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Timothy Nathan Shortnacy / Devi Ever / Amber Coal / Grace Lynn / Pixelgoth / LittleMouseVR - Scammer and flip-flopper who can't commit to a career and drove Chloe Sagal to suicide.
REVIVING THE DEVI EVER TOPIC : COMPLETE TRANNY MELTDOWN EDITION
So Devi wiped her Twitter again and declared her intent to never make gear pedals again, given the crushing, impossible debt she is now straddled with:
tl;dr, I'm broke as fuck, my last transgirlfriend left me cause I'm such a manicpanictranny, Chloe Sagal was my acquaintance that burned herself and no one cared, also trans people are literally being hunted and murdered by the gubbermint. so btw if I owe you money I don't have shit so don't even sue me
Hot take from her apparent ex-girlfriend. Raine is the ex-girlfriend's daughter she had while pre-op
EDIT: Someone apparently sent Sargon of Akkad a superchat today asking them to google search Devi Ever drama. For some reason. Like there's any overlap. Carl didn't bite.
Every time I hear of Devi Ever I keep thinking of his feud with Billy Corgan and it's funny because he just got James Iha back in his band while Devi Ever is shitting himself on social media.
Every time I hear of Devi Ever I keep thinking of his feud with Billy Corgan and it's funny because he just got James Iha back in his band while Devi Ever is shitting himself on social media.
It's hard to know who was in the right on that, because Billy Corgan is a mammoth douchebag, but Devi Ever is an insane troon. Probably they were both wrong.
Not really because its not that detailed either. Someone could write a more proper OP and it would be moved to be the OP of this thread, and her original post would then be under it.
Not really because its not that detailed either. Someone could write a more proper OP and it would be moved to be the OP of this thread, and her original post would then be under it.
There are certain cows that go beyond, Kiwis.
Devi Ever, also going by the handles Amber Coal, Grace Lynn, and her Twitter Handle, Pixelgoth is a troon like none other. It is a rare cow that is not content to simply involve themselves in the Autism Holy War, e-drama, or Rat King. It is likewise uncommon to find one unhappy with simply Trooning out, failing miserably and scamming people multiple times.
Doing all of the above and more while also being a self-aggrandizing shrieking idiot who constantly pitches online temper-tantrums to avoid e-criticism, however, puts one in a class above. It takes a rare talent for all sides involved in Gamergate to put aside their differences and decide you are a target worth mocking, but that is the caliber of cow we're discussing today. With a reputation that proceeds her for good reason and litany of former friends and associates who describe her, at best, as a sociopath.
@Devi Ever, who joined the Farms in one of her numerous scams, is a unique breed. Dramacow, Careercow, and Rat King all describe her in equal measure, as you will soon see. While many members of the Rat King are fraudsters, often even gigantic fraudsters (like Kiva Bay), Ever is by far one of the worst - if not the worst - and has been blacklisted from virtually every crowdfunding site as a result. When people talk about the terrible reputation crowdfunding has as a whole, Ever is a walking, talking, sperging example of why it's a shit-show. She's also a fucking terrible human being, but I'll get to that.
Ever's adventures in crowdfunding began after an initially successful project several years back in 2003. In the aftermath of this, having some money left over, Ever apparently hit upon the cynical and morally reprehensible scheme of crowdfunding a project, then simply pocketing the cash and never delivering on it. Traditionally, she does this by, at the zero hour, changing all her contact information to complete garbage and trying to drop off the internet, assuming a new identity, and then starting this shit all over again.
Ever tries to justify her shit.
To help foster these campaigns, Ever goes out of her way to cozy up to a community that she thinks will show gratitude for her work and then try to solicit that community to spread around her crowdfunding campaigns and pay her bills. When the inevitable happens, and a community finds out who she is and what she's known for, she has a complete meltdown, deletes fucking everything, and assumes yet another identity, only to move on to try to milk some other special interest group or community on the internet. Lather, Rinse, Repeat, Retarded.
