of Cry's. She has been completely volatile with rage for years about what Cry did to her. Yet for some reason, they are working together. The abuser and the victim. Working together. To blame other people. She is literally working with her abusive pedophile to try something that changes nothing about either of their well-beings and erases no suffering from victims. There is no interest in healing here, just more of Cheyenne's extremely consistent vendetta against all of us. In defense of Cheyenne, I must say that her hatred of us is also in part due to her being unaware that she was lied to about our knowledge of the situation regarding Cry cheating on her.
However, it has become clear from recent information from victims that Cry is not even closing to atoning for his actions, but is accosting and shifting blame wherever possible. (https://gyazo.com/bdb9a7a9c9722d1feffe7d02892311c1) (https://gyazo.com/dff8b89a097d606057725eb5d4d8a58e) (https://gyazo.com/8a4bfc5efc674be55c49055d4ed9e88d)
Because of this, we no longer feel it is worth hearing Cry's side of the story anymore and will release this without provocation.
Immediately before this, another victim (albeit less severe) showed that Cry said this (https://gyazo.com/bdd181885938142f25eb9df431bd1ba9). He went immediately from "I will not blame anyone for this" to "I will blame everyone but myself" in a matter of hours. He started drastically changing a couple of weeks ago and I don't know if it was related to medication or whatever. Suffice to say, he flips from 0 to 100 instantly and very frequently.
Regardless, let's go over the actual claim - that we all knew everything.
Only a few days ago, I began talking with a victim who can name themselves if they wish, and started learning the severity of the shit Cry has done. For the record, I personally have been consistent in admitting I knew at one point there was a screenshot of sexual roleplay text with a 16 year old. 6 or 7 years ago I begrudgingly accepted he had a cringey roleplay session with someone that, at least in Florida, would have been legal so I just let it go, assuming it to be a one time event. That was the one thing I knew of and had proof of. In hindsight, yeah, probably should haven't let that go, but I didn't really see any evidence of anything else happening. Still, I can easily apologize for accepting a creepy one-off situation and fully accept being ignorant in that regard. My knowledge of what grooming was that long ago was essentially nonexistent.
And that's pretty much what I knew involving issues that could be deemed illegal. I will not speak for the others as I'm not sure whether or not they had even seen the same screenshot. Obviously there were a slew of other things, some of which we learned at various times like the fact Cry fooled around with Russ's girlfriend. We put the decision to stay on Russ, who chose to stay out of a neccessity for quite literally, his life. Russ has explained why his home life was abysmal on his stream.
Additionally, I kept coming to Cry as I learned more things. I'll keep going, but this is already proof that not only did he keep things from us, but he would actively lie about the things we did confront him on and then try to justify them. (https://gyazo.com/ebc0c6c5753b47c5382f118e28c76404) As a strange side note, Cry responds that he is not aware of everything he's done, which is just a very weird statement.
Here is a victim saying we didn't know because it was covered up to us: https://gyazo.com/9fbce81fcf085a5564ab3da6e3fbbeab
The victim, Ocean, recently released this information himself.
I kept trying to follow up with Cry as I kept getting told more by victims but he kept ignoring all of us. He still responded to other friends and mods, a very consistent example of him talking to us the least out of everyone in the community. As of 6/25/2020 2:41PM, he still has not contacted a single one of us. (https://gyazo.com/71d0eb60fb48008ae7c00ab6e1c0f928)
Cheyenne told the group that she was cheated on with Ocean. I don't recall being there at the time, and according to Ocean he doesn't think I was there either: https://gyazo.com/d27f58d20893d8ed0ca2752fe6a8853e
Regardless, no ages were mentioned during this. We knew Ocean very briefly as I believe he was on Late Night a few times. None of us really spoke to Ocean outside of Late Night, as he later confirmed.
The only source we had for Cheyenne's age was Cheyenne herself, who lied about her own age. That's something I at least understand, as she wanted to protect cry and was undoubtedly being manipulated. That being said, the information we had on her age, untrue as it was, came literally from the person in question. Cheyenne has repeatedly admitted this on Twitter. Here she is defending her age being legal, and then defending the age of consent in Florida: https://gyazo.com/72a7a7cb64a9809ea5f7de41b8877f8c
I must re-iterate that just because she lied about her age doesn't mean she did something wrong there. While she can be a terrible person sometimes, she was still a victim too.
