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Wow, that's wild, and horrifying! Thanks for the update. Yeah, funny how the one and only vag in the thread that we weren't sure was "cis" or "trans" was the one infested with larvae.
this is one of the saddest but funniest things I've ever read on this site. Nothing more affirming than botfly pussy

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I know we post a lot of pics of horror but what about explanations of why we need the horror? This in itself is.....something....
 
this is one of the saddest but funniest things I've ever read on this site. Nothing more affirming than botfly pussy

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I know we post a lot of pics of horror but what about explanations of why we need the horror? This in itself is.....something....
I feel like I "ought" to have a million dollars and "ought" to look like a super model but I don't and I just have to live with that.

I could use a little nip/tuck but I can't pay for it. I wonder if I said I'd kill myself if I didn't get surgery if the government would pay for it?

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@Meiwaku over in Kevthread alerted us to this shitshow of a video:

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I know, I know, this thread is for laughing at awful trans surgeries and the the butchers who perform them, but seeing as how being put on hormone blockers as a child can send you down the fast track to those surgeries and how GnRH drugs are objectively awful for your body on their own I figured I'd xpost here.

Note: They still haven't updated their video description with any citations, saying they'll "organize and post later". What a convenient way to get a bunch of lies into peoples heads before anyone can fact check.
 
Wow, that's wild, and horrifying! Thanks for the update.
Just to confirm that my information is correct, I searched for a font for the video and found it on Youtube lmao (the link, it's age restricted so can't embed + it's just the gross shit we've all seen at this point). Title is "Médico retira larvas da vagina de uma mulher" (TL: Doctor takes larvae out of a woman's vagina"), description also says it's botfly larvae, from 2015.
If you search for videos of botfly removal (usually it's on animals where it gets infested like this, the human ones are generally just one or two larvae) it looks pretty similar too.

I know we post a lot of pics of horror but what about explanations of why we need the horror?
I feel like this one is like, so close to the point but still missing. If they could just actually look at unbiased pics + information on neovags and realize "getting a vagina" is impossible and nothing positive will come of it, they could maybe get it. But of course that only happens after they get their own amhole.

Note: They still haven't updated their video description with any citations, saying they'll "organize and post later".
So bets on the sources only being added like a month later after everyone has already shared the video and added it to the collective understanding as scientific fact only for the sources to be like 4 biased articles without actual research to back it up (or inconclusive)?
 
Yeah, I remember checking the same sex section in some manga forums and it's full of young women saying how they want to be guys because yaoi is so much better than het stuff
And their delusions are very much the inverse of the MtFs who think all female relationships consist of jiggling each other's boobs and having naked pillow fights. Fantasy same-sex relationships based on what the other sex wants. Which is probably fine if you are a 14-year-old reading boylove manga; whatever, fiction doesn't need to be realistic. But now these girls have gotten caught up in a group of people who tell them their immature fantasies can become reality, provided that the evil terves get out of their way and stop invalidating them uwu

Terfs and some other groups ignore it but most women in the internet are just as porn addled as men, it's just instead of pornhub and the usual hentai they prefer yaoi and fanfiction, if you go on AO3 and take a look at the tags you realize these women are completely cumbrained just like men.

It probably is not actually funny, but it does make me laugh just how little attention is paid to these women even when they are growing beards and calling themselves Aiden. Just the attention ratios in the community show how little TRAs actually believe that trans people are their chosen gender. And even terves mostly ignore FtMs, because even though they are clearly fucked up, they just are not aggressive enough to be perceived as a threat.
 
And their delusions are very much the inverse of the MtFs who think all female relationships consist of jiggling each other's boobs and having naked pillow fights. Fantasy same-sex relationships based on what the other sex wants. Which is probably fine if you are a 14-year-old reading boylove manga; whatever, fiction doesn't need to be realistic. But now these girls have gotten caught up in a group of people who tell them their immature fantasies can become reality, provided that the evil terves get out of their way and stop invalidating them uwu



It probably is not actually funny, but it does make me laugh just how little attention is paid to these women even when they are growing beards and calling themselves Aiden. Just the attention ratios in the community show how little TRAs actually believe that trans people are their chosen gender. And even terves mostly ignore FtMs, because even though they are clearly fucked up, they just are not aggressive enough to be perceived as a threat.
The worst thing I've heard FTMs do is bitch on social media about gay men not wanting to fuck a vagina. Meanwhile the internet is plastered with horror stories of MTFs forcing their way into women's spaces, showing their dicks to the women, getting aggressive, etc.

Even if a FTM did that, it'd be treated as an annoyance at worst, and probably just laughed off.
 