While Ever first pulled this shit with the music community, she got over $41,000, which she then claims immediately spent almost entirely on paying outstanding debts, though many think she spent it on herself (we may never know for sure). She would then proceed to use Kickstarter and Gofundme almost fifteen fucking times over the course of the last five years, including emergency surgery for her cat, vaginoplasty, and more. Each time Ever would get caught pulling this shit, and a community would get wise to her tactics, she would delete her Twitter, change her username, and start the process all over again. Ever's initial chimp-outs were big enough to draw a few Lolcow chronicleers even at this early phase, but it would be some time before the full breadth of her Lolcowdom would surface.
If you're not familiar with GG, pulling the Homer approach and attacking Anti-GGers directly was a surefire way to get your account shut down. Assuming you weren't banned for pissing off say, Brianna Wu (and Ever did; we'll get to that in a bit), you could count on GG supporters reporting you for being an asshole.
Ever chose her targets carefully, never going after anyone too high-profile, but GG supporters started to notice a pattern: Not only was she pulling these attacks, but she was somehow getting time during GG streams and events as if she was someone important. When she began trying to tone-police GGers, that's when a few alarm bells rang, since that shit's what a lot of false-flag attempts by the Anti-GGers tried to do.
GG's more paranoid Autists fired up their weaponized Autism, and started digging into Ever's past. Almost immediately, the GGers hit upon the very same information those first Chronicleers from ED and company did: That she was a repeat-offending scam-artist who just announced a new crowdfunding project for a game she was working on, and had solicited GG to donate to it and her Patreon. Unfortunately for Ever, this was pretty much exactly when she was outed by the Autists of GG, and her response was to flee GG, claiming they had harassed her by bringing up her previous scam history.
Part Two - Anti-Gamergate:
Anti-Gamergate has a long and rather glorious tradition of propping up crowdfunding cheats, like Kiva Bay, Zoe Quinn, and Anita Sarkeesian herself, so one might imagine that in such a field of winners, Devi Ever would do just fine. If that's what you thought, however, you did not reckon with how much of a colossal fuck-up Ever is.
One of the first things Ever did now that she was firmly in the Anti-GG camp was attempt to get them to signal boost her latest crowdfunding operations. Some, like Jake Alley, did so immediately, but one of the biggest and lulziest fish in the pond, Brianna Wu, saw through what Ever was immediately and fucking refused to even pay her any mind. Even worse: Wu purportedly warned other big names in Anti-GG in turn, who promptly cut off Ever's avenues of egress. In very little time, the Anti-GGers had also outed Ever was a scam-artist, and Ever was fucking pissed - not only were the original chronicleers on ED and friends and the GGers covering her, but now so were parts of Anti-GG, and while some of the more autistic voices in the latter would still go to bat for her, the rest saw her for what she was. Ever's response was anything but graceful; she wound up using a certain individual, now infamous on the Farms, as her personal attack dog, winding her up and turning her against Brianna Wu.
That person was Chloe Sagal.
For the uninitiated: Chloe Sagal was a tragic transgendered lolcow who was seriously, dangerously mentally ill, and wound up immolating herself to death in early 2018, citing the complete lack of support she had recieved from the LGBT community as the reason for it. During GG, Chloe became notorious for frothing, psychotic meltdowns targeting Brianna Wu specifically, in which she sent Wu multiple death threats on her Patreon and wound up getting systemically deplatformed by the Rat King for refusing to ratchet things back. There is a credible argument to be made that it was Ever who turned Sagal on to try to get Wu to help signal boost her IndieGogo campaign, and subsequently led Wu to do the logical thing and refuse to help, in turn leading to Sagal's decaying orbit.
When both repeatedly went after Wu, they further made themselves persona non grata in Anti-GG circles, and within a few short months, Ever had deleted fucking everything and was preparing to begin the con again, leaving Sagal to face the fallout on her own.
