AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

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something I don't understand are the people that keep saying "two more weeks and the bubble pops!" like that suddenly means AI will vanish into the night never to be seen again. We can't go back to a pre-AI world, they have to unironically deal with it.
 
something I don't understand are the people that keep saying "two more weeks and the bubble pops!" like that suddenly means AI will vanish into the night never to be seen again. We can't go back to a pre-AI world, they have to unironically deal with it.
It's mostly coming from troon- and troon-worshipping communities, people who are used to denying reality and who don't have a very good track record of predicting the future.

In my experience, the angriest anti-AI seethers happen to be the same people who thought that Twitter was going to collapse back in 2022, who were very cock-sure and arrogant about Kamala winning in 2024, and who thought that the UK would actually significantly improve with the Tories out of government. Unsurprisingly, none of these predictions have come to pass.

What's actually going to happen when the AI bubble pops, is a lot of hardship for everyone as it drags the economy down the gutter with it. A lot of smaller AI startups are going to die off, and people are going to lose a lot of money (and you should expect the anti-AI crowd to cry the hardest about this). But the big players? They'll stick around, and they will adjust their business model accordingly. Not to mention that many tools, including browsers, have integrated AI models that will continue running regardless of which remote services go down. The technology is simply too versatile to give up on.

And even if there was some cultist movement across the entire Western world that banned AI simply due to vibes, then China would advance the tech nonetheless (and gain another big advantage over us).
 
One of the anti AI people that did a hunger strike against Google Deepmind put out a documentary about his shit.

His documentary (it is only 20 minutes long):
"I Went On A Hunger Strike Outside Google To Stop The AI Race"
Description:
I stopped eating outside Google DeepMind's London office, demanding CEO Demis Hassabis commit to stopping the AI race, if everyone else also stopped. Denys Sheremet flew from Amsterdam to join me in London. Meanwhile, Guido Reichstadter was fasting outside the offices of AI Company Anthropic in San Francisco.Featured in:The Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...The Verge: https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificia...Le Monde: https://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/article...Business Insider: https://www.businessinsider.com/hunge...Sky News: https://news.sky.com/video/hunger-str...TAKE ACTIONSign the statement calling for a ban on superintelligence: https://superintelligence-statement.org/Sign up for the conditional Washington protest: https://ifanyonebuildsit.com/marchPause AI US: https://www.pauseai-us.org/StopAI: https://www.stopai.info/ControlAI: https://campaign.controlai.com/take-a...Follow me: https://x.com/MichaelTrazzi
Archive of video:

Most of it is just rehashing "original thoughts" that other people have written and there's really nothing original in it.

Hunger strike link on k-farms
 
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And even if there was some cultist movement across the entire Western world that banned AI simply due to vibes, then China would advance the tech nonetheless (and gain another big advantage over us).
I can almost guarantee you that if the anti-AI cult got companies to stop working on it the cult themselves would make it.
The most vehement and famous AI faggot (the shlomo guy) is basically responsible for pushing AI as hard as it has been pushed.

It's a 101 lesson in the Streisand effect.
 
So like, would a counter-protest to a hunger strike be a bunch of fat niggas standing across from them, looking them directly in the eyes and eating Arby's? I'd give anything to participate in that, counter-protesting retards just by being a fat fuck sounds like a dream come true.
 
how do you expect anyone old enough to vote to take you seriously if you litteraly make the whole thing into a gay youtube slop video complete with the most algorithem chasing cringe inducing video thumbnail.
 
It's mostly coming from troon- and troon-worshipping communities, people who are used to denying reality and who don't have a very good track record of predicting the future.

In my experience, the angriest anti-AI seethers happen to be the same people who thought that Twitter was going to collapse back in 2022, who were very cock-sure and arrogant about Kamala winning in 2024, and who thought that the UK would actually significantly improve with the Tories out of government. Unsurprisingly, none of these predictions have come to pass.
They got really cocky after they got self-precieved wins on technology, such as Cryptocurrencies, VR, Metaverses, and NFTs. They think AI will follow suit.

I personally don't think any of those technology is dead in the waters.
 
They got really cocky after they got self-precieved wins on technology, such as Cryptocurrencies, VR, Metaverses, and NFTs. They think AI will follow suit.

I personally don't think any of those technology is dead in the waters.
They are not.

Crypto’s issue is that its value is inherently unstable. If a country or multinational company decided to use bitcoin as its main currency, things would change.
I digress though, VR and metaverses are not as indistinguishable from reality as people want, but they will get there.
NFT, I don’t know much about other than it being used for pyramid schemes, so I won’t really comment.

The difference with AI is that it has made a huge difference in daily life so rapidly.
The only other thing I would say that’s been adopted so quickly and thoroughly recently are mobile phones.
Dumb then smart.

There were people saying that phones and in particular the iPhone were gimmicks and people would soon abandon them.
There were even people who set out to avoid having a phone, but nowadays in the west life without one is increasingly difficult.

