Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

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Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Trump will be meeting with the CEOs of the MIC on Friday about upping production.
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wait, I was told by a reliable source we arent facing any shortage and our supply is unlimited, why would we need to be upping an unlimited supply?
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Trump tweeting we can fight forever wars is some airport paperback level bullshit, is there ANYONE on earth to speak truth to power to this man?

I was called a doomer for showing real whitepapers outlining the 2 year lead times for advanced missiles is 2 years cause they have such complex supply chains but now that we have spend 4 days mag dumping into the desert and we went to check the dang warehouse for reloads and its that dumb and dumber scene with the IOUs from Ukraine.
 
Taser Confetti said:
I was an idealistic sperg who wanted to serve my country and shoot at dune coons. I never deployed - some of the finest men I’ll ever know did. Many never came back and many more came back but will never be right. For fucking what? Afghanistan is controlled by an infinitely more battle hardened and competent Taliban. We never found Saddam’s WMD’s and Iraq lowered the age of consent to 9. The best people of my generation’s died in the sand box for Greater Israel.
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You went from being a soldier of the greatest and most powerful country in human history to being a filthy whore for the Iranians and blaming your whoredom on the Jews when it came from your own inner flaws. You are a disgusting "human" being to sell your mind to the 7th century Mullahs and their suicidal faith in their Imam Ali. In fact, you are worse than the Shia, they only observe Ashura and mutilate themselves once a year while you mutilate yourself daily.

Ali raised the door of Khaybar to slay the Jews, you raise your glass to bitch about them.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
You went from being a soldier of the greatest and most powerful country in human history to being a filthy whore for the Iranians and blaming your whoredom on the Jews when it came from your own inner flaws. You are a disgusting "human" being to sell your mind to the 7th century Mullahs and their suicidal faith in their Imam Ali. In fact, you are worse than the Shia, they only observe Ashura and mutilate themselves once a year while you mutilate yourself daily.

Ali raised the door of Khaybar to slay the Jews, you raise your glass to bitch about them.
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Its posts like this I wish I had access to the ✡️ sticker
 
StudMccool said:
wait, I was told by a reliable source we arent facing any shortage and our supply is unlimited, why would we need to be upping an unlimited supply?
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Trump tweeting we can fight forever wars is some airport paperback level bullshit, is there ANYONE on earth to speak truth to power to this man?

I was called a doomer for showing real whitepapers outlining the 2 year lead times for advanced missiles is 2 years cause they have such complex supply chains but now that we have spend 4 days mag dumping into the desert and we went to check the dang warehouse for reloads and its that dumb and dumber scene with the IOUs from Ukraine.
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Trump is, for all purposes, a neoconservative now.

I remember listening to this video by Fuentes. Only video I ever heard. I know he's supposed to be some kind of nutjob and a gay Mexican, but what he said, even if it's a broken clock type of deal, made sense. The Pornstar and Waheguru RNC was the final triumph of the institutional Party over Trump. He didn't break them to his will, they broke him and let him play as the big daddy because that alliance is more useful to everyone. Trump, for his part, never had any coherent ideology or principles. He basically flipped his political stance throughout his life to match up with whatever was Anti-Current Thing (I'm drawing this from EmpLemon's documentary on his 2016 campaign). Mostly just wanted to be President. In 2016 he got that by being Discount Bin Gracchus. Now he gets it by being George Bush III.

So you get jeets all over your government, more centralization of power, expensive performative bullshit with immigration (put an army of agents out on the streets while giving amnesties to entire industries), and always more war.

You can't vote your way out of this.


Edit: We all got played the same way Leftists that voted for Black Jesus got played.
 
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ur_mom_lmaoooo said:
So apparently we're arming the Kurds now in the hopes that they'll lead the internal regime change?

Does anyone have any context on Iranian Kurds (like how many there are, how alienated they feel from the rest of Iran, if they've had a history of armed uprising, and so forth)? Is this a viable strategy, or are we in for another repeat of Iraq/Syria?
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Without exaggerations its like if the US was trying to arm the Jews in germany for a hostile takeover 4 days AFTER D-day, its a logistical immposibillity

if they had the means and arms to overthrow the regime they already would have, despite my own and the rest of the Wests optimism killing a dew dozen of the top IRGC members has done hardly anything to destabilize its command structure.