Part Three - Notch:
Okay, pretend that you're @Devi Ever for a moment. Your multiple crowdfunding attempts have failed because the word's getting out about your exploits. Your efforts over the last few months to gain the support, admiration, and most importantly, money of special-interest groups have, so far, failed on every fundamental level. "Oh, the crowdfunding cheat?" Is the most common response given when people are asked about you, if they even remember your name at all, in the many desperate attempts you make to figure out where the fuck you may have gone wrong.
You ultimately decide that you're gonna blame everything on vidya. Especially Notch. So, apropos of nothing, you go to Notch, tell him he doesn't deserve his success, and demand $100,000 in order to pay your bills, at which point you are suprised when he tells you to fuck off and go panhandle someplace else. You then respond with a video entitled "The Day Notch Killed Me," in which you chimp out and try to shame him into it by repeatedly accusing him of Ableism, only to try to claim later that you didn't mean any of it:
Suffice to say this does not work and you become more of a laughingstock.
Part Four - Kiwi Farms:
You're in this thread, so you already have an idea how this turned out, but honestly that description does not even hold a candle to how fucking amazing this one panned out in real time: Namely, that Devi started her own thread here on the Farms. This was especially surreal because Devi supported the forum, and was originally somewhat well-received, after admitting the Kiwis might not be so bad.
There wasn't really anything glaring that jumped out at first, some minor GG sperging here and there, leaning pro- or anti- as the thread progressed. In fact, the thread was closer to a marginally-interesting AMA than an actual Lolcow thread for a while. It was very clear, however, that more was going on, right under the surface. Many suspected something was gonna brew up soon, and good god, did it.
In truth, Ever had made an account on ED some time ago, either to ingratiate herself with them, or, more likely, under the assumption that she could trollshield herself. ED being what they are, they immediately dug up her history, doxed her, and and Devi came to the Farms to try to build up support to play the Kiwi Farms and ED against one another. To put it mildly, it didn't fucking work, and you can watch the nonsense begin on Page 13.
Soonafter, her pattern of scams was discussed at length in her thread. Rani had some especially cutting words, bringing up that Ever was a duplicitous prick who could and would sell out anyone to save her own ass, as was seen during the Chloe Sagal saga. She quickly sank back onto Twitter, where she would try to keep this shit going, only to have more and more of her scams exposed, one by one.
Part Six - Conclusion:
Devi Ever is a fucking Icarus Flight of the most legendary kind - a sort of super-cow that crosses party lines and genres in her quest to grift, to the point where almost every community that she's ever run across mocks her for entirely justified reasons. Her addiction to attention, aversion to any kind of actual work, and thin shreds of actual talent combine to form this bizarre self-feeding mechanism where she tries to keep the illusion going like she always has, but now that people can see the proverbial strings, she's been blacklisted by many crowdfunding sites, and the litany of friends and associates she's backstabbed leaves a trail of wreckage stretching back as long as she's used Social Media, with no amount of identity swaps able to bury the truth now (especially now that people are smart enough to use archiving sites.
DAMN, Jaimas! Good FUCKING show! That is the OP I've been wanting to write for years and just didn't have the je ne sais quoi to ever hunker down and commit. I don't have a particular identity I'd like to be identified by (hence the Brianna Wu sock) but I guess you'd call me spacekatboy, I'm the first person who actually decided to track down Devi's earlier antics and created the initial post in ED forums. I'd like to make a few content suggestions to your OP post.
EDIT: I believe archiving this topic, and creating a new general Devi cow topic is more suited to purpose and a far better idea, but I'll leave that to the Kiwi mods. I'm always willing to help put it together now.