So I already had my suspicions, but tried to see some links to confirm, female "agender" surgery is the same procedures as FGM:

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This post on tumblr explains the procedures and talks about where you can possibly get them - notice they keep repeating "ask on the down-low cause no clinic is going to openly admit they do Female Gneital Mutilation". Also notice it's a reblog from a tumblr called "Transgender Teen Survival Guide", classy.

Looking at women interested in it, there's this group on motherless for "Nullo Women" (note: NSFW page) where the FGM procedures seem to definitely be a point of interest:

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(I am 100% there is a bigger group with pictures on Fetlife but don't fancy getting an account there to peruse the stuff)

And finally, a case study on Reddit of an 18 year old gay girl that has already had hysterectomy and posts constantly about wanting genital nullification, with a rich dad willing to pay for any surgeries she wants, UselessAltThing (+archived):

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Seems extreme, however perusing her post history reveals the discomfort with her genitals might have another cause:


Interestingly, she actually admits she is not so happy before retracting and continuing with her posts of wanting to get rid of everything:

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There's also weird posts about wanting to be eyeless or removing her hands so, the people in this thread would have a good time with the account

(note that she posts the same post in a million subs so it's hard to lookj through her posts but it's an interesting look into a girl that barely turned 18 and already getting all kinds of surgeries)
Holy shit, you got me into a rabbit hole with this girl.
I can't believe anyone would approve any kind of surgery for her.

Her repetativeness is beyond autistic levels, and i can't imagine she conducts herself any less obnoxiously in real life.

Just from reading her inane blatherings, even a bystander can see that she has the mental capacity of a preteen. She's got to be a rich kid paying for this shit out of pocket

Edit: oh yeah daddy is paying
 

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So bets on the sources only being added like a month later after everyone has already shared the video and added it to the collective understanding as scientific fact only for the sources to be like 4 biased articles without actual research to back it up (or inconclusive)?
Don't be ridiculous, they're never gonna add sources.

Holy shit, you got me into a rabbit hole with this girl.
I can't believe anyone would approve any kind of surgery for her.

Her repetativeness is beyond autistic levels, and i can't imagine she conducts herself any less obnoxiously in real life.

Just from reading her inane blatherings, even a bystander can see that she has the mental capacity of a preteen. She's got to be a rich kid paying for this shit out of pocket

Edit: oh yeah daddy is paying
The fact her father is paying for her hysterectomy and future nullification surgery instead of her therapy is very telling.
 
Don't be ridiculous, they're never gonna add sources.


The fact her father is paying for her hysterectomy and future nullification surgery instead of her therapy is very telling.
Assuming she’s not a troll, I can sort *understand* why her father gave up on her. Realistically speaking, not everyone can be cured or made to behave somewhat normally. Sometimes you can only let them do their thing and manage symptoms the best you can. People so deeply mentally ill are exhausting to live with.
 
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Assuming she’s not a troll, I can’t sort *understand* why her father gave up on her. Realistically speaking, not everyone can be cured or made to behave somewhat normally. Sometimes you can only let me do their thing and manage symptoms the best you can. People so deeply mentally ill are exhausting to live with.
If this individual is genuine and not a troll, she needs to be put under conservatorship pronto. She is not competent to make decisions about her person or her finances.
 
If this individual is genuine and not a troll, she needs to be put under conservatorship pronto. She is not competent to make decisions about her person or her finances.
Are any trannies competent enough to make these decisions?
Anybody that would consent to these weird, dangerous surgeries is probably very mentally ill. I can't see any situation where a sane person would want this done.
 
Idk how anyone can believe nullo girl is real. It isn't that I don't think humans are that depraved- of course they are- but reddit is just so full of attention seeking "creative writing" projects like this. AITA and justnoMIL are clogged with it. The "my dad is paying for it" part is the giveaway imo, because it's the perfect no-details-necessary answer for "how are you paying for this shit?" It's probably written by some kid who lives at home, hasn't even ever had a job, and the only answer they could think of was "bank of dad." They weren't even clever enough to come up with "trust fund." They're probably like, 14.
 
She actually has already had the hysterectomy. One of the things I appreciate about her posts is how disconnected they are. One minute she is talking about how her hysterectomy is making her feel like she just experienced a tragic loss, despite the fact that she is totally pleased with her decision. One post says "I'm currently crying because I can't masturbate anymore." In the next post she will be defending her decision, saying she has no regrets and that her life is wonderful as she is moving closer to her ideal self. On the one hand, she says she has never wanted anything more than these surgeries and that the day she gets rid of her vagina will be the happiest day of her life, but on the other hand, her posts evidence deep discomfort with existing in general and a palpable immaturity.

