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Should be a wild four years.

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When you have reached a point where the authority of the Nation is being resisted by force, the only response to fixing the issue is Force. More importantly, citizenship doesn't just give you rights, it also gives you duties. Chief among those duties is loyalty to the nation that you are a citizen of. If you are a naturalized citizen and are doing these things, you need to be De-Naturalized. If you have a green card it needs to be revoked, and if you have no right to be here at all you need to be made too leave.

A Nation cannot tolerate foreign peoples in its land waving the flags of their own countries on the soil of the host country. This adds a new and dangerous charachter to the unrest that is intensely dangerous, because it says the lawful government of that rules the land is the OTHER, and We, the Mexicans will fight the lawful government on behalf of our group, the Mexicans.

It is an implicit threat to the Americans, who are last I checked, the people who are in charge of that land. So yes, A House Divided Cannot Stand. If you are an American you either get with the program and help your countrymen get these invaders out of our country, or you are a part of the problem.
Listened to this during work. I don't think it will go that far tbh, though i don't think he's wrong either. The spic's need to get with the fucking program or leave, citizen or no. If you ARE a citizen, you have officially given up Mexico for America. They are niggers now. You have no loyalty to them. Why should we tolerate this shit? You either are a citizen or you aren't. Choose the country you love and pick one.
 
From yesterday:
A man in the anti-ICE crowd rushed towards an LAPD officer with a pepper ball gun and gets lit up with pepper balls and hit with a baton before running away.



Footage of this incident was posted earlier in the thread but here it is from another angle.
 
I've actually been wondering how much of an influence Disney's Star Wars has had on leftists since those movies started coming out in 2015. It really feels to me like the leftists started seeing themselves as "Rebels" and Republicans as "Empire" after they went and saw The Force Awakens in 2015, they all think they are Andor or Ray or something. I'm not even joking either, I think Disney Star Wars is at least partially to blame for amping up leftists to start political violence all the time. The new Andor show was literally propaganda about Empire = Israel/USA vs Palestine = Rebellion, where the Rebels literally wear towels on their head and riot about being illegal immigrants on Empire planets even though that doesn't make any sense in Star Wars.

These people literally think they are Ray from Star Wars defeating Kylo Ren's Empire.
Star Wars is a modern mythology. (Much ironically as Lucas intended). It provides a moral and imaginative vocabulary for a lot of people.

Andor in particular is basically a show about left wing revolution in tandem with liberal reformist/entryism against fascists that are treated as ruthless but also pathetic minions of the machine.

It’s not surprising that it fits in their world view.

You may laugh and say Redditor or “read a history book”-but in a way this is very normal. Most people don’t base their politics on some deep informed study of historical exigencies and minutia-they get it from myths, from morality plays, from narratives. Humans are narrative and meaning seeking creatures. Rational debate over dates and historiography is alienating and frustrating to most people.

But fiction provides a symbolic format in which ideas and moral lessons may be encoded or absorbed. That speaks to people at a primal level far more effectively than a history lecture.
 
We never lost in Afganastan. We left. We also wiped out Saddam's regime and installed a puppet government. We won Iraq from a military perspective. We don't lose wars. You're a faggot. You're a faggot for bringing this up when illigeals are invading our country and the military are being used to deal with them for good for once.
Honestly we could've stayed in Iraq and Afghanistan forever if we really wanted, the issue is with with morale and public opinion. The real problem with the U.S when it comes to wars is not our martial capabilities but rather why we fight them. Afghanistan should've been a quick and easy thing to kill Osama bin Laden and punish the Taliban for harboring him while Iraq shouldn't have even been fought as Saddam provided a bulwark against both Salafi jihadism and Iranian influence.
 
Can you tell me what the difference between "you're" and "your" is?

I'm not saying that you're wrong because of grammar mistakes; I actually haven't read your posts. I'm responding in this way because I'm registering your obstinate unwillingness to spell properly as a form of aesthetic warfare.

We don't have to tolerate your ugliness. It degrades us corporately. That's part of the theme of this immigration issue.
 
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