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So in France you will need the vaxx to eat at any restaurant or go shopping. And now in the US, Biden will support states, cities, or businesses/organizations that ban you without a vaxx card.



So all over the world, they're lifting restrictions, only to turn around and restrict people more. Rad.


Boris of bongland has tried doing this with the pubs. He said that he wanted them to get a system going where they only served customers that had proof of vaxx. Ihre papiere, bitte?

Haven't heard any more about that. Filed under 'Good luck with that', probably. He said the same thing to nightclubs - you should only be letting in people who are vaxxed and can prove so. Imagine the fucking headache that would be, for pub or club! And imagine how effective it would be. Last time I visited a pub I had to write down my name and mobile no. So I gave two falsies. Are nightclub bouncers going to be versed in the fine art of forgery now? I mean, if you can forge a fucking passport which kind of has to be semi-convincing for you to have the balls to walk through customs with it, how hard can it be for a horny young 19 year old graphic designer to knock something up on his home printer?

The only way it would become effective is if it was mandated in law like the smoking ban in pubs and clubs was. At the beginning the landlords and club owners said 'this will put us out of business, it won't be enforceable, people will just ignore it'...

But surely enough, as the landlords' and owners' licenses were threatened, they called the police pretty quick and people were getting arrested on the spot, heavy fines, made examples of. And all of course widely publicized in the media/papers/news. Pour encourager les autres.

In fact when it was first brought up in the news they so much as said that it was the govt's way of encouraging more younger people to get vaxxed. I encourage my wife to have sex with me in a similar fashion: I beat her with a big stick until she submits. What the govt. are doing is plain soft coercion. Let's see how that works out for them. And how long it will take to go to 'big stick' method if it doesn't.

What I think will happen is they will enforce this vaxx passport bs by more 'federal' means so to speak. For example travel and transport, holidays, anywhere where they hold a bit more clout and can enforce things to a greater degree. There's nothing stopping them from bringing in a law though that says you do indeed need to show a tattoo mark to get served in a shop or enter a pub. It's pieces of paper for now, but it won't be long before it's body markings all 666 fashion.

And no man shall be able to buy or trade...

I can't help think a lot of this is just tripling down anyway because this whole thing has been a charade from start to finish, and they know we know, and that we know they know.

I'm still not sure what all this fuckery has been about, but it's got fuck all with people catching a rare cold and the most infirm and vulnerable kicking off the clogs. And see how well it's worked for them. How much they have got a significant percentage of the populace to go along with it and more than that do their dirty work. All the while, shops are shut, mental health down the drain, suicides through the roof (because people can't access already practically non-existent services, that just are NOT there any more, not even by phone). And because one half of the population has been taking crazy fucking pills, while the other half feels like they've been taking fucking crazy pills. I certainly feel as if I have. Is it just me or is the whole world fucking mad? Is this how it's supposed to be?

And on the front page of the BBC News? 2 days running a black footballer is slagging of priti patel for saying that 'taking the knee' was the wrong kind of gesture. I paraphrase. He doesn't accept her words when she condemns the racism shown by the British public (very few of them) towards the 3 black players that missed the penalties for England. Not good enough for him. As he scowls there on the front page with his little golly wog dreadlocks and bitter face.

That cancer article related to covid was only up for a few hours, then it was gone! What is more important?

Mental health is no joke, but then again neither is cancer. Just as I predicted and talked about before (no, not Nostradumbass, just commone sense) the backlogs for serious diseases and cancer will become insane. And they have. There is currently a 9 month waiting list to clear the backlog of cancer patients that should already have been seen. I'm not sure how they work this out, but it's not good whichever way you look at it.

Cancer backlog in England to be cleared 'by March 2022'​


NHS England cancer chiefs say they intend to clear the backlog of patients waiting for cancer treatment caused by the pandemic by March 2022.

Of particular concern are the estimated 36,000 people who did not come forward for early diagnosis last year.