She would later condemn my ignorance to the screenshot situation due to it technically being legal (as far as I knew at the time) while simultaneously holding the same opinion of technical legality while she dated cry as a 17 year old. Again, I do not justify my ignorance.
Cheyenne also personally accused me of threatening her with falsifying data or some bullshit which never happened and of course there is no proof of (https://gyazo.com/1015a7ab308a6571750f8518803f8ca6). When I asked her about the evidence, she simply stopped responding.
Other than that, there is no other physical media I can show you, but I would hope what was shown here is more proof than the absolutely nothing Cry has put out.
I also want it to be clear, Cheyenne was a bad person. However, when I originally met her, I don't believe she was. It is extremely hard to be sympathetic to someone who so ritually attacks you and your friends, but her personality changed after being with Cry. Whether coincidental or not, I acknowledge it is certainly a possibility that her current behavior is related to what happened to her. Abusers tend to instill their abuse on other people. It is fair to say we feverently dislike Cheyenne and despite countless attacks on our characters, I still find it very hard to blame her for any of this because she was also misled. Her hatred for us being based on false information at the very least, justifies her anger in all of this. I feel none of that justifies colluding with your abuser, but do not shift focus away from the actual culprit in all of this. No one but Cry deserves blame, so leave her alone.
Cry is a spineless, disgusting coward. He tells people he will make no excuses, and blame no one but himself, only to hours later shift blame, when that does absolutely for the victims whatsoever. Recently he has told one of his victims that he still "loved them and was proud of them" which is just the weirdest fucking thing to say to a victim I can imagine. (https://gyazo.com/a2b0c020bfffa70a0bfebfb64a970f72) Cry has called himself a coward numerous, numerous times. Even if I had provided absolutely no evidence, it is so blatantly obvious from his personality he would never come close to having the strength to admit to us he engaged in sexual activities with minors, while grooming others. He didn't even tell us about relationships he was in. He lied about Angel, Red, Cheyenne, and countless other things. He doesn't have the spine to make a confession of ANY kind, much less one that is a felony. On top of all of that, we were barely friends, and it appears Cry actually actively disliked me personally. There is not a single convincing reason he would divulge any of this information to us.
Finally here, have this. I received it from a victim who we've been in contact with. https://gyazo.com/fd5978854f04ccdd91081524d5d9d8b1 "I didn't know they were underage." (his old phone number corresponded with the date)
Yeah, real trustworthy fucking guy. Thank you for bringing more stress upon us for absolutely nothing you piece of shit. Imagine fucking with your best friend's girl and lying about it, then taking his next girl and lying about it, then implicating him in your treachery by association, while lying about it. Even if Russ somehow knew literally everything, imagine STILL choosing to continue to be as evil as possible to him, with no regard for the actual victims. You shot him in the heart, then in the face, then shit on his corpse. Your heart is ice and you are beyond redemption. Go fuck yourself.
I apologize for the anger in my words. For all of the vctims we have been talking with and those who wish to justifiably not share their stories, we support you.
- Scott
(P.S, please refer to Snake's post about us going forward. (https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr9pp8) We are all ashamed to be associated with this and are disgusted with our ignorance about accusations. We intend to make every improvement listed in his comment. Thanks)
In the end of all this, the only one to take any action was Snake, claiming he's sent the information to "the proper parties".
As of today, Cry is still on twitter, but his Twitch account is suspended. His YouTube page is up, however, he has not posted anything since the accusations.
In June of 2020 posts were published of Cry being accused of grooming his underage fans and using them as emotional sponges for his own issues. He also allegedly sent nudes to them despite the fact they were underaged.
Other screencap from someone else on the LNC group regarding the grooming accusations.
There were also questions regarding Cry's friendship with the Late Night Crew.
Cry, not realizing he should shut the fuck up, posted this response to the accusations.
He later admitted it was made in a manic state of mind, but refused to DFE it, instead posting this.
Meanwhile, his Co-Host, Russ, posted his own response in a tweetlong that I will archive here.
When Cheyenne and Cry started dating, I was initially surprised as I hadn't heard of Cheyenne for a long while nor did I know that Cry had feelings for her. It was about that time Cry and I began to drift, he spent more time with his girlfriend, didn't invite me to hang out, etc.
One day, things were tumultuous and I simply learned from Cry and Cheyenne that Cry had cheated. No other details were given to me at the time.