To take an Industrial Revolution example, the only lasting contribution Luddites have had was to introduce the word “sabotage” to the English language.
 
Crypto’s issue is that its value is inherently unstable. If a country or multinational company decided to use bitcoin as its main currency, things would change.

I think one or two countries have declared certain types of crypto to be legal tender now. Wonder how many more need to do so in order for it to stabilize.
 
something I don't understand are the people that keep saying "two more weeks and the bubble pops!" like that suddenly means AI will vanish into the night never to be seen again. We can't go back to a pre-AI world, they have to unironically deal with it.
I tried coming up with a word for this and the closest I got to was "Tiger Ride" based off a Chinese expression: "He who rides tigers cannot easily dismount."

The bomb, fractional reserve lending, computers, and AI are tiger rides. There's no going back. Even if the market crashes, the tiger ride continues.
 
They got really cocky after they got self-precieved wins on technology, such as Cryptocurrencies, VR, Metaverses, and NFTs. They think AI will follow suit.

I personally don't think any of those technology is dead in the waters.
Yeah like FinnSven said, LLMs are much more versatile.

Blockchain was intended as an algorithm to achieve distributed consensus. Its monetary value is merely the engine that powers its adoption, but it was never the main purpose. Unfortunately, distributed consensus is mostly an academic problem. It's a solution in search of a practical issue, and that's why the technology is no longer so hyped, outside of its monetary value. NFTs were a vanity project, a scam born out of the idea of blockchain.

VR is mainly a gaming peripheral, and the attempts to expand this to the general public, such as AR or Metaverse, have largely failed. Solutions in search of a problem.

Game streaming again mostly represented a theoretical benefit, but failed to be adopted by consumers.

Unlike all of these, LLMs are actually being used by people. The average joe has adopted it. The technology not making a profit is largely due to mismanagement by Big Tech and lofty ideas about "AGI" that will eventually be corrected.
 
I tried coming up with a word for this and the closest I got to was "Tiger Ride" based off a Chinese expression: "He who rides tigers cannot easily dismount."

The bomb, fractional reserve lending, computers, and AI are tiger rides. There's no going back. Even if the market crashes, the tiger ride continues.
Hi Null. Can I ask your thoughts about the parallel between AI and Trannies, and how leftists will forever defend one with all their resources they have but they invoke the name of the lord when talking the other?

How leftists view AI is how everyone else views trannies.
- Stop injecting (AI/LGBT) into everything
- (AI/Transgenderism) is just a trend.
- It's not a real (intelligence/woman)
- I can easily tell if something is (AI Generated/a man)
- (AI/He) is an abomination to nature.
- You will never be a real (artist/woman)
 
Hi Null. Can I ask your thoughts about the parallel between AI and Trannies, and how leftists will forever defend one with all their resources they have but they invoke the name of the lord when talking the other?
"Be gay, do crime"
"Fuck copyright"
"Piracy is always morally good"
"Lmao NFT bros I can just save-image-as"

vs.

"AI should be illegal, it's trained on stolen intellectual property, it's stealing my art"
 
I tried coming up with a word for this and the closest I got to was "Tiger Ride" based off a Chinese expression: "He who rides tigers cannot easily dismount."

The bomb, fractional reserve lending, computers, and AI are tiger rides. There's no going back. Even if the market crashes, the tiger ride continues.
"Ride the Slobber-Tiger" by Nullius Evola
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I think one or two countries have declared certain types of crypto to be legal tender now. Wonder how many more need to do so in order for it to stabilize.

Had early bitcoin adopters had the idea of using it like traveler’s cheques, i.e. take a pen drive with a value in bitcoin with you while traveling, visit an exchange kiosk or special atm and get x amount in local currency, rather than carrying cash, then that could have been one way of making it palatable to the public and business.

Nowadays most credit cards and debit cards have totally eliminated the use of bearer bonds and traveler’s cheques, but there could have still been a market for those who don’t like being tracked.
 
Hi Null. Can I ask your thoughts about the parallel between AI and Trannies, and how leftists will forever defend one with all their resources they have but they invoke the name of the lord when talking the other?
I don't know what you're talking about. A lot of trannies hate AI.
 
I don't know what you're talking about. A lot of trannies hate AI.

That individual is asking why “leftists” defend trannies and hate AI.

Personally I haven’t seen any specifically left wing focused or based hatred of AI.

Certainly not any serious hatred of it outside of general anti corporate/capitalism pointed objection.

The more vocal opponents of it in that regard though that I have seen are the freedom/libertarian anti big government sort of crowd who are usually a tad more right wing in their opinion and belief.

AI in regard for the traditional left would probably be viewed as a good thing if it made the lives of workers easier and social and health care more efficient.
AI is a tool, like a hammer.
It can be used to build and break, it just depends on who is using it.
 
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