Texas' 6-week abortion ban goes into effect after U.S. Supreme Court stays silent - Wine aunts on suicide watch

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Washington — A controversial Texas law banning abortions after six weeks of pregnancy went into effect at midnight after the U.S. Supreme Court did not act on a request from pro-abortion rights groups and providers to block it before early Wednesday.
The law is one of the nation's most restrictive, prohibiting nearly all abortions in the state, the abortion rights groups warned. The high court is expected to issue a decision on the bid from the providers.
In addition to outlawing abortion as early as six weeks into a pregnancy — before most women know they're pregnant — the measure allows private citizens to bring civil lawsuits against anyone who provides an abortion after six weeks or helps a woman access the procedure, such as a friend who drives a woman to obtain an abortion, or clinic staff. Those found in violation of the law are required to pay at least $10,000 to the person who successfully brought the suit.
The pro-abortion rights organizations had warned that, if permitted to take effect, the ban "would immediately and catastrophically reduce abortion access in Texas." The groups included Planned Parenthood, the Center for Reproductive Rights, the ACLU and abortion providers. They estimated that at least 85% of women who undergo abortions in Texas are at least six weeks pregnant and warned the law would force many clinics to close.
"Patients who can scrape together resources will be forced to attempt to leave the state to obtain an abortion, and many will be delayed until later in pregnancy," lawyers representing the abortion providers wrote to the Supreme Court. "The remaining Texans who need an abortion will be forced to remain pregnant against their will or to attempt to end their pregnancies without medical supervision."
But Texas officials argued the claims raised by the abortion providers and advocacy groups were "hyperbolic" and said they "have not shown that they will be personally harmed by a bill that may never be enforced against them by anyone, much less by the governmental defendants."
"If any party is facing irreparable injury in this application, it is respondents, along with the state they serve and its people," they said in a filing with the Supreme Court.
Governor Greg Abbott, a Republican, signed the measure into law in May, with Texas joining a dozen other states that have passed laws banning abortions at early stages in pregnancy. Known as "heartbeat bills," they seek to ban the procedures after a fetal heartbeat can first be detected.
But pro-abortion rights advocates argue the measures, which have been blocked by federal courts from taking effect, are unconstitutional and violate Roe v. Wade, the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision that established a woman's right to an abortion. The court has found a woman can terminate a pregnancy before fetal viability, which generally occurs around 24 weeks.
Abortion rights groups argue the Texas law differs from the others because it incentivizes members of the public, rather than state officials, to enforce the ban, and they claim state lawmakers designed the measure that way to insulate it from federal judicial review.
"Texans, like everyone else in this country, should be able to count on safe abortion care in their own state," Amy Hagstrom Miller, president and CEO of Whole Woman's Health, which runs abortion clinics, said in a statement Monday. "No one should be forced to drive hundreds of miles or be made to continue a pregnancy against their will, yet that's what will happen unless the Supreme Court steps in."
The groups' request for Supreme Court action in the dispute came after a federal appeals court in Texas delayed a district court hearing set for Monday and denied their bid to speed up consideration of the case or stop the law from taking effect pending appeal.
The pro-abortion rights groups warned that without Supreme Court intervention, Texas would be allowed to ban abortions after six weeks before the justices consider a legal battle over an abortion law from Mississippi this fall.
The Supreme Court said in May it would take up a blockbuster dispute over Mississippi's ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, presenting the first test of the limits of abortion access to go before the court's expanded conservative majority.
In that case, Republican-led states including Texas are calling for the court to overrule Roe and uphold Mississippi's 15-week ban.
 
Typically conception is regarded as the cutoff because it's the point at which two materially "incomplete as a human" gametes become a genetically distinct singular entity with human potential. Masturbation and menstruation aren't "abortions" because lone sperm cells and discarded egg cells do not individually posses human potential (i.e sperm and eggs alone can live out the remainder of their life cycle never becoming human regardless of what resources become available to them).
 
lone sperm cells and discarded egg cells do not individually posses human potential
I'll preface this by saying thanks for actually engaging this discussion.