During a LN stream, we were playing a game with randoms. One of the randoms was the girl Cry had cheated with. During a break or after stream, Cheyenne explained that who that person was - the person Cry cheated with and told us that she would never be allowed to play games with us. We agreed and moved forward.
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At one point, during the heyday of LN, Red confessed to me that she had cheated on me with her boss at her job after I asked. In that same conversation I asked if her and Cry had ever messed around and was told that it was only 'friendly flirting'. Against my better judgment due to desperation, I forgave Red and tried to move on. I didn't confront Cry on this and tried to put my jealous tendencies behind me however, I certainly distanced myself from Cry - I did not trust him anymore.
I didn't know for sure that Red had cheated on me with Cry, I had strong suspicions but, I simply took my ex's explanation as fact but, it always bothered me. Flirting -for me- comes with intentions.
During a conversation with a friend in 2018/19, I was shown evidence of Cry and Red's infidelity. It was not just flirting, it was sexually charged - going so far as to commission an artist within the LN community to draw them having sex together. This happened while Cry was in a relationship with Cheyenne and while Red was still with me.
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After Red and I had broken up in 2014, I met and began to talk to Angel a few months later. I was infatuated, to say the least, with Angel. We loved each others company, made each other laugh, would tell each other everyday, "Good morning," and "Goodnight," with little heart emojis. We would flirt and be sexual with one another on DMs and over the phone. In my admittance, I was no where near emotionally ready to try to have another romantic relationship - living with untreated depression, PTSD and residing in a horrible hopeless environment. I treated Angel badly, becoming upset whenever my suggestions of a real romantic relationship were denied.
At one point in Angel and I's relationship, I noticed she was hanging out with Cry more often. Cry was definitely aware of my feelings for Angel, even using her presence to try and get me to stream with him once. Having my suspicions of Cry's inability to respect a boundary with Red, I feared he wouldn't respect my crush on Angel. It hurt me a lot to see them stream together, play games offline, hearing that they would have movie nights and not in the least invite me to participate.
Eventually I had had enough and confronted them both about. Both of them claimed it was only friendship. I explained to Cry that Red told me they had flirted in the past and that it pissed me off. He perpetuated the lie and apologized for the flirting but gave me no other details.
I felt foolish that I let my jealousy get the better of me. I told Angel that I couldn't be JUST friends with her, my heart wouldn't allow it. She told me it was unfair that she was losing a friend but, I knew that the cycle of me falling in love with her and being denied would continue ad nauseam.
Months pasted and I began another romantic relationship. I met up with that person at TwitchCon. Hours before I was about to catch my plane home, Angel had began texting me and we began talking about patching things up. During these texts Angel admitted that she did have feelings for me and was struggling with her own depression about it. At this time, and unbeknownst to me, Cry and Angel were dating behind-the-scenes.
Upon breaking up with my romantic partner at the time, I spoke with Angel and confided my issues and problems with that relationship. I later came to find that she was more-or-less using my pain as gossip with a Discord server full of her friends.
At this point, I blocked Angel from all forms of contact and have not spoken to her again.
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It wasn't until Saturday that I learned the severity of it all. The fact that Cry and the initial cheating was with a minor as well as with Red at the same time. I learned that for the past two-ish years recently that Angel and Cry were dating. I am and always be shattered from Cry's lies and manipulations, LN was bad but now it is completely tainted for me.
Learning about the victims will always be the hardest part, the fact this person I once called friend and partner turning out to be a vile and disgusting monster. A person who cared about nothing but his own pleasure. A person who scarred and traumatized impressionable children. And it was on my watch. I'm sorry I didn't notice this sooner - none of the people involved, underaged, other women or myself deserved to be treated this way.
Fuck you, Cry. I hate you for what you've done.
One day, things were tumultuous and I simply learned from Cry and Cheyenne that Cry had cheated. No other details were given to me at the time.
During a LN stream, we were playing a game with randoms. One of the randoms was the girl Cry had cheated with. During a break or after stream, Cheyenne explained that who that person was - the person Cry cheated with and told us that she would never be allowed to play games with us. We agreed and moved forward.
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At one point, during the heyday of LN, Red confessed to me that she had cheated on me with her boss at her job after I asked. In that same conversation I asked if her and Cry had ever messed around and was told that it was only 'friendly flirting'. Against my better judgment due to desperation, I forgave Red and tried to move on. I didn't confront Cry on this and tried to put my jealous tendencies behind me however, I certainly distanced myself from Cry - I did not trust him anymore.