NHS bosses are working with GPs to ensure face-to-face appointments are being used to detect early cancers.




To quote Bill Hicks here: Yeah because of you, you fuckers!

they didn't come forward



And I have a close family member who may have Parkinsons - all the signs are there. And they can not get an appointment with the neurology dept. for at least 9 months. That is for emergency referrals. They've been waiting weeks for a referral as well from their GP who has just gone to shit; the surgery that is. Good doctors leaving, bad doctors not even pretending to care any more. Just big signs up saying WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ABUSE FROM PATIENTS.

Fuck me, they are the abusers the gaslighting cunts.

It's also not possible to get dental treatment on the NHS anymore. Yah, truly the envy of the world we are. But lots of dentists who will charge you 300-400 bucks for a consultation, checkup and filling. It's the first time in my life I've not been able to get dental treatment. This country is going down the shitter fast. And all because of Covid apparently. I was told, don't even think about registering with us for another 6 months. In fact, most surgeries said it would be at least a year before things are back to 'normal'.

It's fooking grim oop north, ah tell thee!

But don't worry, it's only going to get worse, because this isn't going away. And fuck anyone who says I'm blackpilling man, or doomposting man, or that's just my opinion man. We've all predicted as much. None of this made sense from after the very start of this fiasco. And nothing makes any sense about it now. Unless you see it from a viewpoint of mass control via consolidation of power. I don't know about any 'great reset' - sounds plausible. I don't honestly know of any greater agenda. But just like a cow that doesn't know why it's being led to the slaughterhouse, it does actually know it IS being led to the slaughterhouse: sooner or later you pick up things from your senses, your eyes, your ears, just like the cows pick up on shrieks of terror from their fellow cows and even the smell of fear from their fellow cows.

We are both cows and frogs though. Both cattle to be herded but also frogs to be boiled ever so slowly. And for some reason when things were going so well, they decided to turn up the heat so that even the lowly specimens would get an inkling of the game afoot. Just like Facebook bring in new outrageous measures, then dial it back and say sorry it was a mistake, do they, the government, push and pull, and prod us and poke us.

And the internet is the perfect AI Machine Learning mechanism, all in real time. And see how they corral us here and there as it suits them, closing off and ending certain entry and exit points to wrong-thinkers. Look what is happening with this very site now. Same thing that happened to many sites before.

Unless you have the digital imprimatur *. See John Walker:

How big brother and big media can put the Internet genie back in the bottle.


Over the last two years I have become deeply and increasingly pessimistic about the future of liberty and freedom of speech, particularly in regard to the Internet. This is a complete reversal of the almost unbounded optimism I felt during the 1994–1999 period when public access to the Internet burgeoned and innovative new forms of communication appeared in rapid succession. In that epoch I was firmly convinced that universal access to the Internet would provide a countervailing force against the centralisation and concentration in government and the mass media which act to constrain freedom of expression and unrestricted access to information. Further, the Internet, properly used, could actually roll back government and corporate encroachment on individual freedom by allowing information to flow past the barriers erected by totalitarian or authoritarian governments and around the gatekeepers of the mainstream media.


What is happening now with Covid and everything we talk about in this thread, is the meatspace version of putting the genie back in the bottle.

What is happening now with this website and everything being talked about in other threads, is the internet version of putting the genie back in the bottle.

Off topic, excuse me. But relevant I would say. And unless I've read the room wrong, I don't think there's many of you would disagree. If nothing else, read that article!

Because vaxx passports are nothing else other than some kind of 'imprimatur', which without, will make ordinary folk second-class citizens in their own country.

Just as those who run websites like this, without having the 'digital imprimatur' seal of approval by the higher church, will have their voices taken away from them.

There are some frightening parallels there I'm sure you'd agree.

