🐮 Lolcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / Russell Greee / Russle / Brothel Prince / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

I'm very much not a lawyer, but wtf difference does it make to the legal case if Russ spent hours working out what 'clef' (learn music before you attempt write it) each note belonged to? What difference do any of his tragicomic drama paragraphs have on the legal arguments the case is based on? Isn't all this detail something for the court room, and not the actual case filing? I thought this document should be a statement of exactly which laws Russ thinks Taylor has broken, with perhaps a brief example as to why. Are these types of documents typically filled to the brim with every detail the plaintiff can remember about the alleged crime?

 

[talk talk talk]

I'm very much not a lawyer, but wtf difference does it make to the legal case if Russ spent hours working out what 'clef' (learn music before you attempt write it) each note belonged to? What difference do any of his tragicomic drama paragraphs have on the legal arguments the case is based on? Isn't all this detail something for the court room, and not the actual case filing? I thought this document should be a statement of exactly which laws Russ thinks Taylor has broken, with perhaps a brief example as to why. Are these types of documents typically filled to the brim with every detail the plaintiff can remember about the alleged crime?

Nope.

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 8:

(a) Claim for Relief. A pleading that states a claim for relief must contain:

(1) a short and plain statement of the grounds for the court's jurisdiction, unless the court already has jurisdiction and the claim needs no new jurisdictional support;

(2) a short and plain statement of the claim showing that the pleader is entitled to relief; and

(3) a demand for the relief sought, which may include relief in the alternative or different types of relief.​

Pretty much the opposite of what Russ has written.

Sometimes with shitty pleadings, there are solid allegations buried in the pile of shit. But there just aren't any in Russ's complaint. He never identifies the specific statements made by Taytay to him upon which he relied. He never identifies which statements were false. He never identifies the "intellectual property" that somehow caused him harm. He never identifies what needed to be "disclaimed". In short, he doesn't state a claim at all.

 

[RebatsivePulsard]

Nope.

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure 8:

(a) Claim for Relief. A pleading that states a claim for relief must contain:

(1) a short and plain statement of the grounds for the court's jurisdiction, unless the court already has jurisdiction and the claim needs no new jurisdictional support;

(2) a short and plain statement of the claim showing that the pleader is entitled to relief; and

(3) a demand for the relief sought, which may include relief in the alternative or different types of relief.​

Pretty much the opposite of what Russ has written.

Sometimes with shitty pleadings, there are solid allegations buried in the pile of shit. But there just aren't any in Russ's complaint. He never identifies the specific statements made by Taytay to him upon which he relied. He never identifies which statements were false. He never identifies the "intellectual property" that somehow caused him harm. He never identifies what needed to be "disclaimed". In short, he doesn't state a claim at all.

And that’s exactly what the judge told Shit T. Lips when dismissing the small claims suit against TS. The dude is so exceptional, he can’t learn from his own failure.

 

[RustyNail(her)]

If he gets hit with legal fees can we expect a violent reaction?

Has he paid the fees from the Grande trial? I bet that shit stings. $1500 coulda gotten him some hooker time.

 

[Viridian]

I’m sure “Taylor Swift’s people” will understand and fork over the 10 million dollars no questions asked.

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This post by Russhole seems to indicate that his request to have his filing fees waived has not been approved yet. He assumes it will be, obviously, but there's still a hope the judge or her clerk or whoever reviews in forma pauperis petitions will compare that form to his case filing, realize he lied and left information out of his claimed income, and deny it. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

A question for the Kiwis in the legal field: from what I understand, even though Russhole has allegedly emailed "Taylor's people" about the case, the clock doesn't start ticking on their response until they are formally served with his lawsuit, right? I'm guessing that would be why he was complaining about a PI he was trying to hire as a process server, because that's not something the court will do for him?

Has he paid the fees from the Grande trial? I bet that shit stings. $1500 coulda gotten him some hooker time.

Oh, I'm sure Russhole hasn't paid a dime. Because that wasn't a REAL judge, and he was mean and hostile and 'bias' anyways, so it doesn't count or something (in Russhole's head). I kinda wish Skordas would pursue him for the cash, get a collection agency involved or whatever. Someone needs to put the screws to Rusty so he actually faces consequences from his frivolous filings.

 

[XxxwernxxX]

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This was one of my favourite parts. "Having to determine which clef the note belonged to" on a piano is beyond exceptional. And as for the duration of each note- they're all 8ths. He tries to make it sound like he worked so hard on it when it literally takes a minute to do this. Also, 4/8 for the time signature? View attachment 438177Also, when listing the parties- he says Swift is a year and a half older than Greer. It sounds like a highschool kid lusting over some girl a grade above him.

And this- "some gifts were impressively knitted quilts, while others were cheap subway gift cards"

I thought that was exceptional as well, but the piano on his desk thing annoys me for some reason. I mean, we can all deduce that he means keyboard, but still.