I didn't know for sure that Red had cheated on me with Cry, I had strong suspicions but, I simply took my ex's explanation as fact but, it always bothered me. Flirting -for me- comes with intentions.
During a conversation with a friend in 2018/19, I was shown evidence of Cry and Red's infidelity. It was not just flirting, it was sexually charged - going so far as to commission an artist within the LN community to draw them having sex together. This happened while Cry was in a relationship with Cheyenne and while Red was still with me.
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After Red and I had broken up in 2014, I met and began to talk to Angel a few months later. I was infatuated, to say the least, with Angel. We loved each others company, made each other laugh, would tell each other everyday, "Good morning," and "Goodnight," with little heart emojis. We would flirt and be sexual with one another on DMs and over the phone. In my admittance, I was no where near emotionally ready to try to have another romantic relationship - living with untreated depression, PTSD and residing in a horrible hopeless environment. I treated Angel badly, becoming upset whenever my suggestions of a real romantic relationship were denied.
At one point in Angel and I's relationship, I noticed she was hanging out with Cry more often. Cry was definitely aware of my feelings for Angel, even using her presence to try and get me to stream with him once. Having my suspicions of Cry's inability to respect a boundary with Red, I feared he wouldn't respect my crush on Angel. It hurt me a lot to see them stream together, play games offline, hearing that they would have movie nights and not in the least invite me to participate.
Eventually I had had enough and confronted them both about. Both of them claimed it was only friendship. I explained to Cry that Red told me they had flirted in the past and that it pissed me off. He perpetuated the lie and apologized for the flirting but gave me no other details.
I felt foolish that I let my jealousy get the better of me. I told Angel that I couldn't be JUST friends with her, my heart wouldn't allow it. She told me it was unfair that she was losing a friend but, I knew that the cycle of me falling in love with her and being denied would continue ad nauseam.
Months pasted and I began another romantic relationship. I met up with that person at TwitchCon. Hours before I was about to catch my plane home, Angel had began texting me and we began talking about patching things up. During these texts Angel admitted that she did have feelings for me and was struggling with her own depression about it. At this time, and unbeknownst to me, Cry and Angel were dating behind-the-scenes.
Upon breaking up with my romantic partner at the time, I spoke with Angel and confided my issues and problems with that relationship. I later came to find that she was more-or-less using my pain as gossip with a Discord server full of her friends.
At this point, I blocked Angel from all forms of contact and have not spoken to her again.
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It wasn't until Saturday that I learned the severity of it all. The fact that Cry and the initial cheating was with a minor as well as with Red at the same time. I learned that for the past two-ish years recently that Angel and Cry were dating. I am and always be shattered from Cry's lies and manipulations, LN was bad but now it is completely tainted for me.
Learning about the victims will always be the hardest part, the fact this person I once called friend and partner turning out to be a vile and disgusting monster. A person who cared about nothing but his own pleasure. A person who scarred and traumatized impressionable children. And it was on my watch. I'm sorry I didn't notice this sooner - none of the people involved, underaged, other women or myself deserved to be treated this way.
Fuck you, Cry. I hate you for what you've done.
TLDR: Cry not only fucked with his Russ' first GF Cheyanne, but with another girl named Red, and another girl who also fucked with Russ' feelings. He also expresses his disgust toward Cry's emotional abuse towards his fans.
Another accuser posted this tweetlong as well, this one containing a lot of damning information:
I originally began compiling this because one of Cry's victims linked me an image (https://gyazo.com/330c8127f9e923df6d1f553a1b86f8b4) of Cheyenne and Cryaotic colluding to involve Russ, Snake and I, with Cheyenne enticing Cry to "do something good" as a pretty transparent manipulation attempt to let him redeem himself by enacting her vendettas. I am completely unsure why she shared this with a victim that has been actively supporting and working with us. This immediately set off several bright red flags. Cheyenne is a victim of Cry's. She has been completely volatile with rage for years about what Cry did to her. Yet for some reason, they are working together. The abuser and the victim. Working together. To blame other people. She is literally working with her abusive pedophile to try something that changes nothing about either of their well-beings and erases no suffering from victims. There is no interest in healing here, just more of Cheyenne's extremely consistent vendetta against all of us. In defense of Cheyenne, I must say that her hatred of us is also in part due to her being unaware that she was lied to about our knowledge of the situation regarding Cry cheating on her.