* An imprimatur (sometimes abbreviated as impr., from Latin, "let it be printed") is a declaration authorizing publication of a book. The term is also applied loosely to any mark of approval or endorsement. The imprimatur rule in the Roman Catholic Church effectively dates from the dawn of printing,



Mark of the beast. Seal of approval. It's all the same: the coercive stamp or seal or 'certificate' that only perpetuates the status quo (rich getting richer, power only flowing in one direction) and disempowers the individual en masse, and by virtue of this, society as a whole.


I fully expect enough puzzle pieces to do a whole fucking jigsaw for this fucking cunt of a post, and I'd better get them too, lest spastics like me be left to roam free thinking they can just shit up a thread like this and get away with it.



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Sebastian Eubank died after 'massive heart attack', widow says​



Sebastian Eubank died after a "massive heart attack" that was linked to a pre-existing heart condition of which his family was unaware, his widow has said.
The son of former middleweight boxing champion Chris Eubank died on Friday, a month after becoming a father.
Eubank is a biggish deal over here, and his son was a health nut. It's not mentioned in the article, but I bet this is the same as the case of the scottish disk jockey who died "after a short illness" the other month, after getting a mrna vaccine.

An inflamed heart would present as an unnoticed pre-existing heart condition. I'd lay good odds on "he was just vaccinated" coming out in the next couple of weeks.
 
In the case of COVID its happening in a matter of months because the virus is evolving faster than statists/collectivists can ever hope to vaccinate the entirety of Homos sapiens.

Also because boosters = extra profits
(honestly I should buy stock in Pfizer at this point)
So you think that the virus is evolving faster because Pfizer wants more profits? So you think the virus does Pfizer's bidding? And you claim to be a biologist? :story:
 
So you think that the virus is evolving faster because Pfizer wants more profits? So you think the virus does Pfizer's bidding? And you claim to be a biologist? :story:
The more obvious reading of the last line would be that Pfizer is pushing extra boosters not out of medical need, but out of a desire to get profits and better returns for their shareholders. It's not as if they are working out of the goodness of their hearts, Pollyanna.

This is also supported because they had plans for boosters long before they could have known if it would be necessary. Boosters are actually really infrequent for most vaccines. Flu shots aren't boosters at all, but entirely different shots for different species of viruses that we all lumped together.
 
The more obvious reading of the last line would be that Pfizer is pushing extra boosters not out of medical need, but out of a desire to get profits and better returns for their shareholders. It's not as if they are working out of the goodness of their hearts, Pollyanna.

This is also supported because they had plans for boosters long before they could have known if it would be necessary. Boosters are actually really infrequent for most vaccines. Flu shots aren't boosters at all, but entirely different shots for different species of viruses that we all lumped together.
If it wasn't evolving, there wouldn't be a need for the boosters.

He also claimed that the vaccine was causing the mutations in the other covid thread, but now is claiming the exact opposite by saying not enough people were vaccinated. He must've done more Biologist Research at Google University which made him change his mind
 
Since when has propaganda pushed so relentlessly across all platforms in unison ever been true?
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So you think that the virus is evolving faster because Pfizer wants more profits? So you think the virus does Pfizer's bidding? And you claim to be a biologist? :story:
Good God, not only are you an assmad faggot who doesn't understand how Evolution works, you also lack reading comprehension you low-functioning idiot.

The virus is evolving because nature.
This has nothing to do with coincidental action by big pharma companies to maximize profits, which is also likely happening independently.
Nowhere in my post did it even imply the two were linked factors, and certainly nowhere did it imply the former circumstance (viral evolution) was dependent on the latter (big pharma trying to squeeze in another booster-bux).

I can't tell if you are being disingenuous and intentionally reading in bad-faith or if you are genuinely mentally incapable of comprehending simple sentences.
He also claimed that the vaccine was causing the mutations in the other covid thread, but now is claiming the exact opposite by saying not enough people were vaccinated.
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I've never said either.

The mutations aren't happening because of the vaccine, the mutations are happening randomly anyways; the vaccine just creates environmental pressure which favors those mutations that can better infect vaccinated hosts.

Plants with better protected seeds don't create finches with stronger beaks, the plants merely inadvertently create pressure which favors the birds with stronger beaks.
 