INCOMING: LONG AUTISTIC POWERLEVEL POST DO NOT READ OR I MIGHT FEEL SELF-AGGRANDIZED
The first thing to clarify again is that I'm the first person to do this, no one at ED or Kiwi ever really looked that deeply into Devi's actions beforehand, and I didn't properly start until she made that stupid butthurt Notch video. I had tried to look up any information on this cow and literally nothing existed at the time, which is INSANE to me. Eventually I connected her various aliases together and realized, holy shit, this was some kind of quantum cow that always seemed to vanish when observed directly and literally no one, not from Kiwi or ED, had tried to put a profile together on her. Her numerous aliases and attempts to stymie her past from haunting her by wiping social media two or three times a year has been incredibly effective. At best, Kiwi had some prior mentions of her aliases in interactions with other cows, but that's literally the extent of it.
So I decided to put together the shocking exposé into her actions, and despite the social media wipes I managed to dive pretty deeply into CONSOLE II (practically forgotten) and her obsession with Billy Corgan on various guitar pedal forums. I think these events are worthy of a couple chapters themselves, with her early guitar pedal antics and Billy Corgan feuds being chapter one, and the CONSOLE II Kickstarter fiasco being worthy of it's own chapter, chapter two. Chapter three would delve into her indie gamedev craziness (I'm sure there are still playable copies of the games or screenshots somewhere), and then four would be Gamergate. By the time you reach Gamergate, you already establish Devi's core behaviors even before she starts intersecting with other internet drama and well known cows. Please do refer to the first post in my ED thread here: https://forum.encyclopediadramatica.rs/threads/the-devi-ever-dump-thread.23023/
As a side note, the ED thread went up just after Devi made her debut in the farms in THIS thread, but that was just a coincidence, I hadn't even noticed she made a thread here when I made mine.
EDIT: Her 2B2T Trolling events may or may not be worth mentioning between ANTI-GG stuff and the Notch stuff. As always, use your discretion.
In my ED topic I made a lot of unsupported personal assertions about Devi's private life while staying vague. That's because I got all this information from EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BATTLEFIELDTRIP, Devi's trans girlfriend at the time during CONSOLE II through, I dunno, partway through her game dev phase but before Gamergate. I no longer have those logs, thank both Skype and my general incompetence for that.
PS: There was a time I burnt myself out looking into Devi bullshit and actually deleted my autistic doxx folder which included the logs, it was a moment of weakness when I questioned myself about whether this drama hunt was worth my time. Honestly, it's probably not worth the time and I like to think dumping it made me a better person overall, but I just keep coming back to this topic, don't I? So fuck it. I don't have those logs anymore, and they were far too personal to share. BFT is a tranny, but like Maddie she's way more a victim of Devi than anything else and is in no way a cow, so even if I had the logs they'd be heavily redacted. Long story short, Devi is an abusive tit.
The only thing left to add is that Devi is still incredibly active today. Even before she vanished, she had been contributing to the Virtual Reality RPing community as "Little Mouse". Most of this is information that can be found at the end of the ED topic, but I'll try to wrap up the new developments here, you guys might be better investigators.
One cool evening, I run into someone I see regularly out and about…we get to talking, and one thing leads to another, and she invites me back to her apartment…she makes me some soup, and after I am fed full, pulls me into her bed…the lights are turned off, and we start kissing…each time I try to touch her ‘down there’, she moves away from me and tenses up…this goes on for about 10 minutes until I finally ask if there is a problem…she says “there is something I have to tell you”, and proceeds to tell me that she is a he…I jump up and flip on the light…she/he says “look, it’s not a big deal, I won’t tell anyone, please stay, I’ll do anything you want me to do”…I beg off politely, saying it’s not really my trip, and I’m *boom out the door, on the street laughing to myself (how could I not know! Oops…) it occurs to me that I always thought she was a kind of weird looking girl anyway…I walked the 20 minutes home in the middle of the night, and was relieved to get back safe…I go inside, walk to the bathroom and throw on the light, and gasp when I see the massive hickie on my neck…of course, the next day the band is rehearsing, and when they see the mark, ask who I had ended up with…I lie and say it was a tourist type girl who had already left town…after a few weeks, friends start coming up and asking me if I had slept with the he/she…I feign ignorance at the whole matter, but I start to get angry because I felt I had been duped innocently, acted honorably, and now some sort of revenge was being played out…after a couple more weeks of this, I finally pulled “her” aside and said not so politely that if he didn’t stop telling people what had happened, that I would break both his arms and his legs…and that was the end of that…*
DAMN, Jaimas! Good FUCKING show! That is the OP I've been wanting to write for years and just didn't have the je ne sais quoi to ever hunker down and commit. I don't have a particular identity I'd like to be identified by (hence the Brianna Wu sock) but I guess you'd call me spacekatboy, I'm the first person who actually decided to track down Devi's earlier antics and created the initial post in ED forums. I'd like to make a few content suggestions to your OP post.