However, it has become clear from recent information from victims that Cry is not even closing to atoning for his actions, but is accosting and shifting blame wherever possible. (https://gyazo.com/bdb9a7a9c9722d1feffe7d02892311c1) (https://gyazo.com/dff8b89a097d606057725eb5d4d8a58e) (https://gyazo.com/8a4bfc5efc674be55c49055d4ed9e88d)
Because of this, we no longer feel it is worth hearing Cry's side of the story anymore and will release this without provocation.
Immediately before this, another victim (albeit less severe) showed that Cry said this (https://gyazo.com/bdd181885938142f25eb9df431bd1ba9). He went immediately from "I will not blame anyone for this" to "I will blame everyone but myself" in a matter of hours. He started drastically changing a couple of weeks ago and I don't know if it was related to medication or whatever. Suffice to say, he flips from 0 to 100 instantly and very frequently.
Regardless, let's go over the actual claim - that we all knew everything.
Only a few days ago, I began talking with a victim who can name themselves if they wish, and started learning the severity of the shit Cry has done. For the record, I personally have been consistent in admitting I knew at one point there was a screenshot of sexual roleplay text with a 16 year old. 6 or 7 years ago I begrudgingly accepted he had a cringey roleplay session with someone that, at least in Florida, would have been legal so I just let it go, assuming it to be a one time event. That was the one thing I knew of and had proof of. In hindsight, yeah, probably should haven't let that go, but I didn't really see any evidence of anything else happening. Still, I can easily apologize for accepting a creepy one-off situation and fully accept being ignorant in that regard. My knowledge of what grooming was that long ago was essentially nonexistent.
And that's pretty much what I knew involving issues that could be deemed illegal. I will not speak for the others as I'm not sure whether or not they had even seen the same screenshot. Obviously there were a slew of other things, some of which we learned at various times like the fact Cry fooled around with Russ's girlfriend. We put the decision to stay on Russ, who chose to stay out of a neccessity for quite literally, his life. Russ has explained why his home life was abysmal on his stream.
Additionally, I kept coming to Cry as I learned more things. I'll keep going, but this is already proof that not only did he keep things from us, but he would actively lie about the things we did confront him on and then try to justify them. (https://gyazo.com/ebc0c6c5753b47c5382f118e28c76404) As a strange side note, Cry responds that he is not aware of everything he's done, which is just a very weird statement.
Here is a victim saying we didn't know because it was covered up to us: https://gyazo.com/9fbce81fcf085a5564ab3da6e3fbbeab
The victim, Ocean, recently released this information himself.
I kept trying to follow up with Cry as I kept getting told more by victims but he kept ignoring all of us. He still responded to other friends and mods, a very consistent example of him talking to us the least out of everyone in the community. As of 6/25/2020 2:41PM, he still has not contacted a single one of us. (https://gyazo.com/71d0eb60fb48008ae7c00ab6e1c0f928)
Cheyenne told the group that she was cheated on with Ocean. I don't recall being there at the time, and according to Ocean he doesn't think I was there either: https://gyazo.com/d27f58d20893d8ed0ca2752fe6a8853e
Regardless, no ages were mentioned during this. We knew Ocean very briefly as I believe he was on Late Night a few times. None of us really spoke to Ocean outside of Late Night, as he later confirmed.
The only source we had for Cheyenne's age was Cheyenne herself, who lied about her own age. That's something I at least understand, as she wanted to protect cry and was undoubtedly being manipulated. That being said, the information we had on her age, untrue as it was, came literally from the person in question. Cheyenne has repeatedly admitted this on Twitter. Here she is defending her age being legal, and then defending the age of consent in Florida: https://gyazo.com/72a7a7cb64a9809ea5f7de41b8877f8c
I must re-iterate that just because she lied about her age doesn't mean she did something wrong there. While she can be a terrible person sometimes, she was still a victim too.
She would later condemn my ignorance to the screenshot situation due to it technically being legal (as far as I knew at the time) while simultaneously holding the same opinion of technical legality while she dated cry as a 17 year old. Again, I do not justify my ignorance.
Cheyenne also personally accused me of threatening her with falsifying data or some bullshit which never happened and of course there is no proof of (https://gyazo.com/1015a7ab308a6571750f8518803f8ca6). When I asked her about the evidence, she simply stopped responding.