Look at her posts about her girlfriend. It is obvious that she has never been in a serious relationship, never mind a hookup. Moreover, she is likely a virgin. Yet despite this lack of experience, she is adamant that her coochie must be sealed up. This desire for the removal of her genitals contrasts with what sounds like possibly a porn addiction. She says that hentai introduced her to the idea of removing her genitals because apparently, some characters look like barbie dolls down there.

This background leads me to two possible reasons for why her mental illness is presenting itself this way. One possible cause is sexual abuse at a young age. Her immaturity and her warped concept of sex hint towards that theory. The other possible cause is premature exposure to pornography, especially fetish porn and hentai. We already know that she is a long-time fan of hentai, even though she recently turned 18. Hentai and fetish porn could have been her first introduction to sex, and so consuming that content could have normalized extreme behaviors.

Irrespective of which experience caused her identity issues, her parents are to blame. They aren't responsible for the mental illness itself, but they certainly did not protect her from consuming inappropriate content when still a minor. I am curious on hearing your guys' take on her condition, assuming she isn't a troll.

Some more info gleaned from her posts, though some has already been mentioned:
  • Her dad has a ton of money
  • She can speak Hebrew and implies she has been able to since childhood
  • She lives in an affluent part of Manhattan, several subways stops away from the Met.
    • My guess is that she lives somewhere on the upper east side

For someone who claims to be born and raised in New York City, her spelling sometimes is so bad that it is laughable. See: "diffishent" and "uteris" (yes, half of the time she can't even spell it :story: ).
Another thing that is annoying is on every post, no matter how irrelevant, she mentions she had a hysterectomy. It is her entire personality. She also is a serial cross-poster attention-whore. I swear she has maybe twenty posts titled "my last post before I get a hysterectomy."
 
She actually has already had the hysterectomy. One of the things I appreciate about her posts is how disconnected they are. One minute she is talking about how her hysterectomy is making her feel like she just experienced a tragic loss, despite the fact that she is totally pleased with her decision. One post says "I'm currently crying because I can't masturbate anymore." In the next post she will be defending her decision, saying she has no regrets and that her life is wonderful as she is moving closer to her ideal self. On the one hand, she says she has never wanted anything more than these surgeries and that the day she gets rid of her vagina will be the happiest day of her life, but on the other hand, her posts evidence deep discomfort with existing in general and a palpable immaturity.

Look at her posts about her girlfriend. It is obvious that she has never been in a serious relationship, never mind a hookup. Moreover, she is likely a virgin. Yet despite this lack of experience, she is adamant that her coochie must be sealed up. This desire for the removal of her genitals contrasts with what sounds like possibly a porn addiction. She says that hentai introduced her to the idea of removing her genitals because apparently, some characters look like barbie dolls down there.

This background leads me to two possible reasons for why her mental illness is presenting itself this way. One possible cause is sexual abuse at a young age. Her immaturity and her warped concept of sex hint towards that theory. The other possible cause is premature exposure to pornography, especially fetish porn and hentai. We already know that she is a long-time fan of hentai, even though she recently turned 18. Hentai and fetish porn could have been her first introduction to sex, and so consuming that content could have normalized extreme behaviors.

Irrespective of which experience caused her identity issues, her parents are to blame. They aren't responsible for the mental illness itself, but they certainly did not protect her from consuming inappropriate content when still a minor. I am curious on hearing your guys' take on her condition, assuming she isn't a troll.

Some more info gleaned from her posts, though some has already been mentioned:
  • Her dad has a ton of money
  • She can speak Hebrew and implies she has been able to since childhood
  • She lives in an affluent part of Manhattan, several subways stops away from the Met.
    • My guess is that she lives somewhere on the upper east side

For someone who claims to be born and raised in New York City, her spelling sometimes is so bad that it is laughable. See: "diffishent" and "uteris" (yes, half of the time she can't even spell it :story: ).
Another thing that is annoying is on every post, no matter how irrelevant, she mentions she had a hysterectomy. It is her entire personality. She also is a serial cross-poster attention-whore. I swear she has maybe twenty posts titled "my last post before I get a hysterectomy."
When she says hysterectomy, I'm assuming they didn't leave an ovary for hormone balance because of A) how fucked it is to perform a hysterectomy on a healthy 18 year old, and B) Her rich-ass father is paying for it. Lack of hormonal output from gonads (along with being psychotic) would give you those intense mood swings. (edit because I'm always tired and retarded the simple answer is she fucking surgically forced herself into menopause at 18 years old.)