We really need rolling constant strikes on all their heavy industry to grind the country to a halt but either we are unwilling or unable to do that.

We tried to arm the Kurds in Iraq AND Syria to we are convinced this meta will work eventually
 
Ughubughughughughughghlug said:
neoconservative
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neocon is a thought terminating word, in the past 2 months he's

>flipped venezeula
>stopped Iraq from electing anti US president
>knocked out Iran
>destroyed china/russia's 2 top allies and enforced the Donroe Doctrine

you are COMPLEMENTING the term neocon by comparing Trump's achievements to the failures of Bush Era diplomacy/nationbuilding
 
Studmcool is not long for the other thread, he will join us here soon.

@Taser Confetti posted this:
I was an idealistic sperg who wanted to serve my country and shoot at dune coons. I never deployed - some of the finest men I’ll ever know did. Many never came back and many more came back but will never be right. For fucking what? Afghanistan is controlled by an infinitely more battle hardened and competent Taliban. We never found Saddam’s WMD’s and Iraq lowered the age of consent to 9. The best people of my generation’s died in the sand box for Greater Israel.
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catch the rainbow responded to a Veteran with this:
You went from being a soldier of the greatest and most powerful country in human history to being a filthy whore for the Iranians and blaming your whoredom on the Jews when it came from your own inner flaws. You are a disgusting "human" being to sell your mind to the 7th century Mullahs and their suicidal faith in their Imam Ali. In fact, you are worse than the Shia, they only observe Ashura and mutilate themselves once a year while you mutilate yourself daily.

Ali raised the door of Khaybar to slay the Jews, you raise your glass to bitch about them.
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That's what they think of American vets. These are the people negrating you for being against another sand war and calling you iranian sympathizers for it. Piece of shit cowardly cunts like that.

It's made my blood boil and I'm MATI.
 
Duane Dibbley said:
Studmcool is not long for the other thread, he will join us here soon.

@Taser Confetti posted this:


catch the rainbow responded to a Veteran with this:


That's what they think of American vets. These are the people negrating you for being against another sand war and calling you iranian sympathizers for it. Piece of shit cowardly cunts like that.

It's made my blood boil and I'm MATI.
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Didn’t see this. He’s the only dipshit I’ve actually ever bothered to block.

Get it right kike - I was a Marine not a soldier.
 
Any true separatist movement or coup can't just be started by airdropping guns and hoping random people just start shooting soldiers in the street. It didn't work in WW2 and it won't work now.

In Donetsk and Lugansk the first separatists got their weapons by grabbing whatever was on hand, storming police stations and army bases and adding to their arsenal. Army units and police officers naturally defected and brought with them their firearms and expertise and eventually volunteers came in from the places you'd expect once they understood that it was an actual movement with a chance of succeeding and not just a bunch of protests where you go to get shot at by religious crazies. Weapons and equipment were captured in skirmishes and ambushes, supply lines were eventually set up for material support. Leaders naturally arose from those with military experience and those who had a natural ability to learn and adapt to their new reality. The volunteers of these movements were often the very old or the very young, in some of the first battles in 2014, there's well recorded evidence of guys 60+ going around fighting - where are these 60 year old Iranians who saw (limited) freedom under the Shah and want it back? Are they afraid of dying? Where are the veterans of the Iran - Iraq war with nothing to lose?

Material support from Russia came eventually, but always in limited capacity. Strelkov defended Slavyansk for 85 days with mortars, rifles, anti-material rifles and a single working artillery piece, and even though Ukraine's military was pretty bad at the time, I really doubt Iran's military is any more cohesive and well drilled than they were, at least the infantry that would be fighting, not to mention how much better suited Iran's geography is for asymmetric warfare.

Frankly it's starting to seem like Iranians don't deserve freedom. Protesting and getting shot without accomplishing anything? Any retard can do that, liberals in the US do it all the time. Real revolutions require more sacrifice than just going outside when you see other people doing the same thing. The US can really only do so much for the Iranians before they have to get up off their ass and do something, or order will be restored eventually. Trump won't keep up the bombing forever and the kikes will eventually run out of shit to use.

"When we complained to the King Władysław he asked, have you no muskets, or sabers?"
 
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