Other than that, there is no other physical media I can show you, but I would hope what was shown here is more proof than the absolutely nothing Cry has put out.
I also want it to be clear, Cheyenne was a bad person. However, when I originally met her, I don't believe she was. It is extremely hard to be sympathetic to someone who so ritually attacks you and your friends, but her personality changed after being with Cry. Whether coincidental or not, I acknowledge it is certainly a possibility that her current behavior is related to what happened to her. Abusers tend to instill their abuse on other people. It is fair to say we feverently dislike Cheyenne and despite countless attacks on our characters, I still find it very hard to blame her for any of this because she was also misled. Her hatred for us being based on false information at the very least, justifies her anger in all of this. I feel none of that justifies colluding with your abuser, but do not shift focus away from the actual culprit in all of this. No one but Cry deserves blame, so leave her alone.
Cry is a spineless, disgusting coward. He tells people he will make no excuses, and blame no one but himself, only to hours later shift blame, when that does absolutely for the victims whatsoever. Recently he has told one of his victims that he still "loved them and was proud of them" which is just the weirdest fucking thing to say to a victim I can imagine. (https://gyazo.com/a2b0c020bfffa70a0bfebfb64a970f72) Cry has called himself a coward numerous, numerous times. Even if I had provided absolutely no evidence, it is so blatantly obvious from his personality he would never come close to having the strength to admit to us he engaged in sexual activities with minors, while grooming others. He didn't even tell us about relationships he was in. He lied about Angel, Red, Cheyenne, and countless other things. He doesn't have the spine to make a confession of ANY kind, much less one that is a felony. On top of all of that, we were barely friends, and it appears Cry actually actively disliked me personally. There is not a single convincing reason he would divulge any of this information to us.
Finally here, have this. I received it from a victim who we've been in contact with. https://gyazo.com/fd5978854f04ccdd91081524d5d9d8b1 "I didn't know they were underage." (his old phone number corresponded with the date)
Yeah, real trustworthy fucking guy. Thank you for bringing more stress upon us for absolutely nothing you piece of shit. Imagine fucking with your best friend's girl and lying about it, then taking his next girl and lying about it, then implicating him in your treachery by association, while lying about it. Even if Russ somehow knew literally everything, imagine STILL choosing to continue to be as evil as possible to him, with no regard for the actual victims. You shot him in the heart, then in the face, then shit on his corpse. Your heart is ice and you are beyond redemption. Go fuck yourself.
I apologize for the anger in my words. For all of the vctims we have been talking with and those who wish to justifiably not share their stories, we support you.
- Scott
(P.S, please refer to Snake's post about us going forward. (https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr9pp8) We are all ashamed to be associated with this and are disgusted with our ignorance about accusations. We intend to make every improvement listed in his comment. Thanks)
In the end of all this, the only one to take any action was Snake, claiming he's sent the information to "the proper parties".
The past six days have been a nightmare. Through all of the screaming and blaming and arguing on social media, all of it, one string has been plucking consistently in the midst of all the noise—at the end of the day, this happened on my watch. There’s no getting around that. Any content creator, artist, and streamer especially that comes into direct contact with their audience has a responsibility to their respective communities to keep them safe, and to keep each other safe. The hard truth of it is that not every sign can be seen, and not everyone is as they appear. That means, at least to me, that it’s on us to separate the proverbial wheat from the chaff.
The questions that’ve been wracking my brain for days now are: how do we even begin to do that? What does it even look like in a practical sense? How can we make things better? How can we be better? The news cycle surrounding the gaming industry as a whole has been swirling with account after account of abuse and predation, so my initial thought was that the industry—the system—is rotten, and it probably is. The more I think about it, though, the more it becomes apparent that systems are thought up, comprised of, and maintained by people. The only way that I can see right here and now to effectively change the larger scale is to directly address the smaller. So what does that look like?
-Normalize check-ins. Ask questions directly. Make sure people feel safe, especially if your demographic is typically at risk. If they don’t…
-Be ready to address issues and people. Not everyone is equipped either professionally or even mentally to handle the kinds of topics that may spring up—generally, creators aren’t trained therapists. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t anything that you can do. At minimum, compile a list of resources that people can use to get the assistance they need, and don’t be afraid to regulate your own community.