EDIT: I believe archiving this topic, and creating a new general Devi cow topic is more suited to purpose and a far better idea, but I'll leave that to the Kiwi mods. I'm always willing to help put it together now.
INCOMING: LONG AUTISTIC POWERLEVEL POST DO NOT READ OR I MIGHT FEEL SELF-AGGRANDIZED
The first thing to clarify again is that I'm the first person to do this, no one at ED or Kiwi ever really looked that deeply into Devi's actions beforehand, and I didn't properly start until she made that stupid butthurt Notch video. I had tried to look up any information on this cow and literally nothing existed at the time, which is INSANE to me. Eventually I connected her various aliases together and realized, holy shit, this was some kind of quantum cow that always seemed to vanish when observed directly and literally no one, not from Kiwi or ED, had tried to put a profile together on her. Her numerous aliases and attempts to stymie her past from haunting her by wiping social media two or three times a year has been incredibly effective. At best, Kiwi had some prior mentions of her aliases in interactions with other cows, but that's literally the extent of it.
So I decided to put together the shocking exposé into her actions, and despite the social media wipes I managed to dive pretty deeply into CONSOLE II (practically forgotten) and her obsession with Billy Corgan on various guitar pedal forums. I think these events are worthy of a couple chapters themselves, with her early guitar pedal antics and Billy Corgan feuds being chapter one, and the CONSOLE II Kickstarter fiasco being worthy of it's own chapter, chapter two. Chapter three would delve into her indie gamedev craziness (I'm sure there are still playable copies of the games or screenshots somewhere), and then four would be Gamergate. By the time you reach Gamergate, you already establish Devi's core behaviors even before she starts intersecting with other internet drama and well known cows. Please do refer to the first post in my ED thread here: https://forum.encyclopediadramatica.rs/threads/the-devi-ever-dump-thread.23023/
As a side note, the ED thread went up just after Devi made her debut in the farms in THIS thread, but that was just a coincidence, I hadn't even noticed she made a thread here when I made mine.
EDIT: Her 2B2T Trolling events may or may not be worth mentioning between ANTI-GG stuff and the Notch stuff. As always, use your discretion.
In my ED topic I made a lot of unsupported personal assertions about Devi's private life while staying vague. That's because I got all this information from EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BATTLEFIELDTRIP, Devi's trans girlfriend at the time during CONSOLE II through, I dunno, partway through her game dev phase but before Gamergate. I no longer have those logs, thank both Skype and my general incompetence for that.
PS: There was a time I burnt myself out looking into Devi bullshit and actually deleted my autistic doxx folder which included the logs, it was a moment of weakness when I questioned myself about whether this drama hunt was worth my time. Honestly, it's probably not worth the time and I like to think dumping it made me a better person overall, but I just keep coming back to this topic, don't I? So fuck it. I don't have those logs anymore, and they were far too personal to share. BFT is a tranny, but like Maddie she's way more a victim of Devi than anything else and is in no way a cow, so even if I had the logs they'd be heavily redacted. Long story short, Devi is an abusive tit.
The only thing left to add is that Devi is still incredibly active today. Even before she vanished, she had been contributing to the Virtual Reality RPing community as "Little Mouse". Most of this is information that can be found at the end of the ED topic, but I'll try to wrap up the new developments here, you guys might be better investigators.
