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Should be a wild four years.

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Wisconsin is almost meaningless because once you get outside the city limits of Madison and Milwaukee, it's basically "The Hills Have Eyes: Innawoods Edition."
Yeah but that's awesome though. Plus they have cheese. Wisconsin is easily the best Midwest state and must be protected at all costs. If not for your sake, then for dear Sneeder.
 
Where is the news this morning?
over in the Florida Orbit

The U.S. State Department has responded to The Floridian's request for comment to Secretary Marco Rubio regarding the potential advantage the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) could soon hold over the U.S., if President Javier Milei's Argentina grants Chinese-aligned building companies to dredge the Via Navegable Troncal (VNT) instead of partnering up with American companies.

President Donald Trump's foreign policy initiative in the region could be compromised if Argentina sides with Chinese companies over U.S. companies.

But now it appears that Argentina recently inserted language into the VNT tender that would prevent "state-owned enterprises" from taking part in the bidding process. Dredging company Jan De Nul has partnered up with Argentina’s Servimagnus, which has significant ties to state-owned Chinese companies, several of which are actively seeking a role in the billion-dollar dredging project.

One of those CCP-aligned companies is China Communications Construction Company ( CCCC ), which is not only a subsidiary of Shanghai Dredging but has been the tip of the spear of China’s Belt & Road global initiative. The Belt & Road initiative is considered a threat to U.S. interests and national security.

"We congratulate Argentina for including language in the VNT waterway tender that precludes bids from state-owned enterprises. This is a vital step toward securing Argentina’s own sovereignty and ensuring its critical infrastructure remains in the hands of transparent, market-driven actors. The United States remains the number one source of Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) in Argentina, and we continue to support competitive, transparent bidding processes that prioritize high-quality standards and national security," stated a State Department official.

The VNT waterway is a major thoroughfare that stretches from Paraguay and Argentina to Brazil and connects more than 100 inland ports, handling an annual 100 million tons of cargo, and moves 80% of Argentina's annual imports and exports.
looks like Chainsaw Man has made sure Chicoms are out of the bidding on some stuff, which had been a concern


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Florida Republican gubernatorial candidate James Fishback is alleged to have orchestrated an alleged astroturfing operation of fake email accounts, phony X posts and paid-for social media “engagement” to plant friendly stories, respond to critics and “destroy” the reputation of his former hedge-fund boss, according to court filings made public Wednesday.

The 45-page exhibit, filed in October in federal court in Manhattan, lays bare how the 31-year-old long-shot candidate for governor allegedly directed his then-24-year-old campaign treasurer to impersonate concerned investors, manufacture online support and wage what Fishback himself called “war” against Greenlight Capital founder David Einhorn, a matter first reported by Florida Politics.


The texts, ordered released by U.S. District Judge Paul Engelmayer over Fishback’s objections, come from a single day, May 16, 2024, and show the candidate allegedly micromanaging a coordinated deception while running a cash-starved campaign that has raised less than $19,000 and trails front-runner Trump-endorsed Byron Donalds by double digits in polls.

“WTF. My dad will do it then,” Fishback texted campaign treasurer Alex Munguia when he needed an “older voice” for a call. “Dude … I need this now. We are at war.”


Fishback’s actions were allegedly personal. Documents submitted to the court show he repeatedly targeted David Einhorn, the billionaire short-seller he once worked for as a low-level analyst from early 2021 until his abrupt departure in August 2023. Greenlight has dismissed Fishback’s self-described title of “head of macro” as nonexistent; the court documents show Fishback frantically trying to prop up that lie with sock-puppet accounts.

In one alleged scheme, Fishback allegedly scripted an email from a fictitious Gmail account under the name “Richard Lopez,” a supposed Tesla investor, and had Munguia send it to Wall Street Journal reporter Gregory Zuckerman. The fake investor reportedly complained that Einhorn was shorting Tesla again and demanded a debate between Einhorn and “his ex-trader Fishback […] a college dropout that David hired.” Fishback allegedly tried to insert details of a nonexistent “party dinner” where the fake investor supposedly learned of Einhorn’s position.

Another “Lopez” email praised a Free Press article Fishback himself wrote and demanded a follow-up attacking Einhorn. Fishback allegedly had Munguia anonymously pitch NBCUniversal producers on a debate appearance while hiding his own involvement.

When online critics questioned Fishback’s inflated résumé, he allegedly ordered Munguia to fire back from multiple X accounts, complete with screenshots and links. Munguia balked at responding to an account with an anime profile picture. Fishback’s reply: “Yes IDC. Respond to each of them.”

Court documents allege Fishback instructed Munguia to buy 350 likes for an X post touting a since-dismissed lawsuit against Greenlight, and to use a personal credit card and an anonymous email to hide the trail. “Use your personal card — use ANON email for the sign up ok?” Fishback wrote.

The candidate’s texts contain strong language. “We will destroy (this) man,” Fishback wrote of Einhorn. Munguia replied, “Yessir this needs to happen.” After one encouraging response from a reporter, Fishback gushed, “OMG I LOVE YOU,” then added, “No Diddy.” Munguia shot back: “lol we gonna bring this man down.” Fishback: “YES WE ARE….!!!!”

