Christian theology thread for Christians - Deus homo factus est naturam erante, mundus renovatus est a Christo regnante

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Sissyagamben

Sissyagamben

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I couldn't find a thread for discussion of Christian theology for Christians. I want a thread where we can talk about it without reddit atheism. There are many things happening in the world, and I want a place for Christians to talk about them in their religious context. Let this be Kiwi's Youth Group frens!

We can talk about real world stuffs
For example:
- LGBTQ
- End of the World and Antichrist
- Politics
- Secularism

And of course, the good stuffs. Faith Hope Charity Grace the Spirit and Jesus Christ :)

As suggested by @YourFreindlyLurker 2.0,
Lets not forget about the actual theological questions like:
1) Predestination. Do you accept predestination? In what form?
2) Trinity. How do you personally understand the concept of the Trinity? What trinity means for you? Do you think Christianity even needed Trinity as a concept in the first place?
3) Theodicea. Why evil exists? Why God allows evil to exist if he is omnipotent? Is the endlosung for evil even possible?
4) The concepts of heaven and hell. How do you envision those "places"? Do you believe in the individual salvation or immortality of one individual soul?
5) Do you think Christianity should be centralized or not? Do Christians need a Pope or a Patriarch
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If you want to have the debate on if God is real, there's already a thread about it. No need to tell us religion is dumb.
Christian Theodicy welcomed, so are slap fights about heresy. Open to all denominations, yes, even the Protestants.

Lemme start:

What news or info did you see that immediately made you think it's the forces of the antichrist?
For me it's a pooner "christian priest" saying Audrey Hale being shot by the cop is exactly just like when Jesus got crucified guise. I wonder if we as a species have ever reached this level of blatant blasphemy before.
 
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It's a theology thre-

For example:
- LGBTQ
- End of the World and Antichrist
- Politics
- Secularism
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Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
A Calvinist from Scotland.
That’s basically it. Same religious movement as the Congregationalists (Puritans, Anglo-Saxon), Huguenots (French), and the Dutch and Swiss Reformed.

Like all old Calvinists they’re boring.
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It's more about church government than being scottish.
 
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Sissyagamben said:
Lemme start:

What news or info did you see that immediately made you think it's the forces of the antichrist?
For me it's a pooner "christian priest" saying Audrey Hale being shot by the cop is exactly just like when Jesus got crucified guise. I wonder if we as a species have ever reached this level of blatant blasphemy before.
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Of course we have, but that was when we were still in the habit of chucking infants into open bonfires to keep the bad times away. Considering that Christ's sacrifice was the one to end all sacrifice I wonder what diminishing that spiritual touchstone might be. I really don't want us to collectively lose that and for Girard to be right about human sacrifice and it's origin in conflict spirals.
 
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My pitch for Presbyterianism is my simplest take on it, but yeah, each Anglo-American branch of early Protestantism references it’s structure.

Epsicopalianism (Anglicanism) has an authoritarian top down professional church like Catholicism, but subordinated to the state. Lutheranism could be considered small e episcopal, I’d think.

Presbyterianism is government by elected body.

Congregationalism is decentralized (no central organization) elected churches.

It happened that English Calvinists mostly were Congregationalists and Scottish Calvinists were mostly Presbyterians.

In America I think you could probably describe things like the Southern Baptist Convention as small p presbyterian. There’s meetings of churches to try and coordinate them but it’s more of a voluntary thing than it is a capital c Church giving itself spiritual monopoly. A glance at Wikipedia suggests continental Calvinism was mostly presbyterian too.

Presbyterians are stereotypically grim and severe people, stodgy.
 
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Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
Like all old Calvinists they’re boring.
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If I'm not mistaken there is one thing about them that isn't boring and it's that the minister sometimes sing-talks in a shakey falsetto instead of reading a Bible verse that very obviously was not structured to be sung in English. I could also be thinking of another denomination, but I'm pretty sure it was Presbyterian...
 
