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Epstein never had a conviction in 2005. His case didnt even hit court until 2007, which he was apart of the Acosta plea deal so he never faced anything
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Meanwhile in the Spergatory thread created out of you doing the same thing you’re accusing others of…
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I don't know, my problem is unverifiable third party claims that don't logically make sense.
Obviously there's some stuff with Trump that is bad, but do I believe he's confiding in this driver who's driving Trump around for the first and apparently only time (the document says he drove limo's for 2 years and one time he drove Trump around, not that he was Trump's driver.) and he sperg's out about a time he raped some girl?
No, I don't believe that. That is insane and does not make any sense to do at all.
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It's a little hard to piece out with the names blocked but from what I can gather, this guy's ex-wife/babymomma had money problems, met with Maxwell at a hotel and met Trump. Then the mom sold her daughters to Maxwell and one of the daughters was then raped by both Trump and Epstein in this hotel. This was 1997.
Then, years later the father brings up that he met Trump back in 1995, whom also happened to be talking so loud about "Jeffery" and "abusing girls" that the random driver of a limo he didn't know could hear it. The daughter then "goes cold" and states that she was raped by them both in 1997.
This was told to the father in late 1999, after which the victim went to the police and got promptly Clinton'd only a few weeks later.
Then apparently either the mother or father was accused of "putting the family in danger" after posting all this on facebook. (So this must be sometime after 2006)
The father then decided to keep this to himself and not approach the federal authorities (including during the Epstein trials), instead waiting until 14 years later in late 2020, right before Trump would run for his second term, where he would then report it to the FBI hotline.
There are parts of this that seem a little too coincidental and piss-tape-y, especially as this is all just going off this random dudes word and only person who could verify it had already been dead for 20 years, but assuming this is indeed true, you should probably try to find the report about the girls "suicide" or the Facebook post(s) about it. We have the general timeframe, the nature of the suicide and the area it happened in. Maybe we could find out who this is supposedly talking about?
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William Sindis had his reputation as a child, Epstein got his after leaving his job at Dalton and was never in a position to prove it. He was a bad teacher and never proved his ability at math.
Regarding Sindis, he actually begun his education from an extremely young age, as has a ton of precedent for its effectiveness throughout history. It's just regarded as overbearing and cruel now. John Stuart Mill:
An even earlier example is English king Edward VI:
Compared to Sindis, their feats are more or less identical. It's just in a time period when children were now being educated generally by a teacher and had less personal attention, a child taught under such conditions looks exceptional. A lot of child prodigies who make news headlines end up just disappearing because their exceptional skill as a child becomes unexceptional once they enter adulthood, since their childhood capabilities are just what a grown person can do but sooner. The Wikipedia article even provides evidence for this.
As a child he was as capable as an adult. Then as an adult... nothing?
The common denominator between Sindis and these two examples is a strong personal upbringing from a young age. Sindis is only exceptional because society deemed him as such, which arguably undermined what his parents wanted long-term since this exceptionality pretty much meant disregarding how Sindis got so intelligent to begin with.
That's correct:
Also most of the info coming from what was conveyed by his father to the New York Times does not give me faith however, especially since his parents wanted to use Sidis as an example of their ideas working.
(Most of this article is shitting on other prodigies for not being as great as Sidis - even Mozart catches a stray, lmao.)
I'm not saying their feats are fake, just not exceptional or beyond possibility. The criteria is a combination of time, attention, and parental capability which most people can't give to their kids due to various factors. A rigorously homeschooled child can probably achieve college-level intellect before their teen years, it's just the parent/tutor needs to be capable and their focus/hobbies have to become synonymous with what they're being taught. Autists being so knowledgeable about random bullshit is because that bullshit is what entertained them.
Prodigies (uniquely intelligent/gifted children) might not even be real, just a cope and excuse to not hold child education up to higher standards.
I have my own theory on cultural development here (TLDR: Europeans record ideas to be passed down and believed that knowledge could be discovered, and there was also value in logic. Mysticism, which reigned in places like China, more or less believed that insights had to be bestowed in a sense via medication, prayer, and other practices which didn't involve the accrual of knowledge. They also shunned actually adopting Western practices/knowledge unlike places such as Japan. We saw a similar shunning in the Ottoman Empire but also with the Byzantines to some extent. Ethopia too had writing but, again, mysticism and shunning remained) that the Jews more or less abide by given they began to have a cultural revolution around the 1700s that lead to them integrating more into European culture, even if keeping to their own customs of religion.
The Jews support my viewpoint regarding the above and also support mine because he was born to Jews.
One: I'm not American. Don't insult America.
Two: I want it known that I've been called out for both perceived anti-Jew and pro-Jew sentiments in this thread.
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I don't think there is really a rational debate about this at the moment. Or at least, there might be with some people, but for most people it is about vibes. If you "just like Trump", you think he is a cool guy, or you are comfortable with the economic situation he is creating so far, you are likely to automatically dismiss the suggestion Trump is a pedo. "That's just Trump Derangement Syndrome, Orange Man Bad." Most of those opinions are locked in. Same with the people who always hated Trump, for them it was clear Trump was a pedo, they would believe any allegation.
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I guess the only method that'll really work is just waiting to see if anything concrete actually materializes
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He learned to read on his own, without any help by trying to figure out how to read newspapers, at age 2 or so. Again: I've learned how to read only in primary school, do I think I could do the same with a little help? I very much press x to doubt.
Really, people like that do not grow on trees until we figure out which gene sequences are responsible.
His piece of shit father who was a Freud wannable wanted to make a career out of him. For so he forcefully put him in his own private mental hospital and all he accomplished was to ruin his potential. After that, all Bill did was to waste his time on sports almanach statistics, communist agitation, chasing pussy and related bullshit. And predicting the existence of black holes in his spare time, for fun I presume.
