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Should be a wild four years.

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Donald: *enforces a strong border against México, becomes way, WAY more choosy on who gets to come to the United States, and eports illegal immigrants who rape, murder, and coerce others into joining their gangs*
Social Justice Warriors: 'If you deport all of the Latinos, then the agricultural sector will collapse, and America will starve! Can you see that fascism kills?'
Donald: *imports white Boers, who even their names mean 'farmers'*
Social Justice Warriors: 'Wait, no‒'
 
many will just go with the lie that he took the gift for himself since it fits their world view of Trump.
it's going to his presidential library after his term so that doesnt help things



"You see Saudi Arabia and you see UAE and you see Qatar and they these brand new Boeing 747s — and you see ours next to it,"
@POTUS
says of the 40-year-old Air Force One plane."We're the United States of America. I believe we should have the most impressive plane."

 
Pennsylvania (Woman) District Judge decided that her job is to apply the law, and therefore, Trump's deportations under the Alien Enemy Act are valid. She further ruled that she can't review his proclamations (just like SCOTUS said)
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Wow. Imagine applying the fucking law and leaving your own politics at the door. Unfathomably based. A Judge did something good.
 
Boeing needs to be chased out of the country for what they've done with Starship, the AF1, 737 Max, and SLS and more. They've beyond useless and I don't even want them on the F47 6th ben fighter anymore, even though the US does need to have more than a few good suppliers on tech/military, they just can't do it.
 
a reminder how the Saudi's treated Trump and biden.
Denn Dunham - Biden vs Trump in Saudi Arabia. Can you see the difference. Benny Jo....mp4


So Obama gained control of the DNC? Or is Rahm gonna do his own thing?
The Saudis love Trump as one of their own. He is the prince's friend. Truly. Honestly good for stability in the ME. I listened to his speech twice today. I hope that the countries there grow with us, but nor under us. As friends, not master and slave.
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Fucking good. We give away SO MUCH military equipment FOR FREE because we have so much of it to small allied nations, that in a time of need, its nice that Qatar is like " yo we got a mint condition 747-8 that has 20 years or something left in her, want to use it as a token of good will?". Fuck man, it feels good, especially after looking at SO MANY military equipment lists that go "gifted from USA". Thank you for the Jet.

Our current Air Force One, which is 2 jets, the Boeing VC-25 were manufactured from 1986 to 1990. They are fucking ancient. It's only through maintenance diligence that they keep going.
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Boeing needs to be chased out of the country for what they've done with Starship, the AF1, 737 Max, and SLS and more. They've beyond useless and I don't even want them on the F47 6th ben fighter anymore, even though the US does need to have more than a few good suppliers on tech/military, they just can't do it.
they need to be nationalized ASAP, they are too important to fail and all they've done is fail
 
Boeing needs to be chased out of the country for what they've done with Starship, the AF1, 737 Max, and SLS and more. They've beyond useless and I don't even want them on the F47 6th ben fighter anymore, even though the US does need to have more than a few good suppliers on tech/military, they just can't do it.
Boeing needs to be made great again. They are American pride. Look up the 727. They didn't cut corners with that trijet. They SPENT money selling a better product and it paid off. The Macdonald Douglas merger crippled them. Brought in the penny pinchers. It wasn't even DEI, too early. It was corporate suits looking to shave off every last bit of quality control they could to extract more money from the company. It's why Douglas had to merge at all.
*A judge did nothing.

It is sad that a judge staying in their lane and doing their job is considered a noteworthy feat.
Sad, but unfortunately it must be noted.
 
I think Trump should accept the Qatari 747 as a personal gift. Then he should have it outfitted with the weapon complement of the AC130 from Call of Duty 4 and he should use it on those domestic enemies whom I personally dislike.
 
Everyone should be. Middle Eastern stability appears to track not just with having a Sunni majority, but with how overwhelming the Sunni majority is. Palestinians are the main exception to this, but for reference the Shia majority countries are Iran, Iraq, and Bahrain. Yemen and Syria have smaller Sunni majorities, so of course they have civil wars
Whatever sect Oman is needs to be in charge. They're the only middle east place you never hear about getting in wars and shit.
 
American business titans greet Trump in Saudi Arabia
Politico (archive.ph)
By Irie Sentner
2025-05-13 20:26:00GMT
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President Donald Trump and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman pose for a photo at the King Abdulaziz International Conference Center in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, May 13, 2025. | Alex Brandon/AP full-size

When President Donald Trump, flanked by Arabian horses, entered the Saudi Arabian Royal Court for an opulent state visit on Tuesday, he was met by an entourage of American business leaders representing a strikingly high-profile cross-section of the economy.

