Doctors are telling trans women they have to wear lipstick and feminine clothing to receive medical care, UK lawmakers say - UK Based?

Doctors are telling trans women they have to wear lipstick and feminine clothing to receive medical care, UK lawmakers say

UK politicians raised the issue as an example of medical transphobia during a discussion on reforming the Gender Recognition Act.

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• Some doctors in the UK are telling transgender women to wear lipstick and wear more "feminine" clothes, UK parliament heard.
• Trans women have been told they should look a certain way to prove their gender identity and access medical care.
• British Members of Parliament heard testimony on this issue as they discussed the Gender Recognition Act (GRA).
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Some UK doctors are asking trans women to wear more lipstick and "feminine" clothing in order to prove their gender, reported the Telegraph.

British Members of Parliament heard testimony on the issue as an example of medical transphobia during a discussion on reforming the Gender Recognition Act (GRA) on May 13. According to Equal Recognition Scotland, the act currently requires a trans person to submit a detailed account of their gender dysphoria in order to access medical care.

Dr. Harriet Hutchinson, an organizer at Action for Trans Health Durham, told lawmakers at a virtual hearing that the definition of gender dysphoria laid out in the GRA is rigid and forces trans people to adhere to firm gender stereotypes around femininity and masculinity in order to attain necessary medical care.

Hutchinson told a parliamentary select committee cisgender doctors enforce these guidelines by interrogating trans women about their gender presentation, particularly scrutinizing the patients for not wearing makeup or dresses to medical appointments.

"So the idea of having to prove your gender is very reductive and forces trans people to conform to stereotypes in order to receive a diagnosis and then, of course, receive criticism for perpetuating gender stereotypes," Hutchinson said.

Activists and trans rights organizations are calling for the act to be reformed with more inclusive definitions around gender dysphoria.

 

[W00K #17]

I understand that you fully dislike the idea of the only real treatment for gender dysphoria (if you even believe in that) being to transition, but that does not seem to be the reality of it.

I forgot that this was A&H, the retard pit of the website.

You seem really sensitive. Stop being so sensitive.

It's fucking gay as fuck.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Part of me wants them to say "Fuck it, you look like John Goodman and you want a GRS? Here."

Give the GRS to all the perverts and psychotics and see how that goes.

Aim for ten thousand cock chops a week, all on the government dime.

Drop your daughter off at high school in the morning and pick her up in the afternoon and she's had her tits off without telling you and now she's a he.

If we're going to do this, let's get it over with.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

• Some doctors in the UK are telling transgender women to wear lipstick and wear more "feminine" clothes, UK parliament heard.

Fuck, we can't even get real women to do this anymore, good luck getting some gorilla in a yarn wig to do that.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

This actually sucks ass,

Being forced to uphold certain standards must be terrible. Perhaps we can hold a benefit concert for them with shitty has-been bands.

you're forcing people who by all intents and purposes, are male,

They're male by your definition, not female. Cased closed.

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and telling them "Make a fool of yourself in front of everyone or else you wont get this stuff"

"Commit to it/Work at it or you can't have it" is what every spoiled child should hear.

Awww... do the poor troons now have to actually walk the walk rather than talk the talk?

before they even have a chance to look somewhat feminine

Which they never will.

(>inb4 hurr durr never will pass).

They pass as a woman less than a fish market does to a blind man.

Also situations just don't always allow for people to socially transition.

Tough titty said the mother to the kitty. Things are fucking tough all over.

If you're privileged and pampered enough to start worrying about MUH GANDUR! then you can face a little hardship in your life and commit to something.

Britain is just straight shit when it comes to trans people,

Compared to where? Uganda?

fires people for using the wrong pronouns, but gives you a 7 year waiting list to get your name changed (that's not a joke, I have personally heard of that actually happening)

I've heard of people getting anal probed by aliens wearing Obama and Biden masks, doesn't mean that shit is any realer than gender.

and under doses people even when they are able to be put on estrogen/anti-androgen and testosterone.

Fucking. Wah.

You know what really shows to me between this rant and the hysterical sobbing of the internet troons? It shows how little they fucking know.

It USED to be that this was the fucking standard. You had to socially BE a woman before they'd even consider hormones or anything else, to prevent a mid-life crisis or puberty anxiety from ruining someone's life with unnecessary medical procedures and to prevent bog-standard AGP's from sucking up everyone time and resources.

We NEED to go back to this standard. Force them to live as a woman or shut the fuck up instead of requiring zero fucking effort from some of the most thin skinned and entitled humans to walk the earth.

 

[queue-anon]

This actually sucks ass, you're forcing people who by all intents and purposes, are male, and telling them "Make a fool of yourself in front of everyone or else you wont get this stuff" before they even have a chance to look somewhat feminine (>inb4 hurr durr never will pass). Also situations just don't always allow for people to socially transition. Britain is just straight shit when it comes to trans people, fires people for using the wrong pronouns, but gives you a 7 year waiting list to get your name changed (that's not a joke, I have personally heard of that actually happening) and under doses people even when they are able to be put on estrogen/anti-androgen and testosterone.