-Normalize sharing direct, concise, and clear information. Make no assumptions. This can be done while still protecting the identity and integrity of the victims. Be respectful, but be thorough.
-Recognize bias. Solidarity among friends, colleagues, associates, coworkers, etcetera should only go so far, and each relationship between individuals is unique. The side of someone that you’ve seen may not be and probably isn’t the same side that someone else has seen. Be mindful of that, and be ready to ask those people the hard questions. If you feel like you can’t, find someone who can.
-Take accusations seriously. Take accusations seriously. Take accusations seriously. This is different than taking them at face-value. Again, be thorough. Take accusations seriously.
Going forward, I intend to do all of these things myself, and I urge anyone in this industry and beyond to apply it to all of their social circles. We’re the only ones who can make the kinds of changes we need to see. This has been a nightmare for everyone involved, and it’s one that I personally would never like to have again.
Regarding Cryaotic, I’m currently in the process of compiling an official list of accounts from any and all parties that wish to be involved, either fully or anonymously, to pass on to the companies behind the platforms he has access to, in hopes that it will aid in them being able to make a definitive decision about his continued presence on them. It’ll be a process, so please give me a bit of time to make that happen and contact all necessary parties.
The questions that’ve been wracking my brain for days now are: how do we even begin to do that? What does it even look like in a practical sense? How can we make things better? How can we be better? The news cycle surrounding the gaming industry as a whole has been swirling with account after account of abuse and predation, so my initial thought was that the industry—the system—is rotten, and it probably is. The more I think about it, though, the more it becomes apparent that systems are thought up, comprised of, and maintained by people. The only way that I can see right here and now to effectively change the larger scale is to directly address the smaller. So what does that look like?
-Normalize check-ins. Ask questions directly. Make sure people feel safe, especially if your demographic is typically at risk. If they don’t…
-Be ready to address issues and people. Not everyone is equipped either professionally or even mentally to handle the kinds of topics that may spring up—generally, creators aren’t trained therapists. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t anything that you can do. At minimum, compile a list of resources that people can use to get the assistance they need, and don’t be afraid to regulate your own community.
-Normalize sharing direct, concise, and clear information. Make no assumptions. This can be done while still protecting the identity and integrity of the victims. Be respectful, but be thorough.
-Recognize bias. Solidarity among friends, colleagues, associates, coworkers, etcetera should only go so far, and each relationship between individuals is unique. The side of someone that you’ve seen may not be and probably isn’t the same side that someone else has seen. Be mindful of that, and be ready to ask those people the hard questions. If you feel like you can’t, find someone who can.
-Take accusations seriously. Take accusations seriously. Take accusations seriously. This is different than taking them at face-value. Again, be thorough. Take accusations seriously.
Going forward, I intend to do all of these things myself, and I urge anyone in this industry and beyond to apply it to all of their social circles. We’re the only ones who can make the kinds of changes we need to see. This has been a nightmare for everyone involved, and it’s one that I personally would never like to have again.
Regarding Cryaotic, I’m currently in the process of compiling an official list of accounts from any and all parties that wish to be involved, either fully or anonymously, to pass on to the companies behind the platforms he has access to, in hopes that it will aid in them being able to make a definitive decision about his continued presence on them. It’ll be a process, so please give me a bit of time to make that happen and contact all necessary parties.
As of today, Cry is still on twitter, but his Twitch account is suspended. His YouTube page is up, however, he has not posted anything since the accusations.
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The Dream fanbase also reminds me of Corpse's fanbase. There are a lot of similarities between the two, such as neither of them showing their faces. It seems to me like the anonymity has resulted in a lot of their fans making creepy snuff fan"art" of them. Granted, you can probably find that kind of stuff in most youtuber fanbases, but it seems like there is more for them. I would argue that the autistic fanart is more present in Corpse's fanbase, since as you so eloquently put it, "They simp over his edgelord aesthetic and GERD voice."
I'm surprised he hasn't been doxxed yet considering all the people that would probably pay good money for locks of his hair. If I had fans like his, I would want to sleep near my firearms.
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I find it funny how much reddit infested youtube comments. Like do people really feel some sort of validation whenever they see a bunch of likes on their comment and now feel obligated to -"wow, thanks for the likes!" Or writing "r/whoosh" on non reddit places like youtube?