Christ almighty.
You can't fake what you don't have.
Then why do you care? I've never been there but a friend was and in his words "These are some of the most gullible people I've ever seen. They're like hobbits, childish and naive. Hard-working, but incredibly stupid. I guess that's why their society works." - from a perspective of a Slav who lived under the Iron Curtain.
My great-grandfather was forced to work in the camps. What I learned from his stories is: 1. The Holocaust was frfr 2. If you're being thrown out from 100+ countries over the course of 2 millenia, then it's a You problem to the tune of the saying If everyone you meet is an asshole, then you're the asshole.
I just wish my people would learn from their mistakes instead of complaining as if being a loser was something to brag about.
Anyway, a pleasure to argue with you even if we're derailing the train a bit.
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I had no idea you were Jewish. Shalom.
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I saw that a few pages prior but couldn’t find any thing from a cursory google search.
Someone could look up suicide victims in Kiefer Oklahoma 1997. I am pretty sure they keep a record of that? Maybe an obituary of “___ Nicholis”
I’m gonna search for it, but fingers crossed obviously, the timing of it being in 2020.
EDIT: Double-checked the document, I spelled it wrong initially. Still, no dice so far. I tried Oklahoma in general, even if briefly lived there, but nothing. Considering this was October 27th 2020, and even a facebook page by a lefty is casting doubt on this, I think it's safe to say this was a failed October surprise that was simply included into the "files" because no shit is too minor.
There is so much bullshit in this dump. I am going to enjoy Christmas now.
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the DOJ are currently doing damage control over the letter, keep in mind that the FBI was already made aware of this letter in 2020 and submitted it for handwriting analysis, so all the above speculation shouldn't even really be required to ascertain whether this letter was truly penned by Epstein.
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maybe they could declassify and release these results rather than poke at things they think look inconsistent about the letter? according to themselves they've already verified the legitimacy of all the evidence and "that no further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted" so what are these retards doing now?
Barleys
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The stuff they bring up is a good point you can't deny it. These files have already been shown to have false information like the Epstein suicide video which is an old cgi video sent to them over email. So none of the addresses or times matching up with what is known is a good point.
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The only thing I'm seeing is Terry Nichols related to OKC bombing. There seems to be some confusion in the documents, image 2-3 (look at the ID on top left) are the same document the name is John W Nichols.
It's really hard to see where John Doe #2 aka Nichols fits into the story because of redactions but it said something about setting someone up for a bomb.
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I see it in my head as a 1995 summer comedy, starring either Eddie Murphy, Tyler Perry or the Wayans brothers, playing both male and female roles. Officer Laqueefa Sharonda Jones sees that Epstein's top bunk is missing a bedsheet, gets closer to the door, then yells. "Aw, HELL NO. I ain gonna clean up no dead ol' honkeypervert. DANTE!" Officer Dontavius King'Fellatio Williams enters the scene from around the corner. "Girl, whatchuw- god DAMN! Dat man is dead! I ain touchin him neither, he can go clean up his own mess." Rated PG13.
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Someone on Reddit (God help us) found this brief mention in a local paper. Age/location/time period seem to match. Appears her name was Dusti Rhea Duke.
ETA: Her stepfather made the complaint that's in the files and has been continuously fighting to hold people accountable.
His Facebook post provides more detail about the incident. (Archive)
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What?
Bezos got a $250k loan for free(it was for a 5% stake in the company if I remember right, which obviously they made out like bandits on) from his parents back in 1995 to start amazon. That's $540k today. Bezos didn't simply do well in school and start a website, he had his parents just give him the equivalent of a half million dollars today to do it. That's not to say that he was just handed millions of dollars, but lets not pretend he didn't have parents wealthy enough to provide him with a pretty damned big advantage.
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A few twitter reactions:
Someone who knows the american prison system better than me could confirm.
who mtracey was quote tweeting: lol it's lincoln project. Replies are likely not going as they hoped. Some are reminding him of this:
John Weaver, a longtime Republican political consultant and co-founder of The Lincoln Project (an anti-Trump super PAC launched in 2019), became the center of a major scandal in early 2021.
In January 2021, more than 20 young men accused Weaver of sending them unsolicited, sexually provocative messages over several years, often while offering professional help or jobs in politics. At least one accuser reported receiving messages starting when he was 14 (becoming more explicit after turning 1. Reports from outlets like The New York Times and others detailed these allegations, describing the behavior as predatory and exploitative, though no physical encounters were alleged except one consensual case, and no unlawful conduct was claimed.
Weaver, who had taken a medical leave from The Lincoln Project in summer 2020, acknowledged sending "inappropriate" messages in a statement to Axios, coming out as gay and apologizing, while saying he viewed some as consensual. The Lincoln Project condemned him as a "predator, a liar, and an abuser," stating they were shocked and had been deceived. Weaver did not return to the organization.
The scandal deepened with reports that some Lincoln Project leaders knew about allegations as early as June 2020 (or earlier), leading to resignations (including Steve Schmidt), internal turmoil, and an external investigation. It significantly damaged the group's reputation, though it continued operations. As of late 2025, there are no major public updates on Weaver beyond the 2021 events. He has maintained a low profile since the scandal, and recent searches show no new developments, legal actions, or further statements from him. The Lincoln Project remains active in anti-Trump efforts but has faced ongoing criticism over finances and past handling of the Weaver issue.
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did anyone mention they released an (mostly) unredacted version on accident?
Barleys
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Some things to point out, people are trying to argue that the fact the letter is postmarked 13th is because of processing and could easily have been written beforehand then processed later.
But as we see here the handwriting goes over the date so it was clearly written afterwards.
But as we see here the handwriting goes over the date so it was clearly written afterwards.