The fact that anyone, let alone her own father would think this needs anything other than intense psychotherapy and a possible good beating of any adult male who had been close to her between the ages of 4-8 (cause it sure fucking sounds to me like she got touched) is absolutely repulsive and he should be tied to a tree and stoned to death in Skyrim.
 
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>i want a girl to remove my eyes and cut off my limbs, and other sexy stuff
:cryblood: She needs therapy, not a hysterectomy. I hope her dad at least tried that route before settling for the hysterectomy (provided this isn’t a troll).
 
The "my dad is paying for it" part is the giveaway imo
The thing is, if we go by the story of her being just 18 and everything else, it would make sense for that to be the reason. She is leaving in that state of prolonmged infancy, probably still living with the parents and never having a job, parents probably give her allowence/a credit card for her stuff and the more expensive stuff she just asks just like a child/teenager would. The whole "my father found a doctor" implies she was not even the one talking to doctors, she just went to talk to her dad "I want to get rid of my genitals!" and he wasm like "ok, whatever you want dear".

Which to me would imply she is an incredibly sheltered rich kid raised by the internet/4chan that has been spoiled rotten by some libshit parents that clearly don't know how to say no to anything she wants.

Of course, it could easily be a creative writer. It would have to be a very dedicated one because she has been posting for 8 months almost everyday multiple times.

She apparently "came out" as agender at 13. I agree that it's kinda funny that she simutaneously talks about getting rid of every sex organ and yet complains about people deseaxulizing her when she talks about that want, and also interesting that she seems to have the BIID as a paraphilia comorbidity to trans.

Speaking of BIID, does anyone know where the pages of advocacy for it and blogs and stuff went? I remember back in 2005 or something there were a ton of pages. I specially want to find the blog of the woman that wanted to have MS because that was some prime lunacy, can't believe it could be gone from the net with no archives. Unfortunately I've only managed to find the transabled.org page, which links to the BIID-info one that has a few blogs, but none of those smeem to be my girl. Also some dude wrote a thesis about it in May lmao
 
The thing is, if we go by the story of her being just 18 and everything else, it would make sense for that to be the reason. She is leaving in that state of prolonmged infancy, probably still living with the parents and never having a job, parents probably give her allowence/a credit card for her stuff and the more expensive stuff she just asks just like a child/teenager would. The whole "my father found a doctor" implies she was not even the one talking to doctors, she just went to talk to her dad "I want to get rid of my genitals!" and he wasm like "ok, whatever you want dear".

Which to me would imply she is an incredibly sheltered rich kid raised by the internet/4chan that has been spoiled rotten by some libshit parents that clearly don't know how to say no to anything she wants.

Of course, it could easily be a creative writer. It would have to be a very dedicated one because she has been posting for 8 months almost everyday multiple times.

She apparently "came out" as agender at 13. I agree that it's kinda funny that she simutaneously talks about getting rid of every sex organ and yet complains about people deseaxulizing her when she talks about that want, and also interesting that she seems to have the BIID as a paraphilia comorbidity to trans.

Speaking of BIID, does anyone know where the pages of advocacy for it and blogs and stuff went? I remember back in 2005 or something there were a ton of pages. I specially want to find the blog of the woman that wanted to have MS because that was some prime lunacy, can't believe it could be gone from the net with no archives. Unfortunately I've only managed to find the transabled.org page, which links to the BIID-info one that has a few blogs, but none of those smeem to be my girl. Also some dude wrote a thesis about it in May lmao

Only 8 months? Elaborate munchie internet hoaxes have gone on for years before, even with no commercial gain. And appearing out of nowhere at 18? An 18 year old who is into this very, very specific and identifiably extreme shit and "came out as agender" at 13, but who doesn't have a long obvious internet history (and a thread here tbh lol) after 5 years of being gender and body obsessed? Someone who was good at keeping anonymous and not attention whoring that whole entire time (at least to the extent that nobody has connected her reddit to any other internet personality), and yet now suddenly feels the need to post to reddit daily? Reddit, the text-heavy platform where anonymity is encouraged, unlike Tumblr or places where a lack of selfies would stand out more when talking about gender and body mod stuff? Yeah this all just makes it sound even faker.
I'll stop sperging on this bc I don't think I'm going to change anyone's mind, but nothing about it sounds like the way people share their actual weird personal stuff online. It totally has the tone and timing of someone spinning an invented cancer/anorexia/ongoing drama saga they made up one night, which ended up garnering them more attention than they expected, so now they made a little hobby out of it.
 
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