While I'm on that subject, can he even read music? I imagine if he had to figure out which clef the notes go on, he may not know which note it is, either.

 

[Supreme Sundae]

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This was one of my favourite parts. "Having to determine which clef the note belonged to" on a piano is beyond exceptional. And as for the duration of each note- they're all 8ths. He tries to make it sound like he worked so hard on it when it literally takes a minute to do this. Also, 4/8 for the time signature? View attachment 438177Also, when listing the parties- he says Swift is a year and a half older than Greer. It sounds like a highschool kid lusting over some girl a grade above him.

And this- "some gifts were impressively knitted quilts, while others were cheap subway gift cards"

What I love is how often he talks about how long this ~90 seconds of pure cringe took him to accomplish. Two years and this is the fruit of that labor. If he thinks that this song is what would have gotten his foot in the door with Tay-tay and benefited from her influence had the song been given to her, the delusion is too damn high. A songwriter who takes two years to turn out something this mediocre is never going to land a job with someone of Rebecca Black's caliber, much less someone like Taylor.

 

[CrowleysCambion95]

Collection agency.......


That's why Russ is desperate for money right now and why he's had trouble keeping a job. I think the collection agency is garnishing his wages.

 

[Slick Bridges]

That's why Russ is desperate for money right now and why he's had trouble keeping a job.

While it seems the specifics can vary by region (legal Kiwis please correct me if I'm wrong) my understanding is Skordas should have been paid by Grande's camp regardless, and it is she who is technically owed the attorney's fees to compensate for what she had to pay. I'm guessing were she actively pursuing him for the $1500 we would be hearing about it constantly as yet another way in which he is being victimized, not to mention it would be crazy of her to purposefully involve herself with him further for such a piddly amount. Even at two or three times the price it's not worth it to her. The same would go for Skordas if he is in fact the one left holding the bag on the last suit.

Being a terrible worker with major psychological problems and a hooker addiction is more than enough to explain his finances/employment history.

Edited to correct case.

 

[NobleGreyHorse]

While I'm on that subject, can he even read music? I imagine if he had to figure out which clef the notes go on, he may not know which note it is, either.

This is a guy who thinks that quilts are knitted. I wouldn't bet on his being even a beginner-level music theorist.

 

[XxxwernxxX]

Collection agency.......


That's why Russ is desperate for money right now and why he's had trouble keeping a job. I think the collection agency is garnishing his wages.

While it seems the specifics can vary by region (legal Kiwis please correct me if I'm wrong) my understanding is Skordas should have been paid by Taylor's camp regardless, and it is she who is technically owed the attorney's fees to compensate for what she had to pay. I'm guessing were Taylor Swift actively pursuing him for the $1500 we would be hearing about it constantly as yet another way in which he is being victimized by her, not to mention it would be crazy of her to purposefully involve herself with him further for such a piddly amount. Even at two or three times the price it's not worth it to her. The same would go for Skordas if he is in fact the one left holding the bag on the last suit.

Being a terrible worker with major psychological problems and a hooker addiction is more than enough to explain his finances/employment history.

IANAL, just a numbers guy, and I can't imagine a collection agency getting in on this shit simply because it's not worth it.

Unless it was bundled with other debt and sold off (like one of a bunch of defaulted bank loans or credit cards), it doesn't make sense to get a collection agency involved. It's not enough money. Unless Skordas or someone he's close with has an agency (possible), and just wanted to fuck with our friend here, there's no reason. It's not enough money.

TLR, I can't imagine that either Skordas or Swift has enough bad debt to bundle and sell to get a collection agency involved, but hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Even if Taylor had 'disclaimers' Russ would assume that they didn't apply to HIM and his special efforts. He has shown himself entirely unable to learn in this regard, so even if his case had a point he hasn't suffered any actual damages since he'd be exactly where he is now.

Still, I'm a little annoyed that I ended up busy this week but I said I'd drop a balloon if he actually filed- at least partly because I doubted he'd actually do it. I like being proven wrong if it means this sort of entertainment

I'm very much not a lawyer, but wtf difference does it make to the legal case if Russ spent hours working out what 'clef' (learn music before you attempt write it) each note belonged to? What difference do any of his tragicomic drama paragraphs have on the legal arguments the case is based on? Isn't all this detail something for the court room, and not the actual case filing? I thought this document should be a statement of exactly which laws Russ thinks Taylor has broken, with perhaps a brief example as to why. Are these types of documents typically filled to the brim with every detail the plaintiff can remember about the alleged crime?

He's supposed to identify the tort in question- how Taylor legally wronged him- but because he really does think lawsuits are like 'duels' where a party that feels aggrieved has standing regardless of actual law, he just blathers about his feelings with a few bits of legalese sprinkled in there (usually in a way that makes no sense). As others pointed out, since he says the song is a "gift" right in the text none of his effort to produce it is material to a claim. You can't hand someone a gift and then claim they owe you legally.