I don't understand the "potential" argument. Why is the potential of a fetus a consideration, we typically do not factor what something one day will be into how it will be treated today. It seems to me that could open up some absurd conclusions.
>all humans will one day be dead so we can treat them like they are already a corpse
Why does it matter what it one day will be? It is what it is today.
 
It seems to me that could open up some absurd conclusions.
>all humans will one day be dead so we can treat them like they are already a corpse
Why does it matter what it one day will be? It is what it is today.
It's more that we, typically, should allow things to go along their natural progression with as minimal destructive interference as possible. Yes, death lies along said progression, but we typically try not to hasten death without just cause.
Consider that a sick child (say, 8 years old, well removed from the debate of abortion) is useless in the now. Ordinarily, we would not take that to mean we shouldn't waste resources on them and leave them to suffer. We help them in the hope that they will one day not be sick. Life might be a losing battle, but abortion is throwing in the towel for somebody else.
 
If you are too stupid to simply use a condom, you are too stupid to vote, simple as
 
A lot of the people in the debate even here know instinctually abortion is wrong. See the gravitas Android raptor freya etc give it. That "I'm doing a bad thing in your face" vibe. Most people know as a form of family planning/population control its fucked up on some level whether they think its literally murder or not.

So the question is really, do we allow something that most everyone instinctually agrees is fucked up and socially maladaptive (as in if most people did this society would collapse).
It’s a dangerous move as it’s made coathangers the next best option. People die from attempting to perform abortions on themselves.

Killing should be dangerous and not easy. Especially the killing of children.

Lmao fuck texas, all the people that support this law should be gifted a 1-way ticket to Afghanistan because this some Taliban shit
I still do pray for you on occasion and hope you are getting help.
 
As a guy who's almost to the pixel on the fence, to me, for one thing it's a states rights issue (or should be, at least), and this is a state deciding what it wants to do for itself. I as well dislike the attitude from people who are pro-choice that consequence free sex is a human right as it's practically incel logic - if that's what your advocating for then why not advocate for state mandated girlfriends/boyfriends or whatever. On top of that, we live in an era where there's so many different compounding ways to prevent pregnancy, that there's really no excuse. I've heard the "no contraceptive is %100" shit before, to which I'll respond that if you show me the baby that got through a birth control regimen and a condom, I'll show you a baby that fought like hell to get conceived in the first place.

All of that said, I dislike top-down measures like this and I sure as hell don't like the idea of paying people five figures to snitch on each other for what is essentially a societal issue with no "real" victims - whatever your views on the humanity of a fetus may be, there's no post-birth people walking around who are harmed by abortions being performed properly. That's fucked up.
 
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This was a common sense law that most Americans agree with; Banning certain types of abortion will actually strengthen abortion rights.
 
JimminyNigger standing in for HHH? It's more likely than you think.

With each passing day, I grow more and more sure that there's a gay little Discord server, where all those faggots coordinate their posting. Call me a schizo.
Nah, that would be giving them too much credit for being smart enough to coordinate their retarded hammering of this board.
 
JimminyNigger standing in for HHH? It's more likely than you think.

With each passing day, I grow more and more sure that there's a gay little Discord server, where all those faggots coordinate their posting. Call me a schizo.

Try PM chains. :story:

Now THAT'S more likely than you think, and to think they once all had a nice little 100-page spergfest about how gay that is shortly before the thread-owner got permabanned. But then, contrarians and low effort gimmick accounts moving goalposts ain't nothing new under the sun.

Euphorics continue to seethe and the world goes on turning. Just close your legs or take some responsibility, whores. :shit-eating:
 

How have we not yet seen some troon at planned parenthood take some fetus parts and cram it in their axe wound and close it up to pretend they're pregnant? Then when the rotten, festering abomination erupts they can have gender euphoria at everyone in a 20 mile radius smelling their "water breaking"
 
How have we not yet seen some troon at planned parenthood take some fetus parts and cram it in their axe wound and close it up to pretend they're pregnant? Then when the rotten, festering abomination erupts they can have gender euphoria at everyone in a 20 mile radius smelling their "water breaking"
Why would you do something like this to us?
 
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