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Like Reddit, you receive a notification for when you reach a like milestone (5, 10, 50 100, etc.), so my guess is that they feel obligated to say something about it when notified.
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CallMeCarson (mostly known for streaming Minecraft on the server SMPLive last year) has been accused of sexting underage girls by his friends Noah and Traves, who part of a group called "Lunch Club" together with Carson in the past that seems to have broken up (now speculated to be because of the underage sexting).
There sure are a lot of INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY REMEMBER PYROCYNICAL comments in reply to these allegations, even though Pyrocynical admitted to doing furry fetish RP with teenagers.
Might wanna note that someone started a joke about how Carson is going to jail (for stealing money from the aforementioned Lunch Club group) yesterday.
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Could care less about more allegations, I just don't get how Carson rose in fame so fast. He seems to just be another personification of modern """"postirony""", and these days people like him are a dime a dozen. It baffles me how this guy specifically garnered such a fanbase.
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I mostly know CallMeCarson as the guy whose girlfriend cheated on him. That being said, these allegations are weird as shit. Basically, the claim is that Carson confessed to engaging in sexually charged conversations with fans, in a multi-way call. Is there a recording of this call? Did he confess to sending pictures or just chatting? Who are these fans and what are their exact ages?
NGL, I'm getting minor Zaptie vibes from this...
NGL, I'm getting minor Zaptie vibes from this...
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You have to note that he kept his hands clean before all this. He was mostly noted as the victim. His meteoric rise to the top was in large part with his association with the likes of jschlatt, traves, and the rest of the 'Lunch Club' associated with minecraft, in which as you may know, is a conduit for popularity if you collab with the right people. Couple that with his 'wholesome' persona and his 'nice guy' attitude and you've got yourself CallMeCarson. It's also noted before his YouTube stardom, he amassed a gigantic following for being on the nose with some post-ironic humor on twitter.
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Do you guys think that these allegations against Carson make him worthy of a thread? Didn't MiniLadd get a thread because of his allegations and "apology"?
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On the one hand, it makes sense why they took so long. On the other hand, why release such a milquetoast statement on Daniel Keem's show?
However the case may be, it's shaping up to be Pyrocynical 2.0.
Noah a few hours or so before his appearance on the Keemstar show. (Cut off, but here's the link to the image here: https://archive.md/ksMB2/c31adcdff7691be176dbe14299935175cc96fda9.jpg)
Noah celebrating like he's the Arthurian King of Legend, slaying 'Carson King', I guess.
(Archive: https://archive.md/dT5tw)
Like, if you're going to be insufferable, at least be autistic enough to post enough evidence to slam this guy hard. This is literally shaping up to be another fucking ivory situation if there's no conclusive evidence.
Victims coming out of the woodwork now (note, Carson at this point was 19, and she was 17.)
(Archive: https://archive.md/foiT3)
Seems like a nothingburger for now, the most conclusive evidence is probably contained within the video of said victim scrolling through the DMs. That said, the timestamps date around March 2019, where the victim was said to be 17. Carson would be around 19, if his May 10, 1999 birthday is to be believed. A two year age gap? Nothing really to write home about.
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I've seen people on Twitter stating that 17 is legal in Indiana, Carson's state at the time. Not sure what state the girl was in, but eh.
It's not the best look, but at least the girl wasn't MASSIVELY below Carson's age with a two year age gap, it's still not great to continue chatting up someone under 18. I like Carson too, so it'll just be interesting to see how this plays out.
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Think it's another emboldened Ivory Rasmus type deal with this chick, though if Noah and Traves at least did their due diligence and bit the bullet, bringing at least some of the private conversation or at least snippets of the call where he said he admitted to grooming, that'd probably be the silver bullet. I'm just really tired of drama where it's all allegations and not solid proof. Why even speak out in the first place if you're just going to give a five minute sentence? It'll just give Carson more time to stack up a better defense than what Noah and Traves gave out.
I like Carson, but that's not relevant. So many YouTubers have used their clout to fish for their impressionable fans and I'm frankly tired about how across the board people seem to be movin' on up with Pyro, but somehow MiniLadd gets to get anally raped out of any credibility?
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This just all feels part of an unnecessary clout chasing trend recently. Are people really that bored during lockdown that they'll dredge this shit up to try and garner sympathy and attention when it's not justified?
Pyro I'm in two minds on, but Mini Ladd I can definitely see why his credibility and reputation have taken a huge toll.