Dozens of CEOs of the world’s largest banks, hedge funds, defense contractors, tech firms and energy companies flew thousands of miles to Riyadh, where they descended on a lavish lunch with the president and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Elon Musk was there, as was his restaurateur brother, Kimbal. So were the CEOs of Google, OpenAI, Nvidia, Uber, Blackrock, Blackstone and dozens of other moguls representing Fortune 500 companies or their own family offices.

It was an unusually large, and unusually VIP, cadre of guests for a presidential foreign trip — the latest instance in which the American elite, once reproachful of Trump, has swiftly moved to impress him.

“It is emblematic of both how foreign governments try to lobby this president because of his business interests in their countries, and how the private sector has bent the knee,” said Donald Sherman, executive director and chief counsel at the Citizens for Responsibility in Washington, a watchdog group that is suing the Trump administration.

The nearly three dozen business leaders were invited by the Saudi government, according to two White House officials and two other people close to the administration, all granted anonymity to discuss logistics, showing the extent to which a foreign government is trying to curry favor with the American president. Trump and his advisers have said expanding American business would be the primary goal of his first major foreign trip. And the kingdom, which has invested billions of dollars in Trump’s family businesses, was eager to help him make good on that vow.

“There’s no better place to make a future, or make a fortune, or do anything, frankly, than what we have in the United States of America under a certain President Donald J. Trump,” Trump said during an investment forum that served as the most high-profile visit of the day.

In Riyadh, the president signed an agreement with the Saudis to invest $600 billion in the United States and with U.S.-based companies, including a $142 billion pact to supply the kingdom weapons and other military equipment from over a dozen American defense firms.

“Investment increased by 22 percent in President Trump’s first quarter because business leaders around the world want to participate in the new Golden Age of America,” White House deputy press secretary Anna Kelly said in a statement to POLITICO. “The President was proud to celebrate the ever-growing partnership between the United States and Saudi Arabia and a Middle East built on commerce, not chaos.”

The guest list included representatives from several companies that donated millions of dollars to Trump’s record-breaking inaugural committee, including OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, both of whom gave $1 million personally and $1 million through their companies. Also in attendance was Patrick Soon-Shiong, the biotech billionaire and owner of the Los Angeles Times, who reportedly instructed the paper’s liberal editorial board not to make a presidential endorsement in the 2024 election. And Musk, a top White House adviser given broad powers to slash federal spending as his companies’ regulatory issues fall away, got to bring his brother as well as two “escorts,” including Antonio Gracias, a fellow billionaire and DOGE member now embedded in the Social Security Administration. A DOGE spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment.

Earlier this week, in response to questions about Trump’s business interests in the Middle Eastern countries where he is making the first multi-day foreign trip of his second term, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters it would be “ridiculous to suggest that President Trump is doing anything for his own benefit” and that “this White House holds ourselves to the highest of ethical standards.”

Later in the week, Trump said he plans to accept a jetliner, valued around $400 million, from the Qatari royal family for use as Air Force One that would be donated to his presidential library after the end of his term. He called it “a great gesture from Qatar” and suggested it would be “stupid” not to take it.

Many of the Wall Street heavyweights in attendance in Riyadh, including BlackRock founder Larry Fink and Blackstone Group’s Stephen Schwarzman, have counted on Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund as a client and investor for years. Riyadh has emerged as a major investment hub over the last decade and top financiers have been flocking to the region to raise investment capital and source new deals. Several CEOs in Riyadh for the summit had also been speakers at last year’s Future Investment Initiative conference, which is sponsored by a nonprofit that’s overseen by Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund.

“These are all people who do big business in [Saudi Arabia],” said a person who has worked with the Saudis, granted anonymity to discuss their business dealings. The business leaders “travel regularly to kiss [Bin Salman’s] ring,” the person added.

The Saudi embassy in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

At least one invitee, LinkedIn co-founder and major Democratic donor Reid Hoffman, didn’t make the trip. The White House listed Hoffman as attending, but his chief of staff quickly went to social media to correct the record.

But other attendees appeared to have vested interests in an audience with the president.

One surprising participant was Miami Mayor Francis Suarez, who briefly ran for the Republican nomination for president and will be term-limited out of his job as mayor in November. He has expressed interest in becoming U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, three people with ties to Miami politics told POLITICO. The people were granted anonymity to relay private conversations.

The job of Miami mayor is considered to be part time. Suarez also works as a lawyer for the firm Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, which has an office in Riyadh. As mayor, he helped bring the Saudi sovereign wealth fund’s Future Investment Initiative to Miami and spoke at the trade conference in February. Suarez spokesperson Ana Isabel Hume said the mayor’s public and private sector roles “together expand his reach and impact” and that expenses for the trip didn’t come from the city of Miami.

The White House did not directly answer a question about whether Suarez was in the mix for the job or who invited him to the luncheon in Riyadh.

The tech delegation in Riyadh leaned heavily toward AI companies, cloud providers and chipmakers — a sector of the industry that has come to see the Middle East as a rich source of both investment cash and customers.