Someone's lying to you. Name changes are extremely easy in the UK.

And, yes, they have to make fools of themselves publicly so they don't make irreversible changes *before* realizing what it feels like to go outside looking like a freakshow.

Also, nothing's stopping trannies from skipping the line by going to Thailand. If they want taxpayers to foot the bill, they have to do what the doctors say.

 

[Bec]

This coming from the most masculine society Earth has ever known.
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Pretty sure those fashion trends started in France but close enough.

 

[Kenya Jones]

This circlejerk is why people laugh at A&H. I might be a fruit, but you're all vegetables.

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

This coming from the most masculine society Earth has ever known.
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You mean...like the Earl of Doncaster?

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

I understand that you fully dislike the idea of the only real treatment for gender dysphoria (if you even believe in that) being to transition, but that does not seem to be the reality of it.

That's like saying the only real treatment for someone who believes he's Napoleon Bonaparte is to call him "Mon Emperor."

First, for gender dysphoria, it used to be that you'd see a psychologist first, and they'd determine if you needed to transition, or if you were just confused and needed a few sessions with them.

Second, there needs to be a standard for transitioning. One of the reasons faggots like Yaniv are able to hide behind the trans identity is precisely because there are no standards, medical or otherwise, for transitioning. You just need to claim you're one sex or the other, and you're accepted as such without question.

 

[Clem Fandango]

They still shouldn't get it to be honest.

Not on the fucking NHS at the very least. They can pay for it privately if they want, I don't want my tax money going to some filthy degenerate.

 

[byuu]

forces trans people to adhere to firm gender stereotypes around femininity and masculinity in order to attain necessary medical care.

Why are drugs and surgeries to make you look more like a woman vital medical care but clothing and makeup that makes you look more like a woman are evil patriarchal gender stereotypes?

 

[LurkTrawl]

They should have to take a blood test to check their chromosomes then be told "lol, you're a man m80".

I forgot that this was A&H, the retard pit of the website.

You know what's retarded? Walking around wanting to be called (and treated like) a woman and not even putting in the effort to look like one.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

"So the idea of having to prove your gender is very reductive and forces trans people to conform to stereotypes in order to receive a diagnosis and then, of course, receive criticism for perpetuating gender stereotypes," Hutchinson said.

The entire fucking idea of trannies is reduction of femininity to stereotypes to justify fetishes/become a privileged class. It's just doctors going against the latter.

 

[Eternal Gopnik]

10 bucks says this never actually happened. Trannies keep coming up with the most outlandish stories to justify their disgusting fetishes and paint themselves as victims.

The treatment for troondom is antipsychotic meds. If that doesn't help, lobotomy.

 

[JamusActimus]

It reminds me of the gastric bypass surgery Wing did.
He had to lose x amount of weight to be eligible in a us clinic but he choose the easy way out and went to mexico.

If you want to do GRS you should but some effort.

+the health care pays a certain part of the mutilation so they should filter people

 

[Miller]

I hope one day there will be a serious discussion in the medical field because this recent rise of people who think they're trannies is really weird and creepy, especially when it leads to suicides (before or after the surgery). These so-called experts are making them believe that they can "fix" who they are by changing the chemical balance in their brain and by removing an important part of their body. It's inhuman.
I know we're here to shitpost but the whole thing makes me sick. There's nothing stunning or brave in fucking up someone's mind butchering his/her sexual organs.

the only real treatment for gender dysphoria (if you even believe in that) being to transition

I wouldn't call it a treatment, given the insane amount of suicides after transition.

 

[axfaxf]

I wouldn't call it a treatment, given the insane amount of suicides after transition.

Are you suggesting, it´s some kind of natural selection/Solution?

 

[OrionBalls]

I don't understand why they have to wear feminine clothes and makeup in order to ruin their bodies and lives. Women don't always dress feminine or wear makeup. Just let the idiots (adult idiots) get the chop.

 

[Coldgrip]

This circlejerk is why people laugh at A&H. I might be a fruit, but you're all vegetables.

lol fag

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I understand that you fully dislike the idea of the only real treatment for gender dysphoria (if you even believe in that) being to transition, but that does not seem to be the reality of it.

"The only real treatment for gender dysphoria is to mutilate your body and create an uncanny and inert facsimile of the gonads of the sex you think you are while also taking drugs that increase your risk of osteoporosis and cancer. Do not pay attention to how nothing changes if everyone isn't affirming the delusion except for the reality that the subject has ordered upon themselves mutilation for no actual gain, and also ignore that these subjects still have to learn to actually be the sex that they claim they are "on the inside" because they went through none of the formative experiences or socialization that they would have if they actually were."

Take a long walk off a short pier with one of MundaneMatt's boulders.