I guess that just means this recent argument is as legally meritorious and relevant as his previous ones.

 

[theshep]

I wonder whatever ever happened to Time Magazine retracting Taylor Swift as Person of the Year? Remember that shtick he was going on with a while back?

I bet it's on the pile of other shit he was going to achieve.

Russell G. Greer. The G Isn't for Godfrey, it's for Gonna.

Russell Gonna Greer.

 

[Dangerhair]

IANAL, just a numbers guy, and I can't imagine a collection agency getting in on this shit simply because it's not worth it.

Unless it was bundled with other debt and sold off (like one of a bunch of defaulted bank loans or credit cards), it doesn't make sense to get a collection agency involved. It's not enough money. Unless Skordas or someone he's close with has an agency (possible), and just wanted to fuck with our friend here, there's no reason. It's not enough money.

TLR, I can't imagine that either Skordas or Swift has enough bad debt to bundle and sell to get a collection agency involved, but hopefully I'm wrong.

As for garnishing, I'm not familiar with UT regulations, but isn't his income so low it can't be garnished anyway?

The fact that he's barely one step above NFA would make it even harder to collect and all but certainly not worth it. Even the most persistent creditors know you can't get blood from a stone.

 

[talk talk talk]

The unpaid sanctions award is also good leverage. While it is not technically relevant, if the federal case survives IFP review, I bet a reference to "Plaintiff's unpaid sanctions in the amount of $1,500" shows up in everything filed by Taytay. Judges hate people who blow off court orders and don't pay sanctions.

 

[XxxwernxxX]

As for garnishing, I'm not familiar with UT regulations, but isn't his income so low it can't be garnished anyway?

The fact that he's barely one step above NFA would make it even harder to collect and all but certainly not worth it. Even the most persistent creditors know you can't get blood from a stone.

AFAIK, federal law limits it to 25% of your net income (after taxes, etc.), but states can limit it more, e.g., exempting the first $X, or something along those lines. I have no idea what limits Utah has in place, but they're not very socially progressive, so I suspect that they just go along with the feds.

I just know that anywhere I've ever worked wouldn't bother going after $1500 unless that creditor REALLY pisssed somebody off. I don't know Skordas (obviously), but he seems a reasonable sort of person, and I doubt he's desperate for cash, plus, as mentioned about, an unpaid judgment could be useful against Rusty, which is why I'm leaning towards it just sitting on the back burner.

 

[Kugelsak Kastengrus 6th]

AFAIK, federal law limits it to 25% of your net income (after taxes, etc.), but states can limit it more, e.g., exempting the first $X, or something along those lines. I have no idea what limits Utah has in place, but they're not very socially progressive, so I suspect that they just go along with the feds.

I just know that anywhere I've ever worked wouldn't bother going after $1500 unless that creditor REALLY pisssed somebody off. I don't know Skordas (obviously), but he seems a reasonable sort of person, and I doubt he's desperate for cash, plus, as mentioned about, an unpaid judgment could be useful against Rusty, which is why I'm leaning towards it just sitting on the back burner.

Skordas did seem a bit miffed at the idea of Rusty e-stalking his daughter. Especially if he included that in the Ariana Grande lawsuit. But all in all, that IOU does seem to have a purpose in the near future. It could be used against Rusty in the Swift case, or Skordas can bring it up if Rusty decides to get creepy with his daughter again.

 

[DuckSucker]

While I'm on that subject, can he even read music? I imagine if he had to figure out which clef the notes go on, he may not know which note it is, either.

Apparently not. There are only 7 notes, A to G, and two clefs, treble and base. Any of the notes can belong on either "clef" because their position on either grand staff in notation only represents how high or low the note is, generally.

He's just flailing to try and claim damages or something I think.

 

[SwiftlyRuiningRussell]

Ramping up the stalker-ish antics after filing a federal lawsuit will surely end in Russell’s favor. What could go wrong?

ETA- Kiwi lawyers...In a real lawsuit, isn’t the plaintiff told to stay off of social media, and warned to absolutely not contact the defendant?

 

[Whatthefuck]

Ramping up the stalker-ish antics after filing a federal lawsuit will surely end in Russell’s favor. What could go wrong?

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ETA- Kiwi lawyers...In a real lawsuit, isn’t the plaintiff told to stay off of social media, and warned to absolutely not contact the defendant?

Well, you'd think his dumbfuck exceptional ass would've learned from being read to filth by the judge in the Ariana Grande case for the same exceptional shit. The only thing he knows less about than the law is music. It's painful to watch him talk about it when he clearly has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. How are you going to make it in the music biz if you can't even read a fake book. Fucking hell. It took 2 years to write 90 seconds of music. First year composition students are expected to present fully orchestrated pieces in 1-3 months. Why in hell does he think he can make it in music when he's clearly never studied it?