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Agent Sandoval said:
If I'm not mistaken there is one thing about them that isn't boring and it's that the minister sometimes sing-talks in a shakey falsetto instead of reading a Bible verse that very obviously was not structured to be sung in English. I could also be thinking of another denomination, but I'm pretty sure it was Presbyterian...
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I believe I’ve heard that done in a Lutheran service. Cantillation is what they call it in Judaism when they recite the Hebrew as it was ended, epic poetry. All high Churches that use chanting do the same thing. I don’t remember the name but I’m certain Lutherans do it and it wouldn’t shock me if other mainline Protestants do as well.
 
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Feefee81093 said:
Who is the antichrist going to be? I used to think it was Vincent Mcman.
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The antichrist is going to be a person of Jewish descent (because the Jews will recognize him as the Messiah, who is required to be a descendant of King David. Of course, it's actually Jesus but the Antichrist will also be descended from King David) and someone that will rebuild the Third Temple. There's a lot of signs that haven't happened yet for it to truly be the End Times, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't keep watch nor should you ignore the importance of loving God above all things and loving your neighbor as yourself.
 
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I am starting to consider that the antichrist will not be one individual but is actually the entire leftest movement or the cabal currently influencing all world events, with this trans shit being the point of the spear with environmental lunacy being up there as well. All of this evil around us is being pushed as the good and correct thing to do for our benefit which is what the antichrist is supposed to do.
 
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Agent Sandoval said:
Of course we have, but that was when we were still in the habit of chucking infants into open bonfires to keep the bad times away.
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For Paul Christ replaces the Torah, and once that happened Torah is death, I’d think it would be worse if the child sacrifice are made 2k years after Christ than it was 600BC or sth. Even then it was already BAD. Before Christ the God of Israel already said NO, I’d think not many of them would say “aha this child sacrifice is done in the name of the God of Israel.”
Virago Esteemer said:
The antichrist is going to be a person of Jewish descent (because the Jews will recognize him as the Messiah, who is required to be a descendant of King David. Of course, it's actually Jesus but the Antichrist will also be descended from King David) and someone that will rebuild the Third Temple. There's a lot of signs that haven't happened yet for it to truly be the End Times, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't keep watch nor should you ignore the importance of loving God above all things and loving your neighbor as yourself.
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I think they are already building the Third Temple in Israel, lol. I’m soooo like curious how the top Jews can so comfortable doing every worst thing God told them they’ll get punished for, and think the Third Temple they are building is not gonna suffer the wrath of God. Like come on, “love the wage of the prostitutes”? While biggest porn websites owned by Jews. I’m pretty sure God of Israel specifically said no… Very intriguing, I personally would’ve been more low key with my dirty prostitution money. Build Israel? Yeah sure buy some guns whatever. Build the Third Temple? Nah

Ok I checked, they are not actually building the temple, but preparing things that will be used in the temple when it’s built. This is what they say
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Another choice quote:
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I think that’s what Jesus is for
 
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Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
Lutheranism could be considered small e episcopal, I’d think.
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In the united states:

ELCA Lutheranism has degenerated into insanity and paganism. For doubters, take a look at at herchurch.

The Missouri Synod Lutherans are still hanging on and WELS (Wisconsin Synod) is less crazy conservative than they used to be.

I wouldn't consider any of them "episcopal" at least in the United States.
 
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Sissyagamben said:
Open to all denominations, yes, even the Protestants
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NON-DENOM PRESENT!
Though I’m mostly “Protestant” minus the stupid. (Close to it anyhow)

I’m guessing you don’t mean Mormons, but some Catholics are borderline.

Sissyagamben said:
For me it's a pooner "christian priest" saying Audrey Hale being shot by the cop is exactly just like when Jesus got crucified guise.
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Do you have a link for this? I haven’t seen it but I’m intrigued

Strix454 said:
ELCA Lutheranism has degenerated into insanity and paganism. For doubters, take a look at at herchurch.
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Once dated a Lutheran woman; that was wildin’. She wasn’t even part of the whack Lutherans but I’m convinced there’s an unhealthy (mindset wise) baseline in Lutheran doctrine.

It’s weird because it’s like the Catholics have the Pope and they have Luther.
Even though I’m not sure how much Luther would appreciate that.
 
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