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why do they want to fuck lesbians to bad, can't they just understand that we wont accept it and like accept that theyll have to go for bisexuals or something instead

You do know that you're his last hope. Although if he had any real friends (or even decent internet ones) they would have told him that learning to not be a pathetic whiner would boost his chances of hooking up with someone a lot more than trooning out. Even this thread has the occasional decent dating tip.
 
ego stroking.
to the autistic tranny mind, lesbians are the womanliest women to ever woman, the ultimate arbiters of womanhood, so being accepted as a woman by lesbians is the ultimate success, the final validation, the unquestionable proof that trans women are indeed true and honest women.

I also think to the autistic tranny mind, just like women’s restrooms and dressing rooms are zones free of any possible normal male interference with their degeneracy, lesbian lives in general are also zones free of male competition. They are failed males, incels who have never been desirable to women. So, being autists who do not understand other minds, they think well, if I just become a woman, I will no longer have to compete with other males, and as a male the female I become will be a superior female who can easily win out over actual females, whether it’s sports or hooking up with lesbians.

They invent this and nourish the delusion in one another and so just like incels on their boards invent ideas about women to get mad about, they then get mad about this scenario they created that no actual lesbian ever agreed to support.
 
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Don't know if this was posted but why is there literal CHADS transitioning? This makes no sense, I can understand when it's an skinny short 19 year old with negative self-esteem or some shit, but why? He looks fine as a man, now he's looks laughable.
 
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Don't know if this was posted but why is there literal CHADS transitioning? This makes no sense, I can understand when it's an skinny short 19 year old with negative self-esteem or some shit, but why? He looks fine as a man, now he's looks laughable.
The state of the body has no bearing on the delusions of the mind. I could go into any gym in America and find a half dozen men and women who, by any metric are incredibly fit who think that their bodies aren’t thin or muscular or athletic enough. Some people never get over their insecurities, he’s just chasing a different dragon now.
 
This is why “lesbian” troons should always be written off as incels. “You have to be ok with us having a penis” no they don’t dude, no they don’t.
if 'trans women are women' was true then they should have no issue just hooking up with each other to get a lesbian (actually gay) girlfriend (actually boyfriend)
their refusal to do this, and their insistence on aggressively pursuing 'cis' (normal) lesbians, expose the whole "trans women are women" shit as a lie that not even trannies themselves really believe
 
if 'trans women are women' was true then they should have no issue just hooking up with each other to get a lesbian (actually gay) girlfriend (actually boyfriend)
their refusal to do this, and their insistence on aggressively pursuing 'cis' (normal) lesbians, expose the whole "trans women are women" shit as a lie that not even trannies themselves really believe
Sometimes I wonder if they ever pick up on the cognitive dissonance.
 
I also think to the autistic tranny mind, just like women’s restrooms and dressing rooms are zones free of any possible normal male interference with their degeneracy, lesbian lives in general are also zones free of male competition. They are failed males, incels who have never been desirable to women. So, being autists who do not understand other minds, they think well, if I just become a woman, I will no longer have to compete with other males, and as a male the female I become will be a superior female who can easily win out over actual females, whether it’s sports or hooking up with lesbians.

They invent this and nourish the delusion in one another and so just like incels on their boards invent ideas about women to get mad about, they then get mad about this scenario they created that no actual lesbian ever agree to support.
Total armchair psychoanalysis here, but I wonder if it isn't tied in with a sort of madonna-whore complex. As you mentioned, we know many of these autists are incels (whether having openly identified themselves as such or just by definition), and we know that incels have a bizarre preoccupation with female virginity (defloration fetish, reee roasties etc etc). It's also widely understood that most men don't consider lesbian sex equal to PIV/"real" sex. So I wonder if, for a lot of straight trannies, the lesbian fetish is directly associated with virginity fetish and viewing women who have sex with normal men to be tainted and unworthy.

There've been many instances in this thread of trannies bemoaning the fact that sure, bisexual women have shown interest in them, but this isn't "validating" enough. I'm sure I've seen posts by trannies about viewing their bisexual female partner as lesser than a lesbian partner because she's had sex with men in the past (though obviously they frame this in the language of their subculture by talking about how it effects their sense of identity or whatever horseshit). Lesbianism is also somewhat ideologically glorified (though with the major caveat that you cant mention the fact that genuine lesbians won't fuck troons) and considered a desireable identity as previously mentioned, whereas straight women are considered boring/basic/cringe in woque spaces, which lends credence to the idea of a madonna/whore split with how trannies conceive of female sexual orientation.
Sorry for typing up a manifesto for basically "troons retarded lol", I'm just fascinated by the philosophical implications of this whole phenomenon. Please excuse me if this is better suited in the disussion thread.
 
The location of attraction for AGPs is internal, not external. Everyone is a prop for fulfilling their fetish. They aren't attracted to lesbians, they are attracted to the idea of themselves as a lesbian so the ultimate coom is when the external fulfills the internal fantasy.