The filings come as Fishback’s legal and financial troubles mount. He lost an arbitration fight with Greenlight, was ordered in January to pay the firm $229,000, and faces potential seizure of assets by U.S. Marshals. His own investment firm, Azoria Capital, has collapsed. A Tesla was repossessed from him in November. His gubernatorial campaign is a punchline, polling in the low 20s and focused on culture-war issues, a total abortion ban, divesting from Israel and a “sin tax” on OnlyFans creators.

The documents provide a rare, unfiltered look at how a struggling political newcomer allegedly tried to manufacture relevance through fraudulent and manipulative practices, according to court filings.


Fishback, a college dropout who once coached high-school debate, has positioned himself as a populist outsider. Tuesday’s filings suggest the outsider allegedly engaged in what could be described as astroturfing to raise his political profile.

Editor’s Note: This story has been updated to include that Florida Politics first reported this topic.
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new (old) noise about Fishback being a dipshit, including concerns about anime pfps

Sumter County Sheriff Patrick “Pat” Breeden has endorsed U.S. Rep. Byron Donalds in the 2026 race for Florida governor, joining what Donalds’ campaign describes as a majority of the state’s sheriffs in backing the Trump-endorsed Republican.

Breeden, a Republican who was elected Sumter County sheriff in 2024 after more than three decades with the agency, praised Donalds’ commitment to law enforcement in a statement Wednesday.
H1-Byron gets his eight millionth sheriff endorsement

Gubernatorial candidate Jay Collins is explaining away his marginal performance in opinion surveys by suggesting the numbers are cooked.

The Lieutenant Governor blames it all on “suppression polling” and says Byron Donalds, who has led in virtually all public surveys of the race, is not actually the front-runner.

“There’s a lot of suppression polling,” Collins said on Jacksonville radio. “You’ve been in this race for a year, you have the President’s endorsement, all this money, and you’re going backwards in real polls. So you have to put suppression pulling in like this.”

The Tampa Republican suggested that despite Donalds consistently polling near 50% with all other candidates in single digits, the numbers show that voters aren’t with the Congressman from Naples, and that Collins has more support than pollsters can find.

“Do you really believe when you talk to people, only 4% of the people are really against him or 4% are with me? Give me a break,” Collins said.


“Forty-two to 45% of the people are undecided because they don’t like Byron. They haven’t had time to actually get to hear us. We’re out here doing this. The fact is, if they would have wanted Byron, they would have supported him already. He’s not the clear front-runner. He’s not grabbing the hearts and minds of the people. And that’s the key to this election.”

Collins has not been able to get Gov. Ron DeSantis to endorse him, but continued to imply tacit support during the same interview. He suggested DeSantis believes Collins may be a better Governor than he himself is.

“DeSantis himself says, ‘Look, if something were to happen to me, Jay could step in Day 1. Wouldn’t miss a beat. We may be stronger. Who knows?’ That’s pretty high praise,” Collins said.

The candidate has continued to explain away the weaknesses in his campaign’s performance thus far. This week, he blamed lobbyists for problems fundraising.
Vice-Ron! blames everybody else for him sucking
 
Trying to manufacture the hype of a Fag:

Quantus polls Massie as +10
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But Off the Wagon Baris had it as Faggy +4.5
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But because Quantus said +10 now Baris is acting like Massie could totally win by more, weak willed in need of the methodone:
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It looks like the older people want Gallrein, younger want Massie, but the young are always harder to get out to vote. But for someone who was going to easily win a month ago, Massie's numbers are going in the wrong direction.

edit: it should also be noted Baris didn't plug his own poll on his personal account like he always does, he kept in on the Big Data Poll account to hide it.


Anyway, the soldiers are alright:
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pretty good take on Massie, and why folks dislike him. The epstein stuff isn't helping him as much as he thinks it does, the Israel stuff no one cares about as much as he thinks it does either. He's treading water and I hope Trump (or Vance) makes a campaign stop directly for Ed.. and ffs, ed needs some media training too.
 
pretty good take on Massie, and why folks dislike him. The epstein stuff isn't helping him as much as he thinks it does, the Israel stuff no one cares about as much as he thinks it does either. He's treading water and I hope Trump (or Vance) makes a campaign stop directly for Ed.. and ffs, ed needs some media training too.
What I simply don't understand is why Massie decided to crash out on life. I know his wife died and that hit him like a ton of bricks, rightfully so, but no one on this site would make excuses for me if my wife died and I decided to crash out on the forum.
 
They want to do it before midterms so Vance can only get one term after.
Absoutely. You get it.

There is a ticking clock for removing Trump. The best laugh would be Trump retiring after two years and one day, giving Vance the potential for ten years in office.
 
If Carlin and Bill Hicks were still alive today they'd be the biggest Kamala Shills in the country.
You know, it’s telling when George Carlin isn’t remembered for his jokes but for his political takes. Like, sure, a comedian can craft political commentary into a joke, that’s part of the craft, but there’s pretty much no joke or bit of Carlin’s that ever comes up despite being regularly being held up as one of the greatest comedians. The closest is the words you can’t say on tv bit, but even that is hardly a joke.
Though I’ll be honest and say I think stand up is one I’d the least funny formats of comedy in my opinion.
 