No joke, I could not have made that OP without the help of you and your team, as well as other Kiwis in this thread. Take your fucking bows, people. The data you guys got together was impressive and basically helped establish the patterns of behavior that hallmark Devi Ever. She absolutely deserves to be on the "cows we need to actively keep tabs on" list, because no matter where she goes, scams and idiocy will soon follow.
For a lot of Kiwis, though, the dislike of her goes way deeper. If you followed the Chloe Sagal tragedy at all, you'd know how it ended: Chloe got kicked out of basically every community that ever cared about her as she went increasingly crazy and ending her life in one of the most horrifying ways possible. Her reason for doing so? The complete lack of support she had gotten from the "community."
Key to Chloe's descent into madness, however, was paranoia, and the creeping belief that everyone was out to get her - a paranoia fed by various individuals who claimed to be her friends. While you had a few people out there, like @SatanicPanic!AtTheDisco, who tried actively to nudge her onto a better path and fought fucking hard to help her, you also had dipshits like Crash Override and especially Devi Ever who wound her up, got her especially paranoid, and cut her loose, hoping to cynically manipulate a mentally-ill person for their own gain. Ever's doing so led to Chloe being an outcast from multiple communities, which in turn made her easy for assholes like Zinnia to victimize. Devi is basically the one who paved the pathway that led to her offing herself, and that's fucking depressing.
No joke, I could not have made that OP without the help of you and your team, as well as other Kiwis in this thread. Take your fucking bows, people. The data you guys got together was impressive and basically helped establish the patterns of behavior that hallmark Devi Ever. She absolutely deserves to be on the "cows we need to actively keep tabs on" list, because no matter where she goes, scams and idiocy will soon follow.
For a lot of Kiwis, though, the dislike of her goes way deeper. If you followed the Chloe Sagal tragedy at all, you'd know how it ended: Chloe got kicked out of basically every community that ever cared about her as she went increasingly crazy and ending her life in one of the most horrifying ways possible. Her reason for doing so? The complete lack of support she had gotten from the "community."
Key to Chloe's descent into madness, however, was paranoia, and the creeping belief that everyone was out to get her - a paranoia fed by various individuals who claimed to be her friends. While you had a few people out there, like @SatanicPanic!AtTheDisco, who tried actively to nudge her onto a better path and fought fucking hard to help her, you also had dipshits like Crash Override and especially Devi Ever who wound her up, got her especially paranoid, and cut her loose, hoping to cynically manipulate a mentally-ill person for their own gain. Ever's doing so led to Chloe being an outcast from multiple communities, which in turn made her easy for assholes like Zinnia to victimize. Devi is basically the one who paved the pathway that led to her offing herself, and that's fucking depressing.
It's nice to feel appreciated, but I feel the credit goes to all of us in both communities. Prior to making a post, I wasn't part of the EDiots or the Kiwis, I was just personally fascinated with Devi's share of drama; there was no team. Once I made the initial posting, fucking hell it was like a magnet that everyone else got pulled to (thanks in great part to Devi's attention whoring on both sites). Maybe I'll finally write that ED article after all. As far as writing a new OP, I'd be happy to collaborate if you want.
EDIT: Is that the new tagline then? Devi Ever, the tranny that killed Chloe Sagal? Or is that maybe a bit better implied XD
EDIT: I didn't weigh much on the Chloe thing since most of that happened while I was on hiatus from drama, I just remember thinking that was really fucking tragic beyond belief. No one deserved that.
While you had a few people out there, like @SatanicPanic!AtTheDisco, who tried actively to nudge her onto a better path and fought fucking hard to help her, you also had dipshits like Crash Override and especially Devi Ever who wound her up, got her especially paranoid, and cut her loose, hoping to cynically manipulate a mentally-ill person for their own gain.
Zoe Quinn's purely sociopathic cynicism has never been more clear than in CON's treatment of Chloe. Trying to fob her off on Brianna Wu was particularly reprehensible.