The trip was accompanied by a flurry of business announcements, many tied to Saudi state-controlled investment funds and companies. Google, Oracle, Salesforce, AMD and Uber pledged $80 billion toward joint tech investments. Google and the Saudi sovereign wealth fund announced more details about a planned AI Hub aimed at accelerating AI adoption across key industries in the kingdom. American chipmaking giant Nvidia said it would build “AI factories of the future” in the kingdom. And a slate of companies, including Nvidia, Qualcomm, AMD and AWS announced strategic partnerships with the new Saudi AI firm Humain, backed by Bin Salman.

Kimberly Leonard, Felicia Schwartz, Christine Mui, Mohar Chatterjee, Sam Sutton, Dasha Burns, Jake Traylor and Ali Bianco contributed to this report.
LA Times owner maneuvers into Trump’s orbit with Middle East meeting
Politico (archive.ph)
By Will McCarthy
2025-05-13 18:34:00GMT
The billionaire owner of the Los Angeles Times has gotten closer – literally – to President Donald Trump after steadily shifting his newspaper to the right.

Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, a biotech entrepreneur who acquired his city’s ailing broadsheet in 2018, was spotted in conversation Tuesday with Trump as the president held court with major U.S. business executives during a visit to Saudi Arabia.

Soon-Shiong is a prominent figure in a deep-blue U.S. city but he posted a video of his encounter with Trump on social media and said he was honored to meet the president along with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the de facto leader of Saudi Arabia.

The doctor said he and bin Salman share a “common goal to cure cancer” and he praised the “wonderful” conference in which the kingdom corralled a cross-section of business leaders for the first major overseas trip of the second Trump administration.

At the event, Soon-Shiong stood in a private audience with the president and bin Salman, speaking animatedly to two of the most powerful men in the world.

The White House said Trump is “delivering on his promise to Make America Great Again by catalyzing investment” with the Saudi trip in a statement that made no mention of Soon-Shiong, who drew scorn in Los Angeles for directing the editorial board to stop making presidential endorsements ahead of the November election.

The entrepreneur was one of about a dozen wealthy American executives who attended the lunch in Riyadh, including Open AI chief executive Sam Altman and Elon Musk.

Soon-Shiong’s appearance with Trump on the first day of the president’s week-long trip to the Middle East highlights the sharp turn by the owner of one of the country’s largest newspaperswhose family had served as major donors to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

Since then, Soon-Shiong has moved ever closer to Trump, unsuccessfully angling for a place in his first administration, appearing in conservative media, and accusing his own newspaper of editorial bias and becoming an “echo chamber” for progressive politics.

That transition came to a public head last fall when Soon-Shiong stunned the Los Angeles Times editorial board after overruling its decision to endorse Vice President Kamala Harris. Several members of the board and newspaper staff have since departed.

“I said, ‘This is unacceptable.’ And as you can see, because it’s a left lean, they wrote terrible stories about President [Donald] Trump,” Soon-Shiong told Tucker Carlson in a March interview. “So my statement to them was, ‘You may have an opinion, but all of us should have opinions based on facts.’”

“I took a lot of heat because the editorial board resigned,” he said. “I can just say they were not happy.”

Soon-Shiong’s appearance came as he tried to attract more conservative readers to his newspaper. He also announced plans for an AI-powered “bias meter” to gauge the fairness of opinion articles.

Former employees, including Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Molly O’Toole, called Soon-Shiong’s audience with Trump and Saudi leaders “shameful,” noting that the paper had previously published stories on “modern slavery” in the country and the assasination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, which the CIA concluded had been directed by bin Salman.

The L.A. Times had no immediate comment on the visit.
 
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This tweet from him changes how I feel about the plane entirely. I was good with him accepting it on behalf of the US Government from the beginning. I wasn't cool with him sending it to his Presidential Library afterwards, because I thought it was a waste of taxpayer money (retrofitting it to be an Airforce One will cost quite a bit).

Now that I know that it will remain as Airforce One until its replacement arrives some time in the 2030s, I'm cool with it. Qatar Airforce One will probably need major renovations and overhaul by then, we'll have a brand-new Airforce One ready to be delivered, so let's send Qatar Airforce One to the Trump Library and let them pay for the second set of renovations and overhaul. Sounds like a good plan.
 
Boeing needs to be chased out of the country for what they've done with Starship, the AF1, 737 Max, and SLS and more. They've beyond useless and I don't even want them on the F47 6th ben fighter anymore, even though the US does need to have more than a few good suppliers on tech/military, they just can't do it.
Legit, the moment they bought McDonnell-Douglas and became a defacto monopoly is when they went to shit. Pathetic really.

Honestly, maybe Trump should nudge Lockheed back into producing commercial jets, competition encourages growth.

So many industries where we either have monopolies or oligopolies.
 
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