You know, it’s telling when George Carlin isn’t remembered for his jokes but for his political takes. Like, sure, a comedian can craft political commentary into a joke, that’s part of the craft, but there’s pretty much no joke or bit of Carlin’s that ever comes up despite being regularly being held up as one of the greatest comedians. The closest is the words you can’t say on tv bit, but even that is hardly a joke.
Though I’ll be honest and say I think stand up is one I’d the least funny formats of comedy in my opinion.
Bill Cosby is the best stand up comedian of all time.
 
You know, it’s telling when George Carlin isn’t remembered for his jokes but for his political takes. Like, sure, a comedian can craft political commentary into a joke, that’s part of the craft, but there’s pretty much no joke or bit of Carlin’s that ever comes up despite being regularly being held up as one of the greatest comedians. The closest is the words you can’t say on tv bit, but even that is hardly a joke.
Though I’ll be honest and say I think stand up is one I’d the least funny formats of comedy in my opinion.
Carlin's act would not hold up well because so many people took inspiration from him. A lot of his observations would be considered passé at this point. At the time, though, it was very different and gut-punch funny. It's like watching Sam Kinison: he'd seem like a screaming lunatic to modern viewers, but he was something quite different from other acts at the time.

Carlin's biggest sin was getting older and angrier. His material departed from observation to straight critiques, or what we'd probably call rants today. Too many people tried to copy this in the 2000's and it influenced alt comedy, which is filled with retards who try to be profound more than they try to be funny.
 
Found the video. He was one of the people sperging on the lid day about Trump being in a hospital which got him banned.
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He is a moron, FACT. They were focusing on getting the pilot back, which was a massive success by the way, and the second they kick the media so they can focus 100% on the rescue op, this faggot falsely claims Trump has some medical issue.

Meanwhile, they hid Biden from the public for 4 years straight and pretended there was nothing absurd about that. These are not serious people.
 
What I simply don't understand is why Massie decided to crash out on life. I know his wife died and that hit him like a ton of bricks, rightfully so, but no one on this site would make excuses for me if my wife died and I decided to crash out on the forum.
Same thing that happened to Tucker honestly, they have the worst people around them, they have sycophants that won't push back on the dumb shit they say or do. I honestly think that trita parsi guy has been funneling money towards them, or maybe just sending people that he has gave big sums of money too. It clicked for me when Saagar Enjeti went on tucker a little while ago, that guy is paid a lot by trita.

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He's basically an iranian agent, @Catch The Rainbow probably has more information on him, I know i've seen him mention the guy a couple times.

Now as it pertains to massie and trita. https://quincyinst.org/2025/12/04/q...nual-quincy-award-for-responsible-statecraft/

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2009/11/trita-parsi-lobbyist-for-iran/30133/

also, massie is getting money from the Mahrouq family, another sketchy fuck, who donated a lot to "the squad"

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This is troubling for many ways, and i wonder how much is genuine belief and how much is just thomas massie (and tucker) being a whore.
 
Carlin's act would not hold up well because so many people took inspiration from him. A lot of his observations would be considered passé at this point. At the time, though, it was very different and gut-punch funny. It's like watching Sam Kinison: he'd seem like a screaming lunatic to modern viewers, but he was something quite different from other acts at the time.

Carlin's biggest sin was getting older and angrier. His material departed from observation to straight critiques, or what we'd probably call rants today. Too many people tried to copy this in the 2000's and it influenced alt comedy, which is filled with retards who try to be profound more than they try to be funny.
Carlin's biggest boon is that he died before everything started going noticeably sideways.
If he were alive today, he'd have TDS'd his reputation away for all but the strongest of Redditors. He'd just be a bitter old man, most likely screaming on Bluesky to an audience of no one. His seething might have been so great that he'd even be a full-blown lolcow.
 
Carlin's biggest boon is that he died before everything started going noticeably sideways.
If he were alive today, he'd have TDS'd his reputation away for all but the strongest of Redditors. He'd just be a bitter old man, most likely screaming on Bluesky to an audience of no one. His seething might have been so great that he'd even be a full-blown lolcow.
Carlin would have been ousted for telling anti-Trump people they're just as retarded for swallowing the propaganda of the elites. He would have hated Trump for sure, but he wasn't joking when he said "it's one big club and you ain't in it."
 
Carlin's biggest boon is that he died before everything started going noticeably sideways.
If he were alive today, he'd have TDS'd his reputation away for all but the strongest of Redditors. He'd just be a bitter old man, most likely screaming on Bluesky to an audience of no one. His seething might have been so great that he'd even be a full-blown lolcow.
It is a sad thing that Carlin leaned into the political shit, he was a pretty funny guy when he was playing with language, his tea bit was pretty funny and i still use it from time to time. He mocked the idea of unsweetened tea, tea without sugar shouldn't be called UNsweetened. Clever wordplay like that was when he was at his best.

But yeah, Carlin was really fuckign stupid in a lot of ways, and absolutely a shitlib faggot.
 
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