They don't have normal attraction so it's easier to understand them as seeing humans are props not sexual partners helping them fulfill the fantasy that consumed them.
 
Total armchair psychoanalysis here, but I wonder if it isn't tied in with a sort of madonna-whore complex. As you mentioned, we know many of these autists are incels (whether having openly identified themselves as such or just by definition), and we know that incels have a bizarre preoccupation with female virginity (defloration fetish, reee roasties etc etc). It's also widely understood that most men don't consider lesbian sex equal to PIV/"real" sex. So I wonder if, for a lot of straight trannies, the lesbian fetish is directly associated with virginity fetish and viewing women who have sex with normal men to be tainted and unworthy.

Honestly this energy is too deeply male for me to grok but it makes a lot of sense, and I look forward to some evil cishet males evaluating it.
 
The location of attraction for AGPs is internal, not external. Everyone is a prop for fulfilling their fetish. They aren't attracted to lesbians, they are attracted to the idea of themselves as a lesbian so the ultimate coom is when the external fulfills the internal fantasy.

They don't have normal attraction so it's easier to understand them as seeing humans are props not sexual partners helping them fulfill the fantasy that consumed them.
I don’t think the majority of internet troons are true AGPs. It’s a mixture of autism, inceldom, and for some of them, internalized biphobia. On the latter, they see lesbian relationships as more pure than male/male ones, so they want to be a ‘lesbian’ so they can date other ‘trans lesbians’ as a way of dating men. There’s a sufficiently high number of MTFs who date other MTFs that I believe in this, and I do not think it’s all GAMP pseudobisexuality deriving from AGP.
 
I don’t think the majority of internet troons are true AGPs. It’s a mixture of autism, inceldom, and for some of them, internalized biphobia. On the latter, they see lesbian relationships as more pure than male/male ones, so they want to be a ‘lesbian’ so they can date other ‘trans lesbians’ as a way of dating men. There’s a sufficiently high number of MTFs who date other MTFs that I believe in this, and I do not think it’s all GAMP pseudobisexuality deriving from AGP.
I think you're being too kind.

A lot of the T4T AGP types is linked to their fetish for watching women being fucked - which because they're autistic they can't visualize right without a penis being present. A lot also have more focus directly on rape such as Kevin Gibes. Its a lot darker and set up in their mental perceptions.

EDIT: This really does only refer to dudes who make the move to transition. Dudes who don't even bother and just say they're a tranny online but don't do anything socially etc are a different species entirely. I also really don't know enough about FTM to get a good guess at what goes on there.
 
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Don't know if this was posted but why is there literal CHADS transitioning? This makes no sense, I can understand when it's an skinny short 19 year old with negative self-esteem or some shit, but why? He looks fine as a man, now he's looks laughable.
Everybody can transition, the question is more: WHY is he asking for validation seconds after doing 100 push ups ? Getting those arm muscles to pop is pretty much the opposite of what you should do while trying to pass as female.

I suspect a faker taking the piss at troons. He is looking dead-on at the camera, smirking so we can see his lantern jaw better, instead of playing the angles like they usually do.
This looks like a Pocahontas party wig and those are muscles that you don't get by questioning your gender.
 
I think you're being too kind.

A lot of the T4T AGP types is linked to their fetish for watching women being fucked - which because they're autistic they can't visualize right without a penis being present. A lot also have more focus directly on rape such as Kevin Gibes. Its a lot darker and set up in their mental perceptions.
You are right.
I don’t know, I just see all these depressed autistic guys who are basically being lured into being trans by the internet, and I feel bad for them in a way I don’t for the middle aged ex military hon.
 
The location of attraction for AGPs is internal, not external. Everyone is a prop for fulfilling their fetish. They aren't attracted to lesbians, they are attracted to the idea of themselves as a lesbian so the ultimate coom is when the external fulfills the internal fantasy.

They don't have normal attraction so it's easier to understand them as seeing humans are props not sexual partners helping them fulfill the fantasy that consumed them.
This is either exactly or approximately correct. It's hard to tell which, because it's hard to enter the headspace of these people. Suffice to say, I've seen previously gay or gay-leaning bisexuals come out as strictly "lesbian" after they begin their transition. To me, that says that all of their attraction is intrinsic rather than extrinsic - like you said. AGP's pursue sexuality to validate delusions that they've taught themselves. It's not enough for them to attract male attention, nor the attention of bisexual women, because there's some possibility there that they're attracted to their male characteristics, and they don't epitomize the corrupted idea of femininity they desire besides. Lesbians, because they're exclusively interested in women, offer them the greatest achievable validation: "If a lesbian has sex with me, that means I'm a woman by way of simple tautology." Again, I'm not a trained psychologist, but I'm getting better and better at clocking borderline personalities by unlucky exposure to them. An AGP only values any partner in terms of the way that they can make them feel about themselves. They may value that immensely, but fundamentally, their attraction to a sexual partner is secondary. That being said, I think I'm describing a more specific phenomenon than the average autistic, graduated incel "transbian" MTF.
 
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