If it wasn't evolving, there wouldn't be a need for the boosters.
Which is why Fauci and co. told Pfizer to STFU about boosters... for now. Obviously, Pfizer cares more about getting more money by giving more shots immediately than a real need at the moment. Pfizer has always been a pretty greedy and shady company. They just got a bit too forward with their plans and forget to run it past master first, or paying off the right people.
 
Good God, not only are you an assmad faggot who doesn't understand how Evolution works, you also lack reading comprehension you low-functioning idiot.

The virus is evolving because nature.
This has nothing to do with coincidental action by big pharma companies to maximize profits, which is also likely happening independently.
Nowhere in my post did it even imply the two were linked factors, and certainly nowhere did it imply the former circumstance (viral evolution) was dependent on the latter (big pharma trying to squeeze in another booster-bux).

I can't tell if you are being disingenuous and intentionally reading in bad-faith or if you are genuinely mentally incapable of comprehending simple sentences.
You literally were blaming it on the vaccine in the other covid thread. My god, you're such a bullshitter.

And I literally showed you a source, from a health system, about how vaccinations will slow the mutations, but you still tardraged about "population bottleneck" and how those scientists totally don't know about that but you, an uneducated retard who pretends to be a biologist on a shitposting site, does. It's still funny how you deny that vaccines help with herd immunity, too
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I've never said either.

The mutations aren't happening because of the vaccine, the mutations are happening randomly anyways; the vaccine just creates environmental pressure which favors those mutations that can better infect vaccinated hosts.

Plants with better protected seeds don't create finches with stronger beaks, the plants merely inadvertently create pressure which favors the birds with stronger beaks.
But you just said, up thread, that it wouldn't happen if people were vaccinated. Which is it? I know you want to tardrage about how science and progress is bad because you're a right-winger and that's what you simps do these days, but you should at least be consistent.

You'd think a biologist would know that the more chances a virus has to gain mutations, the more likely it is to evolve, and you seemed to understand this up thread, but now you're denying it again.
 
You literally were blaming it on the vaccine in the other covid thread. My god, you're such a bullshitter.

And I literally showed you a source, from a health system, about how vaccinations will slow the mutations, but you still tardraged about "population bottleneck" and how those scientists totally don't know about that but you, an uneducated retard who pretends to be a biologist on a shitposting site, does. It's still funny how you deny that vaccines help with herd immunity, too

But you just said, up thread, that it wouldn't happen if people were vaccinated. Which is it? I know you want to tardrage about how science and progress is bad because you're a right-winger and that's what you simps do these days, but you should at least be consistent.

You'd think a biologist would know that the more chances a virus has to gain mutations, the more likely it is to evolve, and you seemed to understand this up thread, but now you're denying it again.
I still can't tell if you're disingenuous and posting in bad-faith, or if you're genuinely retarded; but at this point it doesn't matter because anything I say you will either fail to understand or intentionally distort.
Everyone else here can read what I wrote so why fucking bother?

Eat a dick, HHH.
 
I still can't tell if you're disingenuous and posting in bad-faith, or if you're genuinely retarded; but at this point it doesn't matter because anything I say you will either fail to understand or intentionally distort.
Everyone else here can read what I wrote so why fucking bother?

Eat a dick, HHH.
Lol sure, a guy who doesn't understand how evolution works, math involving percentages, or how vaccines help with herd immunity (and what herd immunity is) is totally a real biologist guyz. Also a tip: don't google shit and paraphrase it because it's really obvious when you do to try and sound like you know what you're talking about

Either you're lying because you're just another assmad right-wing tard on here (likely) or you're Chris Chan level unqualified for your job
 
The mutations aren't happening because of the vaccine, the mutations are happening randomly anyways; the vaccine just creates environmental pressure which favors those mutations that can better infect vaccinated hosts.

Plants with better protected seeds don't create finches with stronger beaks, the plants merely inadvertently create pressure which favors the birds with stronger beaks.
Would the emergence of the black peppered moth in London during the height of the industrial revolution be an analogous scenario? The moths changed their phenotype to turn black to better hide from birds and stuff thanks to the soot from factories as the external pressure, so le coof is doing the same by changing its phenotype in base pairs to become more infectious or whatever from the external pressure of the vaccines? If vaccines are supposedly the main driver, shouldn't this avenue be considered and studied? If this avenue isn't studied, I find it odd cause not too long ago there was the whole talk about antibiotic resistant bacteria and stuff from some Siberian prison and other places making the rounds over the news outlets.
 
And so it begins:

The great re-opening. Otherwise known as the greater-lockdown:



Covid: Masks to remain compulsory on London transport​


Face coverings must be worn on London's transport network despite restrictions easing on 19 July, London's mayor says.

Sadiq Khan said he was not prepared to put Tube, tram and other transport users at risk by relaxing the rules on face coverings.

Face masks have been mandatory on public transport for the past year to reduce the spread of the virus.



See, we are opening up again, freedom day, yay!!!!

Except, and don't think I'm gaslighting you here fam, we just need to keep you muzzled.

I distinctly remember this being stated. This fucking question being asked. It was the main question on everyone's lips. Even if you couldn't see them!

WILL WE HAVE TO STOP WEARING THESE FUCKING STUPID FUCKING MASKS IN SHOPS AND ON PUBLIC TRANSPORT?

Reply: No, of course not, we are not a dictatorship. It is everyone's PERSONAL CHOICE.

my bold.

So, I get it, freedom day comes. But we will still need to have a mask to go in to certain shops that demand it, certain pubs that demand it, certain nightclubs that demand it and public transport that demands it.

Gotcha!


Archive 2, coz BBC keep moving goalposts:




ETA:

It's mask confusion! Sadiq Khan orders face coverings must STAY on London transport after Freedom Day - but Jacob Rees-Mogg says he WON'T wear one in Commons amid fears of a free-for-all​


Masks will remain as a 'condition of carriage' on London Transport after Monday



 
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Would the emergence of the black peppered moth in London during the height of the industrial revolution be an analogous scenario? The moths changed their phenotype to turn black to better hide from birds and stuff thanks to the soot from factories as the external pressure, so le coof is doing the same by changing its phenotype in base pairs to become more infectious or whatever from the external pressure of the vaccines? If vaccines are supposedly the main driver, shouldn't this avenue be considered and studied? If this avenue isn't studied, I find it odd cause not too long ago there was the whole talk about antibiotic resistant bacteria and stuff from some Siberian prison and other places making the rounds over the news outlets.
Yup. The moths are a great example.

What you have to remember is that the dusky/soot-colored moths were always part of the population, but it was such a maladaptive trait when the tree bark was lighter (because the darker ones stood out to predators). So prior to the industrial revolution, the population was overwhelmingly light-gray/tan, because those were the individuals surviving to pass their genes on.
Suddenly all the soot on the trees turns the trees black and who is the better adapted phenotype?

Its similar to the Penicillium-resistant bacteria. Basically Penicillin is derived from a fungal protein (beta-ring) which basically lassos the bacteria and stops them from reproducing.
Well suddenly bacteria started cropping up with a protein that basically work like scissors and cut the fungal/antibiotic lasso protein. The scissor protein was always out there, but humans blasting every bacteria they came across with fungal beta-rings and the only bacteria that survive to reproduce are the ones with the protein that can cut the beta-ring (or other adaptation to nullify the beta-ring. Its become so common that there are multiple modes of deflecting it).

The other thing you have to remember though, is that viruses and bacteria don't need a mate. So while the soot-colored moth, improved-beak finch or the kangaroo rat that just survived a rattlesnake bite all have to hope there is still a mate out there who hasn't been picked off or died of starvation, it only takes 1 individual virus or bacteria to mutate and BAM, resistance